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Old 06-08-2013, 12:53 PM   #721
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Thanks. That's one daring dude 37s and no lift. I think I'd fell better with a little more room for the rubber.

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It is the Gobi Stealth - I have no complaints so far other than it took 7 weeks for it to arrive (ordered 4/1). I went through Trail Duty, no shipping, free ladder and wind fairing. EAD Offroad also sells them with the same freebies. I found a code to get 5% off at TD so I went that route. Wait time will be the same no matter how you order. The rack js everything you might expect:
1. Expensive
2. More wind noise - very loud until the wind fairing is adjusted and then just noticeably loud over 60 with the top on.
3. Lower Mpg - I have 1700 miles with the rack on and seem to be up to 2 mpg lower but can't be sure as I didn't get a good baseline.
4. Despite all that I absolutely love it.

I have two Hardigg chests en route and will post up more pics later. I also have a set of Black Box Logistics LEDs just waiting for the right mounts. I finally think I will be getting what I need this Friday.

As for the brake light, I am toying with the idea of mounting an led to the center of the rack or adding an led behind the spare tire. I had Recon tail lights but those didn't work so now I have IPCWs on order. Thanks for the tip on the mount - I will hit it with paint.

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Thanks. That's one daring dude 37s and no lift. I think I'd fell better with a little more room for the rubber.
Ummm... Have seen one 10A w/ 35s and no lift, but he had to trim fenders. Those with lifts have gone AEV 2.5, Mopar Stage 3 3", a long arm 4" I believe, and a few others. One or two have gone to 37s, but with lift and flat flares I believe. These generally reflect the various iterations so far.
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Is there a better alternative to this, rtv glue or something similar instead of the sticky back of the squares? Got mine painted now, going to add another couple coats throughout the day and put it on tomorrow, so if there's a better way let me know!
Really, if you don't want to use the standard adhesive backing, you could peel it off and use just about anything. Me, I was not planning on having it on there forever. Most likely, I'll get some dents or other destructive items hitting the grill at some point. I'd give it a 1-2 year life cycle before I changed it out...again, YMMV.
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Your talking about the adhesive backing, right? I did not, I live in SoCal, so not much in terms of rain here and she is kept in the garage when not in use. YMMV when it comes to longevity of the squares due to weather!
Maybe if your material is light enough it will last awhile. My grille is 16 gauge steel so it needed more strength lol. I'd also watch out for heat too. One hot summer day could heat that adhesive enough to give way as well.
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Is there a better alternative to this, rtv glue or something similar instead of the sticky back of the squares? Got mine painted now, going to add another couple coats throughout the day and put it on tomorrow, so if there's a better way let me know!
I used gorilla glue.
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Maybe if your material is light enough it will last awhile. My grille is 16 gauge steel so it needed more strength lol. I'd also watch out for heat too. One hot summer day could heat that adhesive enough to give way as well.

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Ok - here it is with the lights mounted. They aren't wired to the SPod yet. Black box Logistics 20" hybrid, two 6" flood up front and 12" flood in back.
Looks good! Curious why you didn't just go with a 50" in front?
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Alright... So my lift is complete 2.5 SkyJacker Classic Red w Shocks sprayed red as well to compliment the rest of the red accents on board. Now for the Dick Cepek DC-2s and General Grabber Reds 35s. Trying to get the consensus on tire carriers. AEV looks to be the most asthetically pleasing but its off-center high profile mount seems slightly off-putting. Plus visually it being so high it doesn't appear to be easy to see traffic in the rearview mirror... On the other hand, the Teraflex seems to be a lower profile bracket allowing for more visual clearance in the rearview mirror. On top of that, it also seems to be more centered relative to the back of the Jeep. Let me know what you guys think????
I just finished researching and thinking about this long and hard and ended up ordering the AEV carrier. I don't believe in hanging all the weight of the tailgate, wheel, over-sized tire, Hi-Lift jack, etc. off the right side quarter body panel like the Teraflex does. I plan on doing some serious off-road wheeling and I like the idea of that weight and those dynamic loads going straight to the frame.

