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Old 02-19-2014, 01:35 PM   #151
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Have my set of 5, one new, others have about 1500 miles on them... Selling to switch it up.. 285/75/18..measure true 34 inches installed. Paid 1500..make a reasonable offer... In Kansas City but will be Phoenix after March 1. Never been off road.. Shoot me a message

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Have my set of 5, one new, others have about 1500 miles on them... Selling to switch it up.. 285/75/18..measure true 34 inches installed. Paid 1500..make a reasonable offer... In Kansas City but will be Phoenix after March 1. Never been off road.. Shoot me a message
might slap this on the pizza cutters unite thread. What are you going with?

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might slap this on the pizza cutters unite thread. What are you going with?
I thinking of going back close to stock tires, my commute is going way up next month... Not 100 percent decided yet, was trying to see if there was any interest first.
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Sorry don't mean to hi-jack the thread but has anyone in this thread ever owned both Duratracs and the Toyo AT2. I'm undecided on which to purchase, I have a long commute to work but it's only twice a week so noise isn't a factor unless one is significantly louder than the other. I drive a 2013 JKU Sahara. any advice would be appreciated
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Got rid of the stock MT at 100 miles. AT'2 are much quieter and with the lift the ride is better also. Taken them out in the desert a couple of times now and barely spin a tire. With the lockers they will crawl up some pretty steep stuff. Running them at 32lb right now but I think 28 will be better for the 2 dr.
Aired them to 18 lbs for a long wheeling trip and yesterday ran them at street pressures. Harder ride in the rocks when not aired down. Ran in 2wd most of the time even in deep sand. I thought I was going to stick it once as I got caught in some soft and deep while in 2wd. A little more gas and they started to spin a bit and popped right up on top and away we went. They were not air down either. So far very impressed. The 35's do tend to follow groves on the road but find me a 35 that doesn't.
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lately I have been running mine at 26-27lbs on my 14 rubicon unlimited and that is about right, I was at 28-30 but I keep dropping them down to see how they will do and so far no difference around town in mpg. They definitely feel better on the highway at lower psi as far as handling goes.. headed to Moab in less then a week and will have them down around 15lbs for that. It is a 750 mile road trip down so I will probably pump them up to mid 30's for the trip down and back.
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Installed my 285/75r18 toyo open country at 2's. Installed measure exactly 34" tall, this is with a TF leveling kit and 1.5" wheel spacers. I have a 2.5" lift waiting to be installed. I do rub on the plastic air damn only at full turn... But I sure wouldn't do any trails as is. Spare won't fit on carrier either without a spacer or extension.
Price out the smittybuilt oversized tire carrier. It's cheap and it lines up with the existing holes. Especially if your going to decide to go with a better bumper later on with an attached swinging carrier or something.
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Recently many have been asking about these tires. Since they are basically new to the market, there has not been so many reviews on them on their performance offroad. From my experience with them, they have been the most quietest, if not the quitest tires i have ever owned and they are my first a/t tire. My street tires from previous vehicles i owned in the past were much louder. Appearance - its just a combination of beauty and strength. Aggressive tread pattern and broad shoulders. Size/Weight...i'm gonna list the most current sizes the community uses as well as their lightest tire per size. There are 15' tires, but the 33's or even 35's aren't listed and i'm not sure if they make em in that size. Warranty - 65k for the P rated, and 50k on LT. LT285/75/16 E 52.9lbs LT295/75/16 E 63.7lbs LT305/70/16 E 67.9lbs LT315/75/16 E 71.7lbs P285/70/17 48lbs LT285/70/17 E 50.5lbs 35x12.5 E 69.9lbs LT285/75/18 E 65lbs 35x12.5/18 E 80.7lbs Price - Of course pricing varies, but to give u a rundown of prices and perspectives for 285/70/17, duratracs are around 270, falken wild peaks 200, and toyo at2 220. If you have toyo at2, please feel free to comment and add your own reviews. Pictures do not do the tire any justice. It looks more bulky and aggressive in person.
I recently purchased 275/65 r18s for my 14 Sahara 4d. Here is my input:

They come in four varieties: P 4ply, LT 6ply, LT 10ply, and LT 10 ply extreme

-p ride the best, have a less aggressive side wall, shallower tread, and 65k tread warranty
-LT 6ply have a more aggressive side wall and deep tread with 50k tread warranty
-LT 10 ply have a more aggressive side wall and deep tread with 50k tread warranty
-LT 10 ply extreme have the most aggressive side wall and deepest tread, but they are only available in select sizes. Not sure about warranty.

