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Old 07-06-2011, 07:39 PM   #1
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Arrow Stock tires on 08 JK Sahara.

Hopefully I am putting this in the right spot and can make this question make sense. I just bought a certified 08 Sahara Unlimited and the wife is ok with me making it the way I want it as long as she can still gt in without ladders. Lol.

This came with stock 18 inch ( pretty sure, going out to look again....) rims with Bridgestone P255/70R18s, but they are so "blah" and skinny. I won't be doing any thing outside of taking it camping, fishing, or doing the smaller trails with my son, no major climbing or mudding. Are there any decent tires I can swap out that can leave the stock rims on which would NOT require any flare or arm cutting, suspension / gear or lifting? Somethng less boring, I guess.

Some day I'll get the bushwacker flares and powder coated rims, but after these tires have spent their usefulness. For now, this will make me happy, I just don't like the lack of oomph with these wheels, just not feeling them.



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08 Sahara

I recently purchased the same Jeep and left the stock rims but installed Good Year 285/65/18 with wheel spacers and a 2" leveling kit and the jeep rides nice and the tires are quiet. I'm real happy with what I've done. I got 19.9 miles to the gallon on a trip, so it didn't change my fuel consumption either. Just my 2cents!

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Have a pic? I'm still trying to avoid lifts for now, but that seems doable. Btw, every time we take I think 40 to NJ my wife screams TuckaHOE! when we cross that area. Not a clue why, nor do I think she is being original. Lol
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Old 07-06-2011, 08:09 PM   #4
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Nm, just figured out what the profile button is for. Very nice. Expensive?
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leveling kit and spacers

The leveling kit was $142.00 and the wheel spacers were $222.00 shipped from Quadratec. Plus I paid to have the stuff installed but that was only a couple hundred bucks when I had the tires installed.
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Not bad. I am trying to picture it on a 4 door, but I like it and not too pricey.
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Anyone else have any ideas? Thanks!
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what kind of tire are you looking for? all terrain? or something more aggressive like mud terrain?
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Is there a middle ground? These stocks are too skinny. Plenty tall, but not wide / nobby enough.
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do you want tires in the same size?
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Not necessarily. And I apologize up front for not knowing all of the terminology. I like the height, but the width is what is seems to be missing. The existing Bridgestone Dualers are nice looking , but it's the lack of side profile / width I don't like. I am on some sites trying to learn what I can do with the existing 18 inch rims but it's slim pickings. I see some of the jeeps on here that are also TJ U models that have great looking wheels, bit it looks like they all have lifts and anything but stock rims.
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Old 07-07-2011, 04:17 PM   #12
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Buy a set of 15" wheels (that fit--got to make sure you go with the right ones as some rub the brake calipers) and a set of Goodyear DuraTracs in 33/12.5/15. Then sell your stock wheels and tires on Craigslist.

Believe it or not, that will cost much LESS than buying new tires for your current wheels. It'll definitely cost less than buying spacers and new tires for your current wheels.

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Thanks. So smaller rims will give me more play in the tire world and wheel wells? I like that idea.
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Thanks. So smaller rims will give me more play in the tire world and wheel wells? I like that idea.
"Wheels," jeeps have "wheels." Honda Civics have "rims." So says me, anyway.

Not sure what you mean by "more play." Tires are cheaper for smaller wheels, and smaller wheels themselves are cheaper than big wheels.

For example, the 33" DuraTracs I suggested earlier are about $170 each for a 15" wheel, whereas 33" DuraTracs for your current wheels would be about $275 each. Many 15" wheels are about $100 each. So, using those DuraTracs your choices would look like this:

(1) Get new wheels/tires. $500 for new wheels + $850 in tires = $1350. Then you sell your current wheels/tires on Craigslist and get a few hundred back. Or . . .

(2) Keep your current wheels and just get new tires. $1375 for tires plus $200 for spacers = $1575. Then maybe get a little something for your old tires.

Which looks like a better deal to you?

The problem with slightly bigger tires (33" as opposed to the 32" ones you have now) is that they'll rub on items near the interior of your wheel wells when you make turns.

The two principal ways to correct this are a "spacer" or wheels with less "backspacing." Here's some info on what all that means.

