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Old 11-28-2012, 09:25 PM   #421
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Does the 1/2" lift on the 10th Anniversary edition Rubicon change this much? When coupled with the stubby bumpers?

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Old 11-28-2012, 10:05 PM   #422
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Order has been placed, for better or worse here's what's on the way for my Jeep:

Cepek Torque Rim in Black
17" diameter, 5" backspacing

ProComp Xtreme A/T LT
305/65R17
32.8"x12.2"

No lifters or spacers, they're going on my stock JK. I'm gonna post a pic once I have them on, provided that they do fit! Fingers crossed, but i think they're gonna be fine...
Will this fail?

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it will probably roll straight. and rub at lock. but it will rip the fenders off if you get off camber even a little
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What do you mean "rub at lock"?
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What do you mean "rub at lock"?
That means it will rub when the wheels are turned fully to the left or right.
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ah thx for the info lee and diesel. gonna post my experience with this setup after ive tested it out. i'd feel pretty dumb if i wound up ripping off a fender haha - i have friends that would NEVER let me live that down
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:18 PM   #427
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After searching this thread and site, I think this will work in my stage 1 form, but do you all think it will work for my stage 2 build? Will there be rubbing with a stock JKU Rubicon?

Stage 1:
ATX Artillery wheels 17x9 inch with 285/70-17 GY Duratrac's
No Lift

Stage 2:
Add AEV Front and Rear Bumpers with tire carrier potentially with a winch
No lift (unless I need to make the wheels/tires fit)

Thanks in advance!
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:17 PM   #428
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Hey guys,

I am thinking of replacing my tires. I have the stock 255/70/18 Duelers on my 2012 Unlimited. What are the tallest mud tires I could get without any rubbing? I don't want to deal with a lift or spacers and wanted to keep the stock wheels just add some meatier tires. Anyone do this and have some pics!? Sorry in advance if this question has been asked already.

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Old 12-01-2012, 01:46 PM   #429
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Hey guys,

I am thinking of replacing my tires. I have the stock 255/70/18 Duelers on my 2012 Unlimited. What are the tallest mud tires I could get without any rubbing? I don't want to deal with a lift or spacers and wanted to keep the stock wheels just add some meatier tires. Anyone do this and have some pics!? Sorry in advance if this question has been asked already.

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It's answered right in the first post, which says:

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The largest tire you can fit without a chance of problems on road is a 33x10 tire (also called a “pizza cutter”). . . . .

Now, let’s consider some tires that could potentially cause slight issues on road; the 33x11s. The common sizes of these would be 285/75/16, 285/70/17, and 275/70/18.

The 275/70/18 measures slightly under 11” wide, while the other two measure a little over. Many folks have reported running these sizes without issue. However, others have experienced contact with the airdam or front suspension components. Simple fixes are to add washers to the steering stops, trim the airdam, or install wheel spacers.

Any tire larger than 11” in width, you are almost guaranteed to have to do one of the above mentioned mods.
Make sure you go back and read the first post carefully. It's designed to answer all of the basic questions surrounding this issue, and most find it very helpful.
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After searching this thread and site, I think this will work in my stage 1 form, but do you all think it will work for my stage 2 build? Will there be rubbing with a stock JKU Rubicon?

Stage 1:
ATX Artillery wheels 17x9 inch with 285/70-17 GY Duratrac's
No Lift

I had these installed today and no rubbing for on road yet. Seems like it should have acceptable on road clearance. Will report back after it sees some dirt.
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Anyone have pics of what aftermarket tires they're running on the stock 18's? I'm looking into this scenario.
Thanks!
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This may seem a little off topic, but I saw a tire that I like but it requires a 16.5 wheel would there be an issue later. I don't remember the specific size
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ah thx for the info lee and diesel. gonna post my experience with this setup after ive tested it out. i'd feel pretty dumb if i wound up ripping off a fender haha - i have friends that would NEVER let me live that down
I ended up with Goodrich All-Terrain TA KO's, 285/70R17's, they are 11.2" wide, and 32.7" in diameter - after reading the responses I settled on a reduced width. I put them on aftermarket 17" rims with 5" backspacing, no lift or spacers on the Jeep. Was originally gonna go with 305/65R17's, and I am glad I didn't! All I can say is, THANK GOD FOR THIS THREAD! I have 2 words for the wheels I ended up with:

Fargin perfect
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:06 AM   #434
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5 in back spacing with the 285 70 17 is my favorite combo too. i like how my tires are still 90% under my fenders. i dont even rub front or rear fully stuffed.





2in lift tho. with out the lift i rubbed a very little when discoed.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:16 AM   #435
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5 in back spacing with the 285 70 17 is my favorite combo too. i like how my tires are still 90% under my fenders. i dont even rub front or rear fully stuffed.

2in lift tho. with out the lift i rubbed a very little when discoed.
Those look great, I think I'm sold. The wheels I want have 4.75" backspacing, but I couldn't decode between a 285/70r17 or a 12.5" wide.

I was worried the 285s would look weird with that backspacing, but I think.I actually prefer you're look to the 12.5"
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:26 AM   #436
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i dont play in the mud. to much work cleaning especially georgia clay. so the extra flotation isnt needed. and i went with these cooper atps due to there lighter weight.
compare them to the falkens in the same size. im currently averaging 17.3 mpg over 10k miles and alot alot of offroading. the other disadvantage of the wider tire is increased rolling resistance.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:39 AM   #437
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i dont play in the mud. to much work cleaning especially georgia clay. so the extra flotation isnt needed. and i went with these cooper atps due to there lighter weight.
compare them to the falkens in the same size. im currently averaging 17.3 mpg over 10k miles and alot alot of offroading. the other disadvantage of the wider tire is increased rolling resistance.
Exactly. My JKU is my DD, and I drive at least 65 miles a day. The extra rolling distance of the 12.5s was my major strike against them.

The ATPs are actually the tire I've been eyeing. Coopers get rated very well, and they are actually still made here in the states. Have you been pretty happy with them?

Also, were you running the stock tires before the ATPs? if so what were you averaging then? I'm at 2500 miles on the stock 255/75r17 GYs and averaging 19.5-20mpg mpg.
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i never ran the stock tires on this jeep. i had them on my old sport before i upgraded and it wasnt lifted at all. on that motor with 3.73s i was getting about the same.

as far as the coopers go i couldnt be happier. for what they are they are fantastic. really quite on the road and great off road until you hit any type of clay.

you will loose some mileage. the stock goodyears are 36 lbs each.
heres my initial thread.
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i never ran the stock tires on this jeep. i had them on my old sport before i upgraded and it wasnt lifted at all. on that motor with 3.73s i was getting about the same.

as far as the coopers go i couldnt be happier. for what they are they are fantastic. really quite on the road and great off road until you hit any type of clay.

you will loose some mileage. the stock goodyears are 36 lbs each.
heres my initial thread.
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Thanks for the write up.

I do expect to lose some mpg, but I figured I would lose much more if I went with the Cooper STT or GY duratrac. (I really didnt want to go the GY route with all the balancing and out of round issues Ive read about).

I'm glad to hear you like the ATPs, it puts my mind at ease a little. I need a tire that is great for the road and all weather conditions. I live and work in the Lake Erie snow belt, so from what I understand, a MT is really out of the question as I need a tire that will do well in the snow and slush.
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Hi everyone. I have been reading through several pages and have a few questions. I mainly just need some help because I dont understand all the terms. I am a first time jeep owner and just need a little help and advice:

I have a 2012 2 dr Rubicon with stock 17 inch tires. They are 255/75x17.

Now, I would like to be able to do some off-roading...mainly like on the deer lease and some trails here and there but i'm not going to be a hardcore off roader.

Now, I have read that there isnt a lot of choices out there for 17 inch rims. Im not really happy with the 17inch aluminum rims that I have on there but I do like the new 17 inch rims on the 2013 rubicons. Has anyone ventured down to the 16 inch rims for more choices?

And if I stick with the 17 inch rims, would the 285/70 actually require the spacers for what I plan on doing? I have the stock bumpers and fenders still.

Thanks for all the help and sorry if I am trouble
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I have a 2012 2 dr Rubicon with stock 17 inch tires. They are 255/75x17.

Now, I would like to be able to do some off-roading...mainly like on the deer lease and some trails here and there but i'm not going to be a hardcore off roader.
You will be able to do ample offroading with your stock tires--they are a good mud terrain. If your goal is to "do some offroading," nothing further is required.
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I would like something that looks a little "meaner"
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you can swap the rim out. and who ever said there isnt any 17s on the market is an idiot. walk into a discount tire and youll find 100+ choices.

if you just go to an after market rim with 4-5 in back spacing the jeep will sit a bit wider and youll like it better. or sell the rubicon setup on CL and get a full set of rims and tires.
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Thanks. I was wanting some new rims but the mountain edition gun metal on the new rubicons look pretty badass also.

But... from what I grasp-

the 285/70/17 duratec on with spacers should give me little to no trouble with driving around town and minor off roading. Im not going rock climbing but how much trouble "is minor" when it comes to offroading

I want to be able to drive up in Colorado when hunting without any worry. But that wont be for a while. I guess that in the meantime I could buy the new rims and tires and get the lift before I actually do go hunting
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the pictures above are 285 70 17s on 5 in back spacing. spacers will make it ride about like that. no rubbing zero problems that ive encounterd
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I see that you had the lift. I'll be honest...I wont put my jeep through that for a while...if ever lol.

But without the lift, just travelling along roads like the red jeep in the photo, you had no troubles?

Thanks for your answers. I have read through a lot on here and still a little puzzled.

What year is your Rubicon?
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i ran these on an unlifted sport and only rubbed when i disconnected the front sway bar even then it was minimal. the rubicon is lifted 2 in but now it doesnt rub off road disconnected.

on a factory rig i ran the 285s with no problem.
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thanks for the help. I am going to get the 17 inch rims I want first and then get the tires. I will do mostly road driving and light off-roading so I doubt the sway bar will be disconnected. Ill get a lift after a while and fix all the rubbing issues all together.

Does a Rubicon sit any higher than a sport?
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Ok so I'm new to the jeep world... Got a 07 jk 4 door unlimited x.. And u want some bigger tires since I'm due for new ones. I am raised 2inches also with what looks to be stock tires 245/75/16.. I'm looking at 285/75/16.. From what I read, I shouldn't have hardly any clearance issues... Correct? Doing the washer on steer stop don't bother me.. But with a 2inches lift, think there would be fitment issues? also I ram on stock rims. Any help would he great, thanks guys

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