To me, that is even worth losing the use of the right rear tow hook. The driver's side tow hook should be enough. For years I have been using a D shackle mounted in the tow hitch, which is even safer than the open design of the stock red tow hooks.

To me, the rear visibility issue is inconsequential. I haven't been able to see out the back window in my old rig for years, without any real concerns. The side mirrors work just fine on and off the highway and while parallel parking.

More importantly, i was wheeling two weeks ago with a guy who had just installed the new Teraflex tire carrier on his JKUR. The welds broke on the curved mount that holds the wheel studs to the tailgate, dropping his 35" wheel and tire. There are reports of the same thing happening on another forum. It could be user error in not snugging the wheel up against the mount correctly, and Teraflex is warrantying the part, but the risks of dropping a wheel on a following vehicle are too great for me. I am an engineer and a trial lawyer and I have decent instincts about this stuff.

Lastly, I have a concern about somebody rear-ending me and hitting the spare. With the Teraflex, those loads can only go straight into the tailgate sheet metal. With the AEV, there's a chance that some of the loads will be absorbed by the carrier's brace and support spindle. Knowing from experience how expensive body shop repair work is, i would rather take a chance on only having to repair or replace the AEV.

I am interested in others' views on these issues, and I will let you know if I have any others after the AEV is installed in a couple of weeks.
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Looks good! Curious why you didn't just go with a 50" in front?
The main reason is that I ordered the rack before I chose to go the LED route so I was limited by the traditional stealth light bar setup. At the time, I had not come across black box logistics and I wasn't prepared to drop what other brands are asking for a 50".However I am pretty excited about having this set up with the side floods and center hybrid - I think it will be plenty of light, less expensive than a single 50 and I have an independent switch for the floods. That said, I would seriously consider BBLs 50" if I were starting over.
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I just finished researching and thinking about this long and hard and ended up ordering the AEV carrier. I don't believe in hanging all the weight of the tailgate, wheel, over-sized tire, Hi-Lift jack, etc. off the right side quarter body panel like the Teraflex does. I plan on doing some serious off-road wheeling and I like the idea of that weight and those dynamic loads going straight to the frame.

To me, that is even worth losing the use of the right rear tow hook. The driver's side tow hook should be enough. For years I have been using a D shackle mounted in the tow hitch, which is even safer than the open design of the stock red tow hooks.

To me, the rear visibility issue is inconsequential. I haven't been able to see out the back window in my old rig for years, without any real concerns. The side mirrors work just fine on and off the highway and while parallel parking.

More importantly, i was wheeling two weeks ago with a guy who had just installed the new Teraflex tire carrier on his JKUR. The welds broke on the curved mount that holds the wheel studs to the tailgate, dropping his 35" wheel and tire. There are reports of the same thing happening on another forum. It could be user error in not snugging the wheel up against the mount correctly, and Teraflex is warrantying the part, but the risks of dropping a wheel on a following vehicle are too great for me. I am an engineer and a trial lawyer and I have decent instincts about this stuff.

Lastly, I have a concern about somebody rear-ending me and hitting the spare. With the Teraflex, those loads can only go straight into the tailgate sheet metal. With the AEV, there's a chance that some of the loads will be absorbed by the carrier's brace and support spindle. Knowing from experience how expensive body shop repair work is, i would rather take a chance on only having to repair or replace the AEV.

I am interested in others' views on these issues, and I will let you know if I have any others after the AEV is installed in a couple of weeks.
Good points and things that I also considered. I admit that if I was going with a super heavy 35 or up, I would probably go the AEV route. My setup is on the light side for 34s so I am not worried about dropping a tire. The visibility is a big deal for me and the TF allows me to take full advantage of the 10a bumper. But you make good points that people should consider before choosing.
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For sure! Thanks!

I got like over 50 of the zip tie mounting bases on there... You think I should remove the grill again an try to remove and apply Gorilla Glue? I had asked a person, someone I trust, before I applied the mounts if I should use the Gorilla Glue and the answer was no. I think it would cause some problems if I ever had to remove it. I am pretty content with it staying on?
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I am replacing Wheel Tires Front Bumper and Skid Plate. About 800 miles on 10A no off roading yet. I live in Indiana. If anyone is interