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Old 10-14-2013, 04:03 PM   #1
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Petition Goodyear for a 255/75R17 Duratrac

I just wrote to Goodyear on their site. If you would be interested in this size for your JK please do the same. Below is the link to the site and what I wrote. Thanks, if they think their is enough interest they might start making them.

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I am the owner of a 2013 Jeep Wrangler JK. I would love to get a set of Duratracs for my Jeep, as they are very highly rated and a very popular choice for Jeeps due to their capability off road as well as their excellent road manners and snow traction. The problem is my Jeep came with 255/75R17 and that size is not offered in the Duratrac. I don't want to change tire sizes or lift my jeep, as it will sometimes effect warranty claims. I think that if that size was offered that many JK owners would jump on them. I see you offer the MTR- K in that size. Please consider offering it for the Duratracs. Thank you.

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I actually just got 265/70/17 Duratracs because of that very reason. It seems silly they don't offer what has to be one of the most common/loved A/T tires in one of the most common vehicles to put them on??

Actually the tire choices for 255/75/17 pretty much suck all around

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I actually just got 265/70/17 Duratracs because of that very reason. It seems silly they don't offer what has to be one of the most common/loved A/T tires in one of the most common vehicles to put them on??

Actually the tire choices for 255/75/17 pretty much suck all around
Right, and the size you got is shorter by over 1/2"
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Right, and the size you got is shorter by over 1/2"
I'll have to measure but I don't think it's that much, the specs say .4in. There's a difference of .5 inches in just tread wear from when my BFG MTs were new from when I just had them replaced
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Oh some of you have way to much free time!
Well yeah, I'm at work...duh.
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Well yeah, I'm at work...duh.
Same. Actually just updated my RHR radio to the latest software since I couldn't find anything else to do
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x2! I prefer the higher 75 sidewall and don't want to go to the lower profile 70 series Duratrac. I'm about to buy a 255/75x17 Silent Armor from Discount Tire here in Brownsville, TX, but they appear to be out.

My vehicle is a 2011 JK, don't want to lift it, or go to bigger tire, as I don't want any more weight stress on the 3.8 l engine. A 255/74x17 AT C rated tire would be perfect, but there just aren't any.

Would go with the Duratrac in the OEM replacement size, but it's curious that it's not offered.
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x2! I prefer the higher 75 sidewall and don't want to go to the lower profile 70 series Duratrac. I'm about to buy a 255/75x17 Silent Armor from Discount Tire here in Brownsville, TX, but they appear to be out.

My vehicle is a 2011 JK, don't want to lift it, or go to bigger tire, as I don't want any more weight stress on the 3.8 l engine. A 255/74x17 AT C rated tire would be perfect, but there just aren't any.

Would go with the Duratrac in the OEM replacement size, but it's curious that it's not offered.
Well its a long shot but if enough people ask them they might consider it. Im sure there are more people all over that have written them. Worth the five minutes Id say. Nothing to lose.
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Hello all! I think I might be able to help here:

The Duratrac is technically a commercial traction tire, not an all-terrain tire... I know lots of jeepers love them because they are kind of halfway between an all-terrain and a mud-terrain, but the 255/75-17 isn't a common size for commercial vehicles that use that type of tire.

There is a Bridgestone AT Revo 2 and a Firestone Destination AT in the LT255/75-17 LR C size that you're looking for, paullgj. I have them at tire rack. (x4065)

Wrangler Silent Armor in that size is backordered country wide until end of next month at least.
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Hello all! I think I might be able to help here:

The Duratrac is technically a commercial traction tire, not an all-terrain tire... I know lots of jeepers love them because they are kind of halfway between an all-terrain and a mud-terrain, but the 255/75-17 isn't a common size for commercial vehicles that use that type of tire.

There is a Bridgestone AT Revo 2 and a Firestone Destination AT in the LT255/75-17 LR C size that you're looking for, paullgj. I have them at tire rack. (x4065)

Wrangler Silent Armor in that size is backordered country wide until end of next month at least.
Thanks Turk. I went to your site and saw which tires are available in that size before I posted this thread. We have the Firestone Destination ATs I got from you guys on our Tacoma and they are great. I was looking for something a little more aggressive looking for the Jeep though, without going to the MTs in either Firestone or BFG. Im considering the MTR/k, but their snow traction (I live in Cleveland) is not up to the Duratrac. I still think Goodyear would sell a lot of Duratracs in 255/75/17 if they made them. Thanks for your insight!
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Thanks Turk. I went to your site and saw which tires are available in that size before I posted this thread. We have the Firestone Destination ATs I got from you guys on our Tacoma and they are great. I was looking for something a little more aggressive looking for the Jeep though, without going to the MTs in either Firestone or BFG. Im considering the MTR/k, but their snow traction (I live in Cleveland) is not up to the Duratrac. I still think Goodyear would sell a lot of Duratracs in 255/75/17 if they made them. Thanks for your insight!
I also considered the MT/Rs but the ice and snow traction on them supposedly sucks, which was my main reason for not getting them, especially living in Colorado.

The only silent armors in 255/75/17 are a P series tire, which as I understand are great for on road, but are weaker off-road due to less sidewall. They have LT silent armors in like every other size.

The destination AT got good reviews and everything but really doesn't look aggressive at all, looks very plain. The Revo 2s I looked at but the main complaint there is the tread wear, which is said to be very below average for what it should be.
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I also considered the MT/Rs but the ice and snow traction on them supposedly sucks, which was my main reason for not getting them, especially living in Colorado.

The only silent armors in 255/75/17 are a P series tire, which as I understand are great for on road, but are weaker off-road due to less sidewall. They have LT silent armors in like every other size.

The destination AT got good reviews and everything but really doesn't look aggressive at all, looks very plain. The Revo 2s I looked at but the main complaint there is the tread wear, which is said to be very below average for what it should be.
And see that's why everyone wants Duratracs. They just get all around great reviews for all conditions on and off road. I have wheeled with Jeeps using them and they are never stopped due to the tires. Their snow traction is as good as it gets too. Ive yet to read anything negative about them.
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if your going to petition goodyear year for something make it for a 37 =)
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if your going to petition goodyear year for something make it for a 37 =)
Yeah bit if I was going to a 37 my jeep wouldnt likely be my dd and I would get a straight up mud terrain tire or the MTR-k. The Duratrac is the perfect dd weekend warrior tire.
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x2! I prefer the higher 75 sidewall and don't want to go to the lower profile 70 series Duratrac. I'm about to buy a 255/75x17 Silent Armor from Discount Tire here in Brownsville, TX, but they appear to be out.

My vehicle is a 2011 JK, don't want to lift it, or go to bigger tire, as I don't want any more weight stress on the 3.8 l engine. A 255/74x17 AT C rated tire would be perfect, but there just aren't any.

Would go with the Duratrac in the OEM replacement size, but it's curious that it's not offered.
I have the Silent Armors and love them. I bought them to replace the awful stock MTs on my Rubicon. Just got back from Moab and they crawled the rocks like a mountain goat. Hardly any slippage at all and they are great on road tires and great in snow and even ice. Too bad they are back ordered right now. My dealer said he prefers them to DuraTracs and better tread life.
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Yeah bit if I was going to a 37 my jeep wouldnt likely be my dd and I would get a straight up mud terrain tire or the MTR-k. The Duratrac is the perfect dd weekend warrior tire.
i have 37 mtrs and its my dd it drives great. gas mileage is obviously less but im still getting 15ish. the only reason ide have taken the duratracs over the mtrs in 37s was for snow
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I have the Silent Armors and love them. I bought them to replace the awful stock MTs on my Rubicon. Just got back from Moab and they crawled the rocks like a mountain goat. Hardly any slippage at all and they are great on road tires and great in snow and even ice. Too bad they are back ordered right now. My dealer said he prefers them to DuraTracs and better tread life.
And that is what I wanted to hear. I run caliche trails here in South Texas, lots of mesquite thorns, and stuff, avoid the mud, but need good sidewall protection. I viewed the 255 Silent Armor once at Sears, and the sidewalls appeared to be quite stiff/strong.

I just hope the Silent Armors haven't been discontinued. I saw a similar new kevlar tire, Goodyear All-Terrain Adventurer, on some website, but appeared to be a few pounds lighter/per tire than the Silent Armors. Hope that's not a replacement 'cause it was not listed in the 255/75x17 size.
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Hello all! I think I might be able to help here:

The Duratrac is technically a commercial traction tire, not an all-terrain tire... I know lots of jeepers love them because they are kind of halfway between an all-terrain and a mud-terrain, but the 255/75-17 isn't a common size for commercial vehicles that use that type of tire.

There is a Bridgestone AT Revo 2 and a Firestone Destination AT in the LT255/75-17 LR C size that you're looking for, paullgj. I have them at tire rack. (x4065)

Wrangler Silent Armor in that size is backordered country wide until end of next month at least.
Hi Turk,

Thanks for the info. I went to the TireRack website to check them out. I'm going to hold out a little bit for the Silent Armors, give it a few more weeks. I just hope they aren't discontinued. A few friends of mine run them on the thorn-brush trails here in S. Texas with good results.
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I recieved an email reply from Goodyear. As follows:

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From: goodyear_cr@goodyear.com on 10/16/2013 12:58 PM

Sent by: Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company Consumer Relations 728 1144 East
Market Street Akron, OH 44316 Voice #: 800.321.2136 Fax #:
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Mr. Gus54,

Thank you for contacting our web site and considering Goodyear for your
replacement tire needs. The MT/R with Kevlar would be a great option for
your Jeep. I will forward your email to our Marketing Brand Manager for
consideration on this size in the Duratrac line.

Let me know if you change your mind about purchasing the MT/R model. We're
currently running a rebate through the end of December and the MT/R
qualifies for $60.00 or $120.00, see attachment:

(See attached file: 13 NPP3 Rebate Form - $160.pdf)

I can offer you an additional $40.00 rebate on a set of MT/R with Kevlar if
you decide to purchase them.

Jennifer - Consumer Relations
Nice rebate offers, but I don't need tires yet since my SRAs only have a couple thousand miles on them.
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Went to Discount Tire today. 2 Silent Armors in Tampa, Fl and 2 in Billings, Montana, nothing else. They convinced me to go with Hankook ATM 255/75x17, easier to replace if something happens to them, Silent Armor will be out of production. I did not want to go the 265/70x17 size. The MT/R with Kevlar option looks good, but at 52 lbs. I think they're kind of heavy for a DD.
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Here's the deal guys. The Wrangler JK is the ONLY vehicle on earth that uses 255/75-17 as a stock size. Chrysler has always been bad about specifying their own odd tire sizes. The 275/70-17 size came about because Chrysler wanted to use that on late 90s/early 00s Ram 1500 Off-Road package trucks. It's the only truck that ever used that size. So if you own a Chrysler built 4x4 you will always have FEW options to upgrade to.

Best thing to do is go 265/70-17. I have personally put the tape measure on dozens of tires and there are a lot of 265/70-17s that are identical in size to 255/75-17s, and vice versa. The real world difference between the two is not noticeable.

Also, the 2013 JK showed up with 265/70-17 as a stock option for particular models and in the future I predict that this will become the norm. The new CEO of Chrysler/Fiat is hellbent on saving money and making things more efficient and these oddball tire sizes are going to become a thing of the past. If I were you, I'd go ahead and convert to 265 now. Or better yet, 285.
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u could just slap a 285 on there and be gtg.
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u could just slap a 285 on there and be gtg.
I thought I would either have to install wheel spacers or a wheel with around 4" bs to avoid rubbing since its a wider tire. Am I wrong? Either way, thats probably what I will do.
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You would need wheels or spacers, and at least a leveling kit to avoid rubbing when flexing off-road. I did lots of research before deciding on the 265s, the pro 285 crowd just recommends them blindly without considering a lot don't want to do wheels, spacers, lift, etc..

There is a new A/T from Goodyear called the All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar, I'm guessing this is going to replace the Silent Armor since those are back ordered everywhere. Of course they don't make this new tire in 255/75/17 either
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Was just at Goodyear today they said the Silent Armor is discontinued and being replaced with the "Silent Avenger"
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My decision is going to be based largely on how well the stock SR-As perform this winter in the snow. If they are acceptable, I will likely keep them since they are new, and replace in a year or two with the 285/70R17 Duratracs, Pro Comp alloys with 3.75" bs, and a Teraflex level kit. That will give me the time to save the 2K+ needed for that. If the SR-As are unacceptable in the snow, I may just replace them immediately with a set of 255/75R17 Firestone Destination ATs and call it good. The JK won't see any serious off roading like my TJ did, at least not for several years. And at that time I will lift it 2.5" and install 35s, regear, blah blah blah. Actually I'm fine with the size tire I have now, and actually think a 32 looks pretty good on a 2 door.

We have the Firestone ATs on the wife's Tacoma and they are a great all around tire. Even perform well off road except in mud. They'd be perfect for my JK for my type of need and I bet on road in wet or snow are as good or better than the Duratracs. I just like the more aggressive look of the Duratracs to be honest.
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Wrangler Silent Armors in 255/75R17 are coming into stock early if you guys are interested. Shoot me an email turk@tirerack.com if you're interested still.
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Went with Silent Armors after all

The local Discount Tire forgot to order the Hankooks. Good for me.
Stopped by this morning and they found Silent Armors and ordered them. I prefer the high/narrow sidewall of the 255/75 and the Silent Armors have a strong sidewall. Should be here by next Wed. or Thurs. Related to this, staying with my 2011, even with the slug-bug engine/auto. I'd sure lie the power of a 2014 6 spd but I'm retiring in 10 months and don't want to get into payments at age 68
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I had the same dilemma as Gus54. I would have went with a 255/75 Duratrac if it was available but decided to try the 265/70 for my 13 JK. Honestly the .4 inch or whatever it is is not noticeable at all to me. The tire is so much better in the wet and snow then my stock KMs the slight size difference was totally worth it. I ended up with the load range E tires and feel they ride a little better than the stock KMs.

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