Finally, you should know that a bigger tire will also likely rub your fenders if you "stuff" the wheel deeply while offroading. To correct this, you need a lift. However, 33s aren't likely to do this too badly and, in any event, "budget boost" lift kits are cheap. A lot cheaper than new wheels/tires.
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Gotcha. I have much to learn.
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I should also mention if it wasn't clear that when one gets new wheels, you generally get them with proper backspacing so as to not need spacers to accomodate bigger tires. By contrast, the stock wheels do need spacers to accomodate bigger tires. That's why my option "(1)" above didn't include spacers, whereas option "(2)" did.
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Bigger Tires

Last year I had a 2.5" lift put on my JK and added 33" Mickey Thompson ATZ's, but made the mistake of not getting new wheels. Big mistake. The tires rub the wheel wells in tight turns, and I believe it has to do with the backspacing on the factory wheels.

I am upgrading it further now to 35" MT MTZ's with a 3" lift, but the key is I am getting new wheels with 4.5" backspacing. The tires themselves (the 33's) are great thought. Plenty wide, good performance. MT's are on the expensive side though, so maybe BFG would work. If you are going to get bigger tires, I would suggest ensuring you can fork out a bit extra and get wheels with proper spacing etc.
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Hopefully I am putting this in the right spot and can make this question make sense. I just bought a certified 08 Sahara Unlimited and the wife is ok with me making it the way I want it as long as she can still gt in without ladders. Lol.

This came with stock 18 inch ( pretty sure, going out to look again....) rims with Bridgestone P255/70R18s, but they are so "blah" and skinny. I won't be doing any thing outside of taking it camping, fishing, or doing the smaller trails with my son, no major climbing or mudding. Are there any decent tires I can swap out that can leave the stock rims on which would NOT require any flare or arm cutting, suspension / gear or lifting? Somethng less boring, I guess.

Some day I'll get the bushwacker flares and powder coated rims, but after these tires have spent their usefulness. For now, this will make me happy, I just don't like the lack of oomph with these wheels, just not feeling them.



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Your Sahara will fit 33" tires stock.

With your factory wheel dimensions (18x7.5 +45 ((6" BS)), the ideal tire size to go with is 275/70-18. This size should work with little to no rubbing.

Here's the link with all the tire models we offer in this size.

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Based on what you will be doing with your JK, I suggest taking a close look at the Hankook DynaPro ATM RF10.
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Will do, just prioritizing now, I will be in touch at some point.
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If you want to stick with the stock rims, I suggest you look at BF Goodrich AT tires. I replaced the stock tires with the same size BFGs on my TJ, and they look much more aggressive.
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Another option is to keep an eye out for a set of take offs from a newer Rubicon. I foun a set of 5 wheels and tires with 80% tread still left for $500.
They are 17" wheels with a slightly taller tire. They are the same overall diameter as the stock Sahara tires, but with a more agressive tead. You can sell off your stock set or ,as I did, keep them. This way you have a Summer/street set and a Winter/trail set. Being a Phillies fan, I assume you see snow in the Winter.
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I'm in the same exact model, 08 JK Sahara, same tires. I've put 9k now for total of 25k miles and the Bridgestones are getting more worn. I don't want a lift/spacers/etc/other rims, I like the stance as it is.

Not completely decided but I'm looking hard at these:

My local tire guy says his size will fit no problem. Will be a couple more months before I make the switch but I'll post my results.

Good luck. Don't be in a hurry to dump what you have yet, they do have their advantages. Plus there's so many Jeepers passing for other choices, that I found a NEW set for a notch over $600...but the big deal was IF I wanted them....so far, no....after more bite.

We'll see.
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My wife blew a tire the other day which sped up my need for new tires. I had all but decided on BFG's (I've had them before on a Suburban and loved them) but ultimately decided on the Goodyear DuraTrac. I went with 275/65/18 to get a more meaty look without going taller and impacting the speedo. So far so good. Love the tires. WAY quieter than I expected and feel just as good as the BFG's did.
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New vs old...


tread with a quarter in the tread. Very quiet for as aggressive as the tread is...


The size is 275/65/18 which is the same height as the stock wheel (the pic doesn't really look like it but it really is). I didn't go larger because my wife drives the Jeep as her dd and I didn't want the speedo off.
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the tread looks like you almost have to be in 4L just to get rolling....

With this size, no rubbing issues at all?
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Impressive. Those fit stock 19s ?

Wait, now I forgot. 18s.
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The size is 275/65/18 which is the same height as the stock wheel (the pic doesn't really look like it but it really is). I didn't go larger because my wife drives the Jeep as her dd and I didn't want the speedo off.
This is the look I'm looking for, too.

Anyone have any input on the Falken tires? I've used them twice on my Honda S2000 and loved every mile I put on those tires, excellent traction, hard but not too hard sidewalls, just an all around great tire and just wondered how their tires were for the Jeep.

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