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Old 10-15-2013, 09:41 PM   #841
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2008 Unlimited X- 255/70/18

I have a 2008 Wrangler Unlimited X. A friend took his stock 225/70/18 (32" x 10") Bridgestone tires off his 2013 Sahara and offered them to me. I put them on and checked for rubbing but I couldn't see anything noticeable. When I turn hard right I hear a light rubbing sound from what appears to be coming from the Front Right passenger side tire.

I was wondering if an alignment may solve this problem because from everything I have read the tires/wheels themselves should fit without a lift (at least I Hope..)

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Old 10-15-2013, 09:50 PM   #842
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I have a 2008 Wrangler Unlimited X. A friend took his stock 225/70/18 (32" x 10") Bridgestone tires off his 2013 Sahara and offered them to me. I put them on and checked for rubbing but I couldn't see anything noticeable. When I turn hard right I hear a light rubbing sound from what appears to be coming from the Front Right passenger side tire.

I was wondering if an alignment may solve this problem because from everything I have read the tires/wheels themselves should fit without a lift (at least I Hope..)

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Old 10-16-2013, 09:45 AM   #843
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So....I studied and researched this topic of 33's on a stock JK. This thread, by far, was the most informative and when I walked into Discount Tire the other day I felt like I knew my sh## and was going to be able to tell them what I needed for my stock 2012 JK sport....wrong!! I told them I wanted to run Falken 285/75/R16's on a black 16X8 wheel that has to be 4.5" or less back spacing. They told me they figure the back spacing differently and assured me the wheels they ordered would work fine . But now I'm nervous about it. The wheels I ordered are Level 8 Tracker 16 X 8.5 5-127 -6MTB. What in the heck do all those numbers after the 5 (which I get as the bolt pattern) mean? Will these work without modifications? I've owned Jeeps for quite some time but I'm a rookie at going beyond stock.....and I'm a girl....
I'm doing this same research and have found some really good rim info.
https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html

This page explains the difference between backspace & offset. They are essentially 2 different way to measure the same spec. There is a chart on that page that lets you easily convert between the two.

you have an 8.5" wide rim with a -6 offset. if you look at the chart for an 8.5" wide rim a -6 offset is the equivalent of 4.5" backspace. sounds like you are good to go.
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Old 10-16-2013, 11:09 AM   #844
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I love the look of DesertDozer's Jeep. These are 33X12.5x17R Cooper Discoverer STT (review) on 17x9 4.5"BS Ballistic Jester 814s with no lift. (actual tire size 32.76" x 12.54")

not why this WF member's ride looks so diff. should look identical and it doesn't.
33/12.50/17 cooper STT 2012 JKU no lift

I'm going for the same wide full fender look for my yet to be delivered 14 Rubicon X. I am not concerned about rubbing while offroading. It will be a daily driver so things like handling in snow/rain and road noise are most important.

Here's my problem. I know nothing about those Cooper tires. Anyone have anything good to say about them? are they loud on pavement? do they grab the road?

good WF reviews here
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/coop...es-264865.html

WF STT vs MTR talk here. they give it to MTR for sidewall
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/good...ts-247586.html

good WF review here too
Cooper STT vs GY Duratrac

glowing WF reviews here. sounds like a done deal.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/anyo...es-170963.html

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I love the Goodyear Wrangler MTRs (review) that were on my last Jeep & those aren't available in 33 x 12.5 17R. The MTRs are quiet on road & grab the pavement great. Best big offroad tire I ever had on pavement in rain or snow.

Here's what's close.

LT285/70R17 = actual size 33 x 11.5
a full inch skinnier which I'm not happy about. I want fat tires sticking out past the wheel wells.

LT305/70R17 = actual size 34.1 x 12.2
close enough in width but 1.34" taller which i'm assuming won't fit. already looking pretty snug.

If I drop to a 16R rim LT305/70R16 = actual size 33.1 x 12.2
seems like a good tire size but the Jester rims don't come in 16"

as much as I want to get these, I'm not sure there's one that will give me the same look.

I looked at the forum favorites Goodyear Duratrac but they have the same size issues.

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General Grabber AT2 (review) makes a 33 x 12.5 x 17R that's damn near the identical actual size (32.8 x 12.5) but again, I know nothing about these tires.

