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Old 08-28-2013, 09:04 PM   #1
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Stock steel 16" 225/75R16 to 265/75R16

A quick before and after comparison I did to the stock steel 16" wheels on my JKU. There are a couple threads that discuss the larger size tire I used but it gets thrown in with comments that include 17" and 18" wheels so I decided to create this thread specifically for the 16"er and what a JKU looks like with the 265/75R16.

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Its been three weeks owning my JKU and after 1100 miles the tiny tires had to go. I definitely do not like the look or how they handled. The final straw was yesterday when I was driving in the rain, the ABS kicked in often approaching intersections, I could feel the front end slide easily on a turn if made too sharp or too fast and conscious throttle control was necessary to keep the rear tires from breaking traction.

These were things that I considered were important for me.
1. I live in the desert so mud terrains seems like a waste for me and my DD. An A/T tire that is not too aggressive where road noise will be a factor. I still drive 75 miles round trip on the highway to and from work.

2. The new tire must fill up the wheel well without any rubbing at all, not lift, no washers, no bump stop issue etc required. I just want a bigger and wider tire with no additional required modifications.

3. I thought about new wheels or even Rubi take offs that I could find for $1000 but they have MT tires on them. But then what kind of hassel am I going to deal with trying to get ride of the steel 16 inchers with tires mounted on them? Keeping the stock steel wheel gives me back tires off the wheel ready to sell by themselves.

Specs of stock tire and Firestone

Stock wheel diameter 29.29" Firestone diameter 31.65"
Stock tire width of 8.86" Firestone width 10.43"
Stock tire weight 27 lbs each Firestone weight 42 lbs

I am surprised to find no difference in road noise between the two tires at highway speeds. The wider grip makes for better traction on the streets. And the overall ride quality is an improvement with the new tire. I have an auto with 3.73 gears and feel no noticeable difference in acceleration but I can tell the shift points are a little off now. I already have the procal ordered and it is on the way. Now when I ding up the wheels on rocks it will not matter because I did not buy expensive nice looking aluminum aftermarket wheels.

I don't have brand loyalty to a tire manufacture but I choose the Firestone destination A/T based on the price of $123 each tire, it was the highest rated tire on tirerack.com, and consumer reports had it equal to the bridgestone revo 2 ($155 tire) and michelin LTX ($215 tire). When all was said and done 5 new tires, lifetime balance and road hazzard warranty and other fees was $895.

I have read about other people having issuse with the TPMS light and resetting issues. I had no issues, I got in the Jeep, started it up and drove off. No issues and the pressure readings were transmitting like they always have. No unwanted flashing lights or pressure reading issues, all is good.

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Is there a noticeable difference in ride heights as well??? Is there a particular reason you choose that tire size as opposed to any of the other 30" - 33" tires???

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Is there a noticeable difference in ride heights as well??? Is there a particular reason you choose that tire size as opposed to any of the other 30" - 33" tires???
The tire raises the height just over an inch, an slight but noticeable to everyone climbing in the first time after being use to the stock wheels.

Room in my garage is tite so I needed for the larger tire to stay completely under the wheel well. This includes the tread as well as the side wall that is always wider. The 31.65" tires of the P265/75R16 fit the bill for my needs. And once you get into 85 series tires the selection is scarce, and 285 wide (or wider) tires on stock steelies I have read that you get into rubbing when articulated thereby requiring some type of another modification (lift, spacers, washers, bump stop etc.).

Plus the larger the tire the heavier it will be so you will feel it on acceleration depending on the final transmission ratio ratio you have. Bigger tires will also hit you on mpg. Loosing a mile per gallon is ok with me but it also means the fuel tank range takes a hit and fill ups will come more often. Even more of a factor for 2door JKs that have a tank that is already 4 gallons smaller than a ultimate. Just other factors to consider with a tire upgrade.

A mild upgrade for me and my needs lead me to the P265/75R16. Very happy with the change, look, feel, performance, and no hassle change.
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I see new rims in your future lol. I did the same as you, after I bought it I drove to the tire store and I put on 245's on the stock rims about a month later went to 265's on stock rims and a month after that went in got new 16X8 rims with 4.5" back spacing and then decided to go with 285/75-16's. I have not lost mpg I did recalibrate with each change using the procal.. Actually with the 4.5" backspacing and 265/75's it made a huge improvement in looks and still kept everything inside the fenders.
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I see new rims in your future lol......
No doubt you are correct about the new wheel future. Nice pic of what you have put together.
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I just went with same combo today, but with Cooper ATP on my 2 dr jk sport. Only made it one week and 200 miles before the change, but that's only because I had I bought it last week and had to get to payday this week. Told wife when we drove off the lot that those chincy stockers were gone.
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I love the look and now can't wait to get my 16x8 wheels
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I have 3.21's and haven't noticed a difference in driving either other than more stability.
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Did the spare fit fine on the stock holder?
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Did the spare fit fine on the stock holder?
Yup, fit on there with no problem. There is one inch clearance from the top of the tire and the 3rd brake light, and one inch clearance to the top of the bumper.
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Ok you have had them for a couple of weeks now what is your opinion of them now??? Are they nosier? How does it handle compared to before? Do you think you will upgrade rims and go to a bigger size later???
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Ok you have had them for a couple of weeks now what is your opinion of them now??? Are they nosier? How does it handle compared to before? Do you think you will upgrade rims and go to a bigger size later???
Still very happy with the change. They are absolutely NOT nosier by any means. The handling is better in every way and the Jeep feels stable. The ride is much smoother because there is more tire to absorb the road imperfections. The wet weather grip is better, no sliding on turns, the ABS does not kick in on hard braking like the stock tires would on wet streets. Gas mileage did not change with the heavier, wider and taller tires.

