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Old 05-08-2012, 07:59 PM   #151
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go flex it up see what happens

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My new wheels and tires came in today. No lift (I leave near a city and have to deal with parking garages), 285/70/17 Nitto Trail Grapplers on XD Addict 798, 17x9. I'm very happy with the look. 4.5 inches of backspacing on those wheels so no rubbing that I can tell so far.
These are actually 285/75/17 -- sorry for the typo above.

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i thought they looked a little big under there. you are deffinately going to rub your fenders. break out the dremel
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Just want to thank 4fit and his thread! Here's my "largest tire setup on stock suspension". MB72 16x8.5 with 4.5 BS on Falken Mountain ATS 285x75x16. Tire measurement is 32" on vehicle (PROCAL setup accordingly and TPMS deactivated). DT inflated the tires to 37 psi...any suggestions on proper tire pressure?

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37 is too high. Drop to 32...ride will be much better and your Jeep will not get jarred to hell. Try that and see what you think. This isn't such a heavy vehicle. I dropped my 32" KM2s to 32 from 37- far better.
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37 is too high. Drop to 32...ride will be much better and your Jeep will not get jarred to hell. Try that and see what you think. This isn't such a heavy vehicle. I dropped my 32" KM2s to 32 from 37- far better.
Thank's! I will even try a chalk test tomorrow! (as per another WF members advice )
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Looks real good Red Belly. I have the same tires and run them at 31 psi.
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Looks real good Red Belly. I have the same tires and run them at 31 psi.
Thanks, again 4fit!
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I have a 2012 COD MW3 and want to keep it as stock as possible but prefer wider/taller tires on stock wheels. Toyo Open Country MT [35/12.5/R17]

I have asked around and basically I don't have the backspace to do 35" tires on the stock 17" wheels without having to do spacers. I'm not 100% certain but the majority of people that I asked they told me to not use spacers because of the stress that brings to the lugs. I'm trying not to change the wheels because I want to keep the stock look of the COD MW3 as much as possible but I don't want to compromise the ride nor stress the lugs at all...

I want confirm with you guys that using the right spacers is ok or not.

I have 2 options regarding tires/wheels/lift

1. Toyo Open Country [35/12.5/R17]
2. Toyo Open Country [35/12.5/R20] [Yes, I'm one of those crazy ones, ]


So my question:

Should I go with 35", lift, stock wheel plus spacers or new wheels, lift, tires and no spacers?

looking forward to your comments
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I have a 2012 COD MW3 and want to keep it as stock as possible but prefer wider/taller tires on stock wheels. Toyo Open Country MT [35/12.5/R17]

I have asked around and basically I don't have the backspace to do 35" tires on the stock 17" wheels without having to do spacers. I'm not 100% certain but the majority of people that I asked they told me to not use spacers because of the stress that brings to the lugs. I'm trying not to change the wheels because I want to keep the stock look of the COD MW3 as much as possible but I don't want to compromise the ride nor stress the lugs at all...

I want confirm with you guys that using the right spacers is ok or not.

I have 2 options regarding tires/wheels/lift

1. Toyo Open Country [35/12.5/R17]
2. Toyo Open Country [35/12.5/R20] [Yes, I'm one of those crazy ones, ]


So my question:

Should I go with 35", lift, stock wheel plus spacers or new wheels, lift, tires and no spacers?

looking forward to your comments
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Nope, a 12.5" tire will not work on your stock wheels without spacers. That being said, as long as good quality hub-centric spacers are used (such as the 1.5" Spidertrax) and maintained properly, they will put no more stress on the hubs/ball joints/etc than a wheel with the less backspacing will. A hub-centric spacer will not put any more stress on the lugs than the stock wheel alone being bolted up. You will need to check the torque of the spacers at each tire rotation.

Just for research sake, here is a fairly large thread over at JK-F devoted to 35s on stock wheels.

Of course, new wheels are always an option. But I understand why you are wanting to keep the look of the MW3. If you do go with new wheels, please stick with 17s over 20s.