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what to do, what to do?? maybe I'll just go w/ the coopers & keep my fingers crossed. would love some feedback.
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Old 10-21-2013, 10:53 AM   #845
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LOOKING AT PRO COMP 7031 17x9 5x5 alloy. what tire brand and size will fit with no problems. stock 2013 2 door wrangler . the more I read the more I get confused
what do I do with the tire pressure monitor? replace with new ones?
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Old 10-21-2013, 11:02 AM   #846
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PRO COMP 7031 17x9 5x5 alloys

LOOKING AT THESE PRO COMP 7031 17x9 5x5 FOR MY 2013 JK
WHAT SIZE TIRE and BRAND WILL FIT WITH NO PROBLEMS. WHAT ABOUT
SPARE TIRE RACK ...WHAT IS THE LARGEST TIRE THAT FITS STOCK
RACK. LAST, WHAT ABOUT TIRE PRESSURE MONITOR . DO I RELACE WITH NEW ONES WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS. SORRY FOR BEING CONFUSED ABOUT ALL THIS BUT THE MORE I READ THE LESS I KNOW. OGGTR
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:21 PM   #847
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Hey guys I have a tj with 2" wheel adapters and 17" jk wheels ..I also have a 6" teraflex lift can I run 36/12.5/17 on this set up without a problem
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:18 PM   #848
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I have a 2010 4dr JK with 1.25" wheel spacers and an installed Leveling Kit.

Any idea if I can get 285 70R18 tires on my jeep?
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:24 PM   #849
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I have a 2010 4dr JK with a leveling kit and 1.25" wheel spacers.

Anyone know if 285 70R18 tires will work on my current stock 18" rims?
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:08 PM   #850
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I have a 2010 4dr JK with a leveling kit and 1.25" wheel spacers.

Anyone know if 285 70R18 tires will work on my current stock 18" rims?
1.25 or 1.5" spacers? You may rub the air dam at full turn but you can trim it or just deal with the noise. If you'll be disconnecting the sway bars and offroading same thing with the fenders.
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Old 10-28-2013, 06:49 PM   #851
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Hi there ...I have an 05 Wrangler TJ with standard rims etc at the moment...looking at changing to 15 x 10 rims ...what is the biggest tire I can go to without lifting? Looking at road tires not AT tires.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:10 PM   #852
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Hi there ...I have an 05 Wrangler TJ with standard rims etc at the moment...looking at changing to 15 x 10 rims ...what is the biggest tire I can go to without lifting? Looking at road tires not AT tires.
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You might want to post in the TJ forum. Probably get more responses and more informed responses.
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Old 10-30-2013, 04:09 AM   #853
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I ordered 265 65 16 duratrac from 4wheel they are c rated. They told me that I would not have any issues with rubbing when I get quick disconnects. Is this true. I didnt want to go over 32 inch high but they said that it will be like 32.5 is this also true. I was going to go with good year authority but walmart wouldnt put them on in the same size as mentioned above. I am lost on the tire sized why cant the tire makers just put the size on the tire lol
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Old 10-30-2013, 05:15 AM   #854
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I ordered 265 65 16 duratrac from 4wheel they are c rated. They told me that I would not have any issues with rubbing when I get quick disconnects. Is this true. I didnt want to go over 32 inch high but they said that it will be like 32.5 is this also true. I was going to go with good year authority but walmart wouldnt put them on in the same size as mentioned above. I am lost on the tire sized why cant the tire makers just put the size on the tire lol
265x.65=172.25 sidewall height. 172.25x2=344.5 (total height of sidewalls, top and bottom), 344.5x.03937=13.56 (to convert metric to imperial ie mm to inches) 13.56+16=29.56 ( height of sidewalls plus rim)
This is only a 29.56 inch tire
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Old 10-30-2013, 04:42 PM   #855
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oh, thx the stock tire is way smaller then what is on there now, that okay, i didnt want to lift it until after is paid for...do u think i need to change or have my speedo reset?
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:48 PM   #856
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So i am in need of making a decision. I have a 2014 JKUR and I am putting 35 inch tires on next week. I have a purchase order set up for 35x17 km2s with 17 inch xd hoss rims. The cost is $2800

I was surfing craigslist and found some 35x16 km2s for $1000 for 5 of them. i was thinking about purchasing those tires and then just buying rims to fit them. i was looking at level 8 zx 16x8.5 5-127 -6mtb. Total of about $700 for 5 of them. So this route would save me around $1000 and i like both rims so i am good either way.

my question is will these rims fit a JKUR if i can make this happen?

what would you choose if this was your ride?
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Old 11-02-2013, 12:33 PM   #857
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Wishful thinking....
I'd like to put a set of 285R70/17 Duratracs on a 2014 2-door Rubicon.
After reading through a number of threads it seems post 2013 Wranglers are able to accommodate these on stock rims with no spacers. Did something change in 2013 & does anyone have experience with this set-up (no lift/leveling, no spacers & stock rims)?