10 ply will have a huge affect on ride, (rougher) but will be more durable for off road puncture hazards
I chose the 6 ply because I wanted a more aggressive look than the P rated tire offered. The ride is stiffer, but not in a bad way. I'm at 35 psi, but I could go a little lower if I wanted. 10 ply tires are really designed for a much heavier vehicle like an F250. Jeeps are light. Keep this in mind when shopping. I think the 6 ply LT is the perfect jeep AT tire due to the jeep's weight.

I have no lift and my tires do not rub even at full lock to the right. These tires are 10.8 wide vs the stock at 10 wide. That only closes the inside gap by 0.4 inches. One thing that is largely different is tread width. Stock duelers were just over 7.6 tread width. Although the section width is only .8 wider the tread width is 9 which is an increase of around 1.4 inches.

I chose 275/65s because that aspect ratio kept me at the stock 32 inch height...not messing with my speedo. My tires are still under the fenders. I have about another 3/4 inch before I am flush with the TOP of the fender. I may add a spacer to widen the stance a bit (cosmetic only). I believe fenders serve a purpose, so if I go wider I'm getting new fenders!

Lifts are to keep articulation with larger tire diameter (which add clearance) (and look awesome). Since these tires fill the fender well a little more I would love an inch or two of lift...but thEn I would just want taller tires creating the never ending conundrum.

Another note on performance: I have max tow so lower gear ratio, etc. I can definitely tell these are heavier tires when accelerating from a stop...but I didn't buy a jeep to drag race.

I think these tires will be terrible for mud (but hey, they aren't MTs) due to the small gaps in the tread from front to back. Side gaps are much wider. Having said that I have been OK in the red clay mud at my hunting camp...and it's sticky.

I hope this info is helpful. Some of this info was missing in the forum. I'm new to this, but I'm an OCD shopper. I hope my time researching has helped.
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285/70r17 toyo milage effects?

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I have been reading up on this tire, and was ready to purchase in the same size as my winter tire (265/17r17), but then I saw a rubicon U with them mounted, and they seemed quite a bit smaller and didn't fill out the wheel wells. I measured, and mine hankook ipike in the same size was over .5 wider and taller.
So, thinking of going to the next size up.
but,
I tried the 285/70r17 duratrac briefly at the rec of discount tire, and I really didn't like them. It was an E tire, so 53lbs, but power, handling, and steering precision all went way down. And, I went from getting 19.5 to 15.5 mpg w/ those. So i got rid of them.

it seems the toyos are less aggressive, come in a P, so lighter, and may even be smaller.

So, any real world gas milage effects of going 285/70 r 17 w this tire, and power drain?

Thx for any input.

It will be a summer tire, studs on ipike in winter, i drive 500 miles a week, and will do a few off road adventure this summer, but little mud or sand, mostly mtn. roads and rocks.

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OK,
I have been reading up on this tire, and was ready to purchase in the same size as my winter tire (265/17r17), but then I saw a rubicon U with them mounted, and they seemed quite a bit smaller and didn't fill out the wheel wells. I measured, and mine hankook ipike in the same size was over .5 wider and taller.
So, thinking of going to the next size up.
but,
I tried the 285/70r17 duratrac briefly at the rec of discount tire, and I really didn't like them. It was an E tire, so 53lbs, but power, handling, and steering precision all went way down. And, I went from getting 19.5 to 15.5 mpg w/ those. So i got rid of them.

it seems the toyos are less aggressive, come in a P, so lighter, and may even be smaller.

