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Old 11-23-2013, 11:48 PM   #1
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Lift Tires for Snowy, Icy Winters and Mountain-driving Summers

Hi, I just joined the forum today.

I have a 2010 Wrangler sport and I live in Calgary, Alberta so our Winters are snowy and icy. I'm planning to lift the Jeep so I would like recommendations on which tires to get? Most of the time, I just use the Jeep for daily commutes in the city but in the Summers I would like to do some exploring of the Rocky Mountains which are not too far away.

Size of tires will probably be 35 in and just want to have one set of tires I leave on all year, if possible.

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Old 11-24-2013, 12:42 AM   #2
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Welcome!

I hear good things about the GY Duratracs in snow. The're on my short list along with the Toyo ATIIs.

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I hear good things about the GY Duratracs in snow. The're on my short list along with the Toyo ATIIs.
Thanks! I'll check those out.
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:28 AM   #4
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JP magazine tire review might be worth a look:

The Hot Sheet: 33 Off-Road Tires Tested - Jp Magazine

might apply to 35's
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Old 11-24-2013, 12:15 PM   #5
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JP magazine tire review might be worth a look:

The Hot Sheet: 33 Off-Road Tires Tested - Jp Magazine

might apply to 35's
The Duratracs look great on that review, cheers.

I'm in Canada, so have to order in metric: what would 35s on 15in wheels be in metric, anyone know?
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:50 PM   #6
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Which size should I get? Please take a look at this link. There is a drop down menu to choose tire size. I would like to get 35in tires and hopefully use my stock rims.

http://tires.canadiantire.ca/en/tire...gler-duratrac/
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Sorry i can't help with the link I always go into my "local" tire store and tell them what I want and they do the rest......I came on here to give another endorsement for the Duratracs.....but also to suggest/ check on a "road hazard warranty". Down here at our local shops it includes "LIFETIME ROTATION and BALANCING". Tire life usage determined by tread depth and prorated accordingly...over 3 sets of tires I have used it 2 times to have tire replaced.....cost here is about $15 per wheel...and IMO it pays for itself over the life of the tire....in rotation and balancing. It also gives them a chance to look over your vehicle and "sell" you something else. And I am not afraid to maybe have them "catch" something else. Both times I got a new tire for "free".

Unlimited rotations and balance...means mine are done every 5K miles or 3 months.
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Sorry i can't help with the link I always go into my "local" tire store and tell them what I want and they do the rest......I came on here to give another endorsement for the Duratracs.....but also to suggest/ check on a "road hazard warranty". Down here at our local shops it includes "LIFETIME ROTATION and BALANCING". Tire life usage determined by tread depth and prorated accordingly...over 3 sets of tires I have used it 2 times to have tire replaced.....cost here is about $15 per wheel...and IMO it pays for itself over the life of the tire....in rotation and balancing. It also gives them a chance to look over your vehicle and "sell" you something else. And I am not afraid to maybe have them "catch" something else. Both times I got a new tire for "free".

Unlimited rotations and balance...means mine are done every 5K miles or 3 months.
I think I will probably go with the Duratracs and will keep the lifetime rotation warranty in mind, thanks.
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Currently have 255/75/R17 and want to get 35s and use my stock rims so is 315/70/R17 the best choice?
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The Duratracs look great on that review, cheers.

I'm in Canada, so have to order in metric: what would 35s on 15in wheels be in metric, anyone know?
315R75/16 or 315R70/17, not sure if there's a 35" Duratrac for 15" rims

might try playing around on a tire calculator (there's a lot of 'em, this one works well):

Tire Dimensions Made Simple - Discount Tire
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Currently have 255/75/R17 and want to get 35s and use my stock rims so is 315/70/R17 the best choice?
might check this tread out:

Largest tire on stock JK? Here's your answer!

You'll probably need a lift and wheel spacers - stock rim might be to narrow.
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might check this tread out:

Largest tire on stock JK? Here's your answer!

You'll probably need a lift and wheel spacers.
Thanks aal5441, as you can tell I've never bought tires before.
Yes, I'm planning to lift the Jeep. I'm also going to replace the stock front bumper with a poison spyder stinger and the back with probably the LoD Jeep JK Wrangler Fullwidth Signature Series Rear Bumper with the Generation 3 Tire Carrier.

It's going to be one awesome jeep!
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Just be aware that the best rated winter tire in that piece was the Goodyear Silent Armor, not the Duratrac. Unless you are into deep mud the SAs are a better tire with a better sidewall. Just some additional thought.
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I've been looking at 33's so 35's are a little new to me, but it looks like the stock rims will be to narrow for 35's:

Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac | Goodyear Tires

on the left side of the above website - click on the view tire sizes and specifications;
looks like they need an 8.5 to 10.0 inch rim.

I'm leaning toward the Silent Armors, but the Duratrac's do look good.
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I've been looking at 33's so 35's are a little new to me, but it looks like the stock rims will be to narrow for 35's:

Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac | Goodyear Tires

on the left side of the above website - click on the view tire sizes and specifications;
looks like they need an 8.5 to 10.0 inch rim.