Thanks....
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:22 PM   #858
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will they rub?

i have a new 2 door 2014 Sahara on the way. I have new 17x9 BirdDog wheels and 33" LT285/70R17 Goodyear Silent Armor tires to be swapped for the stock wheels/tires. NO LIFT yet. NO SPACERS. Will they rub??? Thanks.
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To follow-up from my above ‘wishful thinking’ post (#857) and after reading even more posts on the forum (to the point of a brain freeze) do the below options make any sense with regard to changing out the stock KM’s on a 2014 2-door rubi:
1) Go with a slightly smaller diameter tire (similar to the 10A stock setup): Duratrac LT265R70/17
2) Replace the KMs with the same size Silent Armors (keep the stk wheels; no lift/wheel changes): GYSA P255R75/17
3) Replace the KMs with slightly larger Silent Armors (keep the stk wheels; no lift/wheel changes): GYSA LT275R70/17
4) Replace the KMs with 285R70/17s (requires new wheels or spacers (?) and maybe a 2”lift or level kit): Duratrac’s
Any Pros/Cons or out-to lunch comments would be helpful (especially if you’re running any of the above set-ups).
Thx…
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So i am in need of making a decision. I have a 2014 JKUR and I am putting 35 inch tires on next week. I have a purchase order set up for 35x17 km2s with 17 inch xd hoss rims. The cost is $2800

I was surfing craigslist and found some 35x16 km2s for $1000 for 5 of them. i was thinking about purchasing those tires and then just buying rims to fit them. i was looking at level 8 zx 16x8.5 5-127 -6mtb. Total of about $700 for 5 of them. So this route would save me around $1000 and i like both rims so i am good either way.

my question is will these rims fit a JKUR if i can make this happen?

what would you choose if this was your ride?
Yes they will. It will give you a slightly wider stance than the stock setup. Maybe 3/4" wider stance.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:43 PM   #861
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Question help about a tire and rim upgrade to my 2010 JK Sport.

Hi, I have a bone stock 2010 jeep wrangler sport. Its a 3.8l 6speed manual transmission. The stock rims are 16" 5lug by 5" space between lugs. I bought a set of five Rubicon rims that are 17" 5lug by 5" space. The new rims are from a 2011 rubicon. I also have a friend selling me a set of 305 70 17 tires. My question is simple, with this rim/tire swap I made; if I'm not driving off road anytime soon can I swap these wheels and tires from a 17" rubicon to my sport with no road problems? If I have to do a lift will a 2" lift work? Or would spacers be better or bumper stops? Please help me understand how to make this as painless as possible. I'm willing to trim a little off my fender flares. Thanks, all help needed soon!
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stock rims and 305/70-17 is going to rub on your sway bar.
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:56 PM   #863
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Nitto Terra Grapplers. 285/70/17. 2010 Jku sport. Slight rub at full flex. Just need to plasti dip those rims.
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Old 11-22-2013, 09:15 PM   #864
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Based on your description, I would say you need to stick with a 16" (or larger) wheel. Most of the 15" wheels have a very shallow backspacing in order to clear the brake calipers. This of course pushes the wheel/tire further outward.

If you are considering getting wheels, then I would urge you to skip the spacers and save a little while longer and get the wheels. Quality spacers will run you about $200 for the set of 4. These will effectively take the backspacing of your stock wheels down to 4.75" and will allow you to run something like a 285+ tire without issue. But new wheels would be the way to go.

For you, I would recommend something such as a 16x8.5" wheel with 4.5" backspacing and a tire such as a 285/75/16 (33x11). This will widen the stance of your rig without causing the wheels/tires to protrude too far out from the fender. This is the exact setup I run (can see pics somewhere in this thread). Of course, you could run a much wider tire on this setup if you wanted to.
Thanks! You answered my question without me asking! Blessings.
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Old 11-23-2013, 01:07 PM   #865
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One of the most frequently asked questions on this forum is “What's the largest tire I can fit on my stock/unlifted 07+ JK?”. So, I put this post together that can either be made a sticky, or something that we can link to whenever this question arises.

Have to give thanks to kbwwolf for proof-reading and making a few tweaks here and there. Thanks bro!

First things first. Jeeps come stock with 3 different tire sizes:
1. 225/75/16 (29”x9”)
2. 255/75/17 (32”x10”)
3. 255/70/18 (32”x10”).

The backspacing on stock JK wheels is 6.25". That means that the mounting surface of the wheel is 6.25” from the rear lip of the wheel. The larger the backspace number, the further under the fender (and closer to suspension components and airdam) the wheel will be. (see below image)


I see posts all the time saying that a 33” tire will fit the stock JK just fine, and that is semi-true. In reality, this question requires a 2 part answer. The first part deals with tire diameter. The second part deals with width.

It is true that the largest diameter tire you can fit on a stock JK without issue (read on) is 33” in diameter. With this diameter, you shouldn’t have any issues on the street. However, you could get some contact with your fenders if you flex offroad. Disconnecting your front sway bar will cause contact with your fenders.

Now let’s take a look at tire width. People often overlook this aspect when choosing a tire. The width on most 33's range from 10” – 12.5”+.

On Stock Wheels
The largest tire you can fit without a chance of problems on road is a 33x10 tire (also called a “pizza cutter”). An example is the 255/80/17 BFG KM2. Because this tire is the same width as most stock JK tires, there is no issue on road, despite the larger diameter. You can run this size without issue.

Now, let’s consider some tires that could potentially cause slight issues on road; the 33x11s. The common sizes of these would be 285/75/16, 285/70/17, and 275/70/18.

The 275/70/18 measures slightly under 11” wide, while the other two measure a little over. Many folks have reported running these sizes without issue. However, others have experienced contact with the airdam or front suspension components. Simple fixes are to add washers to the steering stops, trim the airdam, or install wheel spacers.

Any tire larger than 11” in width, you are almost guaranteed to have to do one of the above mentioned mods. In fact, if you go too much wider than the 11” tire on stock wheels, you stand a good chance of making contact with your rear swaybar end link. If that is the case, wheel spacers can correct this issue. Common sizes are 295/70/17 (33x11.6), 305/60/17 (33x12), 305/70/16 (33x12), 295/65/18 (33x11.6).

On Aftermarket Wheels
As I mentioned initially, the stock wheels have a backspacing of 6.25”. This is too deep of a backspace to allow proper clearance for a decently wide tire. The general consensus is that the “magic number” for backspacing for the JK is 4.5” or less. It does not mean you can't run a wheel with 4.6”+. But 4.5” and under is the safest bet.

Many 15” wheels have less (sometimes a lot less) than 4.5”. That's so the wheel clears the brake calipers. Most 15” wheels come with 3.75” of backspacing (MB72, MB TKO, etc). There are a few that come with more (such as the Black Rock 909 – 4”) and some that come with less (such as the Level 8 Tracker – 3.32”). Just remember, the lower the backspace number, the further out the wheel will sit from the Jeep body. One of the most common wheel/tire combos on this site is the 15x8 MB 72 wheel with 33x12.5x15 Duratrac tires. Dozens of people run this setup without a single issue on the street. However, just like most of the other 33” combinations, you can get some fender contact when offroad.

Also, be aware that, while many 15" alloy wheels will fit over the Wrangler's brake calipers, most 15" steel wheels will not.

Once you get into 16”+ wheels, it's pretty easy to select a wheel with a backspace near 4.5”. The most common 33” tire to run with 16” aftermarket wheel is the 285/75/16. A common tire size for the 17” wheel is the 285/70/17.

Links of interest:
Utility to compare tire sizes
Adding washers to the steering stops

very helpful, thank you!
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Hey guys,
I'm new here, so sorry if this has been asked before.

I just got a 2011 Jeep Wrangler 2D sport, and I want to get better tires.
Right now, I have 255/75R 17, and I want the same tire, or something that looks like them.

Here is the photo that I am going off of.
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Hey guys,
I'm new here, so sorry if this has been asked before.

I just got a 2011 Jeep Wrangler 2D sport, and I want to get better tires.
Right now, I have 255/75R 17, and I want the same tire, or something that looks like them.

Here is the photo that I am going off of.
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check local craigslist. You can always find rubicon take off tires for decent price.
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I have a Stock 2014 Rubicon X and I just saw yesterday where the drivers side tire is eating the fender liner at the bottom front of the wheel well ?

What do you guys make of that?
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I have a Stock 2014 Rubicon X and I just saw yesterday where the drivers side tire is eating the fender liner at the bottom front of the wheel well ?

What do you guys make of that?
photos please. stock tires should have plenty of clearance.
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check local craigslist. You can always find rubicon take off tires for decent price.
But will they fit on my stock rims?
That's what I'm trying to ask, what size tire is the rubicon?
Or what's a good looking tire that will fit on the OEM rim

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