I can see going to a 33" as a max size (with a change in rims/tire size) in the future but I don't feel like I made a mistake with the choice I made last month. This is my daily driver and I don't have any desire to build a rock crawler. Fire roads and desert cruising for me on occasion. I am registered for the jeep jamboree in Moab next month so I will get a better idea of what I have (or need).
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Still very happy with the change. They are absolutely NOT nosier by any means. The handling is better in every way and the Jeep feels stable. The ride is much smoother because there is more tire to absorb the road imperfections. The wet weather grip is better, no sliding on turns, the ABS does not kick in on hard braking like the stock tires would on wet streets. Gas mileage did not change with the heavier, wider and taller tires.

I can see going to a 33" as a max size (with a change in rims/tire size) in the future but I don't feel like I made a mistake with the choice I made last month. This is my daily driver and I don't have any desire to build a rock crawler. Fire roads and desert cruising for me on occasion. I am registered for the jeep jamboree in Moab next month so I will get a better idea of what I have (or need).
I saw this thread while researching because I'm going to 265 from 245. My only concern was the rubbing when turning. Did you have issues with this? Thanks for your help.
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I saw this thread while researching because I'm going to 265 from 245. My only concern was the rubbing when turning. Did you have issues with this? Thanks for your help.
There is no rubbing at all, at least with a JK. Plenty of room in there.
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There is no rubbing at all, at least with a JK. Plenty of room in there.
I have a 2007 JK. Great that's good news. Thanks for your help.
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okay so following this thread. pretty much doing the same... currently have the P225/75R16 good year tires on my '14 Black JK Unlimited and want to get/"upgrade" to the Firestone Destination AT 285/75R16, but still use my stock jeep 16x17 inch lux styled steel wheels... understood through this thread all is safe...

now questions... do i need to get tire spacers?

didn't mention tire spacing, but just wanted to make sure.
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Thank you for the detailed review of the 265/75R16 all terrain tire. I'm planning to do the same to my Wrangler too. We had some heavy down pour here in Bay Area back in December, and the stock tire just wasn't holding up in the rain.
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Old 02-15-2015, 11:41 PM   #18
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Glad this topic can help.
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One question, did you inflated the new bigger tires to a PSI that's different than what the stickers recommended on the driver's side door? I went to Goodyear the other day, and their sells representative was telling me that they always inflate the tire to the manufacture recommendation no matter what size of tire they put on the vehicle. I was kind of doubt that would be the right thing to do, since the volume of the tire would be changed with bigger ones, thus the PSI changes. I'm wondering what did you do, and if my theory is correct? (I haven't found any answer on the internet to this question yet.) Thanks a lot!
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What if you decide to put on a LT265/75 16" tire. That tire has a max inflation of 80psi due to its construction. The sticker says to run 35psi, I don't think that's a good combo for a Lt rated tire. I would run the tire manufacture info as a starting guide not the door sticker.
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What if you decide to put on a LT265/75 16" tire. That tire has a max inflation of 80psi due to its construction. The sticker says to run 35psi, I don't think that's a good combo for a Lt rated tire. I would run the tire manufacture info as a starting guide not the door sticker.
As you stated, 80psi is the max inflation for a Load E tire, not a universal inflation recommendation. You must take into consideration the weight of the vehicle the tires are running on to determine the ideal inflation number. This is why so many people espouse using the chalk test to assess your contact patch. I contacted Cooper about using LT235/85r16 tires on a 2-door JK Sport, and they recommended 35psi. Many tire manufacturers provide a chart for Load E inflation recommendations according to vehicle weight (only problem is the Gross Vehicle Weight of a 2dr is well below the lowest threshold they have listed!). It's my understanding that the inflation recommendations on the door pillar provided by the vehicle manufacturer are structured around this vehicle weight principle (and likely more stuff I don't understand).
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Thank you guys for the answers! Megawatt308, Now I'm pretty much decided to go with the Firestone Destination A/T tires you have on your JKU in 265/75R16. I'm wondering if you are running the LT (Light Truck) tires or the P (Passenger) rated tires? What tire pressure are you running at? And how do you like the tires now that you've been using them for more than a year? Thank you very much!
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Hey freeaswind, I am running P series. They are 37 psi cold. In 20 months of driving I have put on 27,400 miles. 85% highway miles with 75 mile round trip for work days. Average 17.62 miles per gallon since I put on theses tires. Mileage calculated using iPhone app "MPG tracker" so this number is not from jeep computer. Still happy with the tires, no issues to date, still lots of meat on the threads.
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Thanks a lot, One question I forgot to ask, how many MPG did you lost by switching to these bigger tires? It is one of my concern because my JK is only doing 16 MPG combined (20% City and 80% Freeway), reason might be that I live in San Francisco. (I took it to dealer and the dealer said that it's fine, but I'm not totally convinced.)
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New tire on August 2013 so I was getting low of 16.78 and high of 19.12 mpg. Now I get 17.47 mpg average. I used a AEV procal for new tire dimensions so shift points on my auto are correct. So I would have to say I did not see any real noticeable difference going to this new size. You have to remember to change the computer for the new tire size or any gas mileage you look at will not be true numbers.

Off the top of my head I think the rpm dropped 400rpm at 70mph with the new tires. 2400rpm (still in the green line on tach) at 70 mph with my 3.73 ratio auto trans for comparison.
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Oops forgot to add. Just did Parker, AZ jeep jamboree and at 28k miles I am starting to see minor chunking on the edge of the tread for the tires. Nothing of concern but life starting to show on the Firestone destinations.
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Thank you! I just ordered the AEV Procal, and I contacted Firestone about those tires, hopefully I will be able to get the tires installed next week.
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Megawatt308, I got the tires! Thanks a lot for the help!

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Nice, glad it worked out for you.

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