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Old 05-10-2012, 08:39 PM   #1
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08 black Sahara 4 door

This is my dads jeep he is wanting a little lift he doesn't want it so big u can't get in it. We go jeepin a lot and he is always rubbing. I am thinking maybe a 2.5 or 3.5 maybe some 35s. What do u guys think will be the best?!

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Old 05-10-2012, 09:02 PM   #2
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2.5 inches for a nice no hassle lift. 3" or better.....you may need to start changing out drive shafts control arms to get that factory handeling and ride back.
35's always look awesome. Do it if you don't mind losing some power and saying bye bye to overdrive on the highway(if you have auto and it's your DD). I'd stick with 33's unless at some point you plan to regear and beef up that front D30. Those are some big meats to be turning offroad.
Personally I like my 2.5" lift and 33" tires. I'll lift it more and up the tire size later on down the road when I can dedicate it soley to offroad.

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Will I have to say bye-bye to overdrive with a 2012 Auto and 35s?

Edit: 2-door Rubi Auto
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Do u have some pics of its so i can see what it looks like
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:51 PM   #5
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Will I have to say bye-bye to overdrive with a 2012 Auto and 35s?

Edit: 2-door Rubi Auto
Not real sure HK. I have an 09. From what i've heard from others is that you'd probably be ok with the 3.6 and 3.73 gears. But you would not want to horse those 35s too hard offroad unless you gussett and maybe even sleave your D30 or upgrade axles. I'm sure some one with a 2012 will post you an answer.

Dustinw I don't have a pic, but I'll post you one asap. Plus you may want to try a search, I'm sure there are other threads with plenty of pictures of 2.5 lifts with 33's.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:55 PM   #6
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My 2012 has 4.10 and D44 axles, if that helps.

EDIT- sorry for the mild hijack, Dustin.
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2.5 inches for a nice no hassle lift. 3" or better.....you may need to start changing out drive shafts control arms to get that factory handeling and ride back.
35's always look awesome. Do it if you don't mind losing some power and saying bye bye to overdrive on the highway(if you have auto and it's your DD). I'd stick with 33's unless at some point you plan to regear and beef up that front D30. Those are some big meats to be turning offroad.
Personally I like my 2.5" lift and 33" tires. I'll lift it more and up the tire size later on down the road when I can dedicate it soley to offroad.
^^^ Good stuff here.

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Will I have to say bye-bye to overdrive with a 2012 Auto and 35s?

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Your Rubi has a stronger axle up front, so you won't have the same concerns about beefing up the front axle as peeps with the D30 axle do.

Also, since you've got 4.10 gears, you should be okay running 35's, though your mileage is gonna take a nosedive (eh...who cares), and you should consider buying a rear bumper/tire carrier (or a replacement HD tire carrier like the OR-FAB or the new TeraFlex) that can handle the extra weight of a 35" spare, especially when you pound around off-road.

The reason I highlighted "should" above, is cuz what's fine for one person might suck for another. I've got 3.73 gears in my '12, and plan on going to 4.56 sometime this summer, which will put me right in the sweet spot of 2500 rpm @ 70 mph in 6th gear (I've got a manual). Because of the OD system, the autos need a little more to be similarly effective. So you might find that with the stock 4.10's and 35's, your Jeep lacks power for climbing hills and passing slower traffic in high gear on the freeway.

If your dad uses the Jeep as his DD, or does a lot of on-road driving with it, you might be better off going with a good 2.5" lift (like the TF, Rock Krawler, or OME) and 33" tires. Much less expensive, and fewer potential problems.

And the difference between the 33's and 35's is really only about 1" of clearance off-road. Not really worth it, IMO, unless you guys are gonna crawl big rocks.
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And another thing:

Not sure where your dad's Jeep is rubbing at the moment, but if you buy wheels with backspacing of 4.5" or less, you shouldn't have any issues, width-wise. The lift will take of things height-wise.

The stock rims on JK's have 6.25" bs, which is very tight against the Jeep. The smaller the bs #, the more the tires will stick out from the Jeep.

If you decide to replace wheels/tires, you might also wanna consider going with a smaller wheel. You'll be able to buy tires AND rims in the 15" or 16" size for about the same, or less, than you would tires alone in the 17" and up sizes.

Plus, the smaller wheel will weigh less, and give you much more sidewall and a bigger contact patch for off-road use.
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Very good advice, kbwwolf. Thanks!
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Very good advice, kbwwolf. Thanks!
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:14 AM   #11
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Here ya go dustinw. Not the best pic, but it will give you pretty good illustration.
I run deep sand, mud here in Florida, washed out logging trails on the Georgia mountains and the 2.5 inch lift has been more than adequate.
On the highway I can run 75 to 80 mph tracking straight as an arrow with no shimmy or vibrations.
I would still like to have it a little higher, so I just got my 1.25 body lift from brown santa the other day. More vanity than functionality. I didn't want to alter my current suspension and risk messing up the current handling and ride characteristics and have to dump $$$ into resolving the cause.
We do get some wicked flooded roads after tropical storms and hurricanes, so having the cab a little higher would keep my feet dry. I figured if I don't like it, I can just take it off and sell it on ebay.
I plan to post a before and after thread when I install it later this month.
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Old 05-11-2012, 03:06 PM   #12
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Thank ya he is rubbing the bottom more ground clearance and he had 18s on it now and there wide
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:48 PM   #13
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This isn't the best pic. I think I'm going to go 2.5 from rough country I haven't called them yet to see if it levels it out or not thanks for the help your keeps looking good

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Old 05-12-2012, 01:25 PM   #14
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Just ordered 2.5 lift from rough country , sway bar disconnect, adjustable track bar, rear track bar bracket, steering stabilizer, grab handles he should be set
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:41 AM   #15
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Post up a pic after you install it. The 2.5 lift didn't throw my axles out by much at all. So I didn't need the adj front TB or the rear bracket. But every jeep is different, maybe I was just lucky.
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:49 AM   #16
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I will post a pic when finished I just want the ride to be the same and if its not he will notice and complain about it he is going away for a few days next week so I'm going to put it on an his soft top and doors surprise lift kit I wonder how long it will take him to notice.
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Old 05-16-2012, 10:01 PM   #17
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Well I got the lift in today and got started on it about 6 got suspension pet done just working on track bar and shocks and little stuff not to bad kinda having hell with the track bar so we will see what happens.

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