So, any real world gas milage effects of going 285/70 r 17 w this tire, and power drain?

Thx for any input.

It will be a summer tire, studs on ipike in winter, i drive 500 miles a week, and will do a few off road adventure this summer, but little mud or sand, mostly mtn. roads and rocks.

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OK, still nothing? Seems lots are running the 285/70r17 in the Pmetric.
Any help?

I do have 3.73 gears w/ the max tow if that helps.

as stated, the lt 285/70r17 duratrac in the E was not good on it. Much slower and less fun to drive, and 20% drop in mpg as well. Seems the toyo is less aggressive 5lbs lighter per tire, may not be nearly the same issue I had w/ the gy.

I know they have the 500mi guarantee, but would like the best data I could get before pulling the trigger.

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Old 03-26-2014, 06:29 PM   #161
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I can tell you, I put on the 285/75r18 and it definitely takes some power away and mpg took a hit as well. I have a 13, automatic. Ride is pretty quiet, but firm. Like the looks but pretty sure I would look at others next time. Just my. 02. I have a set of 5 if you want to buy like new
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I can tell you, I put on the 285/75r18 and it definitely takes some power away and mpg took a hit as well. I have a 13, automatic. Ride is pretty quiet, but firm. Like the looks but pretty sure I would look at others next time. Just my. 02. I have a set of 5 if you want to buy like new
Thx for the experience.

yours are even bigger. 34.8 x 11.8, so I would think that would be a big hit, and probably LT e rated as well.

the 285/70r17 is 32.7 x 11.4, and in hte P is 48lbs.

i still think i'll probably stay w/ the smaller ones. I hate the feeling of tires stealing the power.

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Extremely helpful thread, thanks. Sorry to hijack a bit...

Was contemplating buying my first ever Jeep this weekend('02 Sport automatic), but pretty much gave up on the idea of owning a TJ after this test drive. The road noise on the test drive was maddening at 50mph+. The GY Wranglers with uneven wear made it difficult to talk and it would be unbearable with even just the windows down, or god forbid the top/doors off. I went into this test drive expecting body creaks and wind noise to be the issue, but heard almost none. 90% of the noise was coming from the tires even at low speed. Is that standard for a TJ?

This thread is bringing me back around. If I can get a good enough deal, I may make the leap, slap 4 Toyo AT2 31's on, get a good alignment and hope for the best.

If anyone can add personal opinion here, I'd appreciate it.

Do you find yourself able to reasonably converse in a hardtop TJ going 50mph on good pavement?

Sounds to me like these Toyo AT2's are slightly quieter on the street than the BFG T/A KO's that everyone loves. Would you say that's correct?
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Can't say for a tj, but my jk with either top I don't hear much at all about 10k on mine now
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I've got exactly 1 year in(~8k), extremely quiet tire for an aggressive AT. Even with the doors off on the hwy. They don't scallop like other treads, which causes them to get louder as you rack up the miles.
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Hello,

Could you guys please help me decide if i should get AT2 or HT ?
Never seen how they look and tbh this is my first wrangler
I drive 90% on street and highways (long commute sadly)
Aiming for good mpg But i still want a good looking tire...

Toyo AT2 285/70R17 P 49 lbs

Toyo HT 285/70R17 T 44.6 lbs

Hell, i'm adding AT2 285/65/R18 also, would my MPG drop hard with this tire compared to the other 2?

Thank you
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Old 08-30-2014, 06:00 PM   #167
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I had toyo at2 on my previous jeep. I managed to lose VERY MINIMAL mpg going from stock 29/steelies to 285/70/17 p metric. Wears evenly and quiet!! Many users using the larger sizes say it's quiet as well. A great all around daily driver/weekend warrior use. I took mine in all weather situation except for deep mud.

Also, toyo has great customer service. I was able to get 50% off a tire/mounting/balancing when I managed to puncture my sidewall (my fault).

I will be getting these tires again once my oem Bfg mt's wear in my willys. Nitto is also coming out with new all terrains that you might wanna take a look at.
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Hey Guys,

Just purchased the Toyos ATII in 285/75/17's. I am assuming the Fuel Anza wheels with 5.0 BS will be okay with these tires. Thoughts?
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Just purchased the Toyos ATII in 285/75/17's. I am assuming the Fuel Anza wheels with 5.0 BS will be okay with these tires. Thoughts?
I have no problems running 5.2" backspacing with them so you should be fine.
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Great! Thanks jadmt. Looked at some of your pic's. Look's like the tires don't stick out much outside the fender flare, which is what I am looking for...
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I know what tire I am getting. I will stick with my stock size of 225/75R15 for now. These tires seem that they will look good and function better in any size. Going to be pricey but worth it for 5 tires.

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I went with the Nitto Terra Grapplers, made by Toyo, totally dissatisfied with the Nitto's. I wish I would have gone with the Toyo ATII's. Nittos are very noisy on the highway and when below 40 still tire buzz. These are P rated tires. Should have went Toyo.
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^im not sure if nitto has a return policy like toyo. Test it out for 500 miles and if you don't like em, get your money back.
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I had toyo at2 on my previous jeep. I managed to lose VERY MINIMAL mpg going from stock 29/steelies to 285/70/17 p metric. Wears evenly and quiet!! Many users using the larger sizes say it's quiet as well. A great all around daily driver/weekend warrior use. I took mine in all weather situation except for deep mud.

Also, toyo has great customer service. I was able to get 50% off a tire/mounting/balancing when I managed to puncture my sidewall (my fault).

I will be getting these tires again once my oem Bfg mt's wear in my willys. Nitto is also coming out with new all terrains that you might wanna take a look at.
Did you get the darting issue with the 285"s? I took my Toyo 305's off and put on 265 studded snow tires and couldn't believe the driving difference. I guess I was so used to the Jeep driving experience that I thought they all had darting issues. We bought ours with the 305's already installed. The 265's really made my DD a real pleasure. Now I'm thinking of selling the 305's next spring and going to the P 285/70/17, but I don't want to go back to the darting I experienced with the 305's.
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Just got my 285/75/16. Big drag on performance (almost as slow as my 2008 with stock tires). Will reprogramming for the larger tire size improve much? Do people use their dealer or get a programmer/tuner. For a 2015 JKU Sport.
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I liked my at2's so much I bought another set this time in 35x12.5-17 I can report that no issues with 4.10 gears and auto. running 26psi seems about perfect. My set of 285/75-17 were made in the USA these ones are made in Japan and pretty fresh as made 39th week of 14. one wheel took 3/4 of an ounce to balance and one took 4.5 ounces to balance and the others 3 took 2-3 ounces. Not bad for a 100lb tire wheel combo.


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^3rd set already and this time 35's lol!! looks great.
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^3rd set already and this time 35's lol!! looks great.
it is a sickness lol. actually my 4th set of at2's I had 285/75-16 on my last wrangler. No 37's I promise.
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im really loving the sound of this tire setup. i drive on highway alot and i also like to offroad on my days off. im going to be buying a 3 inch lift and some better fenders. But i have a couple questions ? i wanna keep my stock 17inch wheels on my sport jku 2014 and powercoat them black. But i know the stock 17 wheels back space is short. so what size wheel spacer will i need and is there anything else i need. im going to buy my tire first
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it is a sickness lol. actually my 4th set of at2's I had 285/75-16 on my last wrangler. No 37's I promise.
I'll be cashing out on my profit share from work by the end of January. Very likely i'll be getting the 35's just like you.

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im really loving the sound of this tire setup. i drive on highway alot and i also like to offroad on my days off. im going to be buying a 3 inch lift and some better fenders. But i have a couple questions ? i wanna keep my stock 17inch wheels on my sport jku 2014 and powercoat them black. But i know the stock 17 wheels back space is short. so what size wheel spacer will i need and is there anything else i need. im going to buy my tire first
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