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Old 11-07-2013, 10:42 AM   #1
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Winter Tire Size/Brand Advice

I've got a second set of factory wheels for a dedicated winter tire setup. I'm just trying to figure out which setup to go with and wouldn't mind some feedback.

I've attached a chart with a few winter tire options. I'm leaning towards the Blizzaks or the IG51V.

Two questions.

If I stick with the original 255/75R17 tire size, then there's no speedo-/odometer issues. How concerned should I be that the pro-rated max load for the Blizzaks is less than the max load of the original tires?

If I go with the 265/70R17 tire size, would I need to reprogram the Jeep for the small change in tire diameter?

Thanks.
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Here's a pic of the chart in the first post.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:56 PM   #3
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No, 265/70/17 is fine. I run 265/70/17 Duratracs and my speedo is off .9MPH @ 70MPH.
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I had a set of General Altimax Arctic put on my wifes car and the first few snow storms in Michigan she came home complaining how slow all the other cars were and that she had no problem with ice or snow. I had to remind her she had winter tires and most cars don't.
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:12 PM   #5
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No, 265/70/17 is fine. I run 265/70/17 Duratracs and my speedo is off .9MPH @ 70MPH.
Good to know since I can't find any 255s anywhere locally. Thanks!
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I had a set of General Altimax Arctic put on my wifes car and the first few snow storms in Michigan she came home complaining how slow all the other cars were and that she had no problem with ice or snow. I had to remind her she had winter tires and most cars don't.
Those Arctics look like a good tire but I ended up going with the Blizzaks. Both cost roughly the same and the Blizzaks always seem highly recommended so it was a no brainer to get them.
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Old 11-08-2013, 02:25 AM   #7
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+1 on Duratracs. I've heard lots of positive feedback about their winter performance.
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Old 11-08-2013, 09:04 AM   #8
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+1 on Duratracs. I've heard lots of positive feedback about their winter performance.
Definitely lots of love for Duratracs here. These will probably be my tire of choice when it comes time to replace the original BFGoodrichs.
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Those Arctics look like a good tire but I ended up going with the Blizzaks. Both cost roughly the same and the Blizzaks always seem highly recommended so it was a no brainer to get them.
I have Michelin X-ice2s on my other vehicles but went with the General Arctics on the Jeep.

That decision was to gain some snow traction as the Michelins are so so in the snow but fantastic on ice.

Looking at the Arctics they will clearly be better in snow but have way fewer sipes compared to the Michelin's and I expect them to be quite a bit worse on ice (for a winter ice tire).

If the difference is huge I will change over to the Blizzaks but I am optimistic that they will be fine.

I didn't go with studs because I don't like the damage they do to the concrete.




I would love to see a test comparing the following:

Duratracs
Duratracs studded
General arctic
General arctic studded
Blizzaks
Nokian Hakka 7
Nokian Hakka 7 studded.

I had a set of Hakka 5 studded in my Subaru and hands down they were the best winter tire I have used.

Made every other car look like they had hockey pucks on for tires.
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:29 PM   #10
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I just got the 265/70R17 Blizzaks put on today. Not too bad looking as far as winter tires go. I kind of feel like I neutered the jeep a little with the less beefy looking tires though but I had to go with the dedicated winter tire set up. With great weight comes great responsibility... to stop!

I believe Yosemite Sam also imparts great wisdom when he coined the phrase, "When I says 'whoa', I means 'WHOA'!"

I'll share how these tires do as the winter season progresses once I put some mileage on them.
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Go with the same size tire or go one size narrower. Get studded if possible. There will be tons of opinions on this just like oil threads.....But I will say Nokian Haakapellitta studded tires are IMHO the best......I love driving in the snow and ice and haven't gotten stuck or gone skidding since 1980. I swear by them.
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Yes, when studded the Hakka 7 are the best you can get, they perform great in both ice and snow.

Myself I went with the Blizzak DM-V1, which I think are the best un-studded.

The Michelin X-Ice xi-2 or xi-3 are always ranking at the top as well, but they are only good for hard packed snow and ice, they are not deep snow tires.

I like also the General Altimax when studded, I don't know how they are without studs.

I'll come back with comments about the DM-V1 ,when I'll have go through different conditions.

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The Michelin X-Ice xi-2 or xi-3 are always ranking at the top as well, but they are only good for hard packed snow and ice, they are not deep snow tires.

I like also the General Altimax when studded, I don't know how they are without studs.
100% correct about the Michelins being poor snow tires. They are amazing in the packed snow setting, and quite so so in deep snow. Compared to an all-season they were much much better in deep snow but gave a lot to be desired compared to other winter tires.

I went with the Arctic Altimax unstudded, and am looking forward to better deep snow traction and average (for a winter tire) ice traction.
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My wife had these Altimax Artic on her Ford Focus, indeed that had real good snow traction, great tread life, and I liked how they were predictable. They also were good in slush, where the Michelin have trouble also in that stuff.
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Snow forecast in the coming days, so I installed my Blizzak DM-V1.
Damn it changed the look over my MT tires, it looks so, ..., skinny and road tire look. But at least I can say that they are performing very nicely on dry and wet road and country dirt/gravel roads. A lot more quiet than my Destination MTs, comfortable, nice handling and easier on gas.
Now waiting for winter conditions in the next few days to report more. Up to now, except for the less agressive look, they are very nice.
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We got almost a foot of snow today, these Blizzak are just great, it's like if I was running on dry pavement. The JK will be a snow monster.

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Old 11-27-2013, 10:32 AM   #17
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Honestly, if it were me and I were in OP situation (that is that I had a second set of rims for tires)....yes would surely add a "True Snow Tire" not just an AT. (probably Blizzaks) I mean I really like my Duratracs but in all honesty a true "snow tire" should be better in the winter.....

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