I'm leaning toward the Silent Armors, but the Duratrac's do look good.
I've got the Silent Armors and they are outstanding in packed snow and ice and even the deep stuff. Took them wheeling in Moab and they climbed rocks like a mountain goat. Great tires.
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I've got the Silent Armors and they are outstanding in packed snow and ice and even the deep stuff. Took them wheeling in Moab and they climbed rocks like a mountain goat. Great tires.
Hi - sorry to hijack the tread butů

curious about your tire change as I'm looking at doing a change-out when the Jeep shows up (it's on order), probably to GY SA's (mostly for the rain & occasional snow in Seattle): did you stay with the stock size or did you bump up to a larger (wider) tire?
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Hi - sorry to hijack the tread but…

curious about your tire change as I'm looking at doing a change-out when the Jeep shows up (it's on order), probably to GY SA's (mostly for the rain & occasional snow in Seattle): did you stay with the stock size or did you bump up to a larger (wider) tire?
I live in Oregon so similar weather to you. I stayed with stock size as I didn't want to lift. Had no issues with the unlifted Rubicon and these tires, even on the moderate trails at Moab. Love these tires in rain too.
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Old 11-25-2013, 06:50 PM   #18
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I've been looking at 33's so 35's are a little new to me, but it looks like the stock rims will be to narrow for 35's:

Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac | Goodyear Tires

on the left side of the above website - click on the view tire sizes and specifications;
looks like they need an 8.5 to 10.0 inch rim.

I'm leaning toward the Silent Armors, but the Duratrac's do look good.
The Jeep parts place I'm talking to says the 17s I have will be fine for 35in tires and I'm going to do a 2.5in lift.
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:06 AM   #19
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The Jeep parts place I'm talking to says the 17s I have will be fine for 35in tires and I'm going to do a 2.5in lift.
Not sure why the GY website has a larger width.

In addition to a lift, due to the stock wheel's backspacing, some other threads also mention that you will likely need wheel spacers to keep the tires from rubbing (seems like 1.5" spydertrax are popular)
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Not sure why the GY website has a larger width.

In addition to a lift, due to the stock wheel's backspacing, some other threads also mention that you will likely need wheel spacers to keep the tires from rubbing (seems like 1.5" spydertrax are popular)
Thanks!
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Old 12-13-2013, 01:52 PM   #21
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Had the Wrangler lifted 3 inches yesterday. Looks great, rides great! The Jeep transformation has begun
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I thought I would weigh in here. I havent actually lived in Calgary so I dont know how wintry winter really is there. GY Duratrac would not really stack up very well against a real winter tire. If you live somewhere where there is real winter (where you put winter tires on cars in the winter not all-seasons) then you should put a real winter tire on your jeep. I put Hankook RT03 tires with studs on my jeep, thinking a tire with pretty good offroad performance with studs would be best of both years. I have real snow tires on my pickup and my partner's car. Its the compound and siping - real winter tires have a compound that still grips the road at very low temps when other tires are hard and slippery. You should not use them once the average temp is above freezing as they wear out fast. Real winter tires have all those little siped cuts in the tread which increase the gripping edge. Both of those features are not features you want in an offroad tire you use when there is little or no snow, they wear out really fast except on snow and ice.

Jeeps are actually not great vehicles for driving in winter conditions (pick ups are worse) except when you are likely to get stuck (which realistically is a very small percentage of the time) they do not handle as well as passenger cars and are even worse in winter when it is slippery.
I suggest that real winter tires in the winter are the way to go. While you are at it get them on wheels with backspacing that will allow bigger tires to clear the suspension without spacers. Having two sets of tires is no more expensive than one set except for start up because they last longer. If you get real winter tires you can also get real offroad tires that will perform better offroad than the Duratracs.
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I realize I didnt finish. The RT03s which are a decent offroad tire are even with studs only an ok winter tire
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Hmm, I already ordered the DuraTracs but they haven't arrived yet.
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I've been looking at reviews for these tires with special attention paid to those who have used them in snow and ice and the reviews have been overwhelmingly positive. For ex, here's one from someone living in my area:

Jeep Forum.com reviews of Good Year DuraTrac tires:
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Pros: Look great, way quieter than my old mudders. Great in the ice and snow, way better than mudders for that.
Cons: Not as good in Mud as Mudders, duh.
Recommended? Yes

Comments: This is the most aggressive studdable all terrain tire I could find. I live near the Rockies in Canada and drive through them all the time in the winter. These tires are awesome for winter, and judging by the looks of them, they should be respectable on most trails that don't have deep mud. Big improvement for me for 99% of my driving. I'll keep my mudders on a set of steelies, but these are waaaaaaaay better for everything else.
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Hmm, I already ordered the DuraTracs but they haven't arrived yet.
I'm interested to hear how you like them.
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I'm interested to hear how you like them.
I had GY Dura Tracs in 315/70R/17 (approx 34.4in) put on the Wrangler on Monday. Tuesday I drove on mostly bare streets except when I had to turn into a parking lot: the Dura Tracs slid a bit on the packed snow / icy 30 deg incline entrance to the lot.

Wed, it snowed a lot. The tires were not bad, not great in the snowy and/or icy conditions. Today I would slide a bit after trying to get going after a light turned green or I made a left turn. I didn't feel like I was out of control though. Most of the time, the tires performed ok. Not sure I would buy them again...we'll see how I feel after having them for a while.

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