What lift are you planning on running to clear the 35s? Also, you will need to throw a Procal on your shopping list so you can recalibrate for the taller tires.
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Thanks a lot 4fit for your help

I'm looking at 2 lifts at the moment:

1. AEV 2.5/3.5" RS
2. Mopar/Teraflex 3"

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Thanks a lot 4fit for your help

I'm looking at 2 lifts at the moment:

1. AEV 2.5/3.5" RS
2. Mopar/Teraflex 3"

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I'm torn between Bilstein or Fox shocks...

Which one are better for the application?

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What am I Looking at

NewB here enjoying the wealth of knowledge on the forum. Especially, this thread, as I'm about to purchase some wheels and tires for the 12 JK Sport. I'm looking at various 17x9 wheels with 4.5 bs and either Dura's or MT/R tires. I recently replaced the stock flares with the BW pockets. What I'm trying to determine is, how much tire am I adding outward from the stock setup to the 17x9 w/4.5 bs and a 285x70x17 tire? I'm guessing that I'll add about 3 inches. Does this sound right.

By the way, thanks for putting this info out there 4Fit. Good Stuff
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about an inch
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ugh! double post. see below.
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NewB here enjoying the wealth of knowledge on the forum. Especially, this thread, as I'm about to purchase some wheels and tires for the 12 JK Sport. I'm looking at various 17x9 wheels with 4.5 bs and either Dura's or MT/R tires. I recently replaced the stock flares with the BW pockets. What I'm trying to determine is, how much tire am I adding outward from the stock setup to the 17x9 w/4.5 bs and a 285x70x17 tire? I'm guessing that I'll add about 3 inches. Does this sound right.

By the way, thanks for putting this info out there 4Fit. Good Stuff
I would say around 2.5 inches sounds about right. Of course, you aren't really adding that much tire. You are just moving the tire outward with the less backspaced wheel. The actual tire difference from the stock 255 to the 285 is about 1.2" total, so a little more than 1/2 inch on each side of the center line of the wheel.


Here is my 285s on a 4.5" backspaced 16x8.5" wheel.

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And here's mine with same setup measurements as 4fit. ;-)
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Would a set of 255/80r17 on a stock Unlimited Rubicon rub anything during articulation disco'ed or not off road as I have heard conflicting reports about that size.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
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that one depends on the springs in the front of your jeep.
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that one depends on the springs in the front of your jeep.
I'm unsure of the springs as I have ordered the Rubi and am waiting for delivery. But I did spec it with the max tow package if that makes any difference?
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One more looking down the side.

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What kind of spacers did you use?
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I'm unsure of the springs as I have ordered the Rubi and am waiting for delivery. But I did spec it with the max tow package if that makes any difference?
it might. get the 33s worse case senario you get the teraflex leveling kit for 130 bucks
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What kind of spacers did you use?
He has aftermarket wheels. Pretty sure he isn't using any spacers.
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flexed the hell out of mine today. no rubbing i could discern
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flexed the hell out of mine today. no rubbing i could discern
Good for you! What size of Wheels/Tires are you running? And what kind of suspension? I did the same thing today (not even discoed) and my 285X75R16 Falken's on 16x8.5 and 4.5 BS MB72's Rubbed inside the rear fenders! I was expecting that though...so I ordered the TF leveling kit! Hope it gets here in 2 days, as I live in the nearby state from NorthRidge4X4!
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Good for you! What size of Wheels/Tires are you running? And what kind of suspension? I did the same thing today (not even discoed) and my 285X75R16 Falken's on 16x8.5 and 4.5 BS MB72's Rubbed inside the rear fenders! I was expecting that though...so I ordered the TF leveling kit! Hope it gets here in 2 days, as I live in the nearby state from NorthRidge4X4!
285/70r17 not discoed with 5 in back spacing on a copper atp. im going to fender trim before i lift/level. low center of gravity is my preference
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Thanks! I should have gone with 5-5.5 BS. Oh well...coz mine only rubbed just a tad!
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what did they rub on?
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what did they rub on?
Just around 11 and 12 o'clock outer edge of rear tires rubbing inside the rear fender flares when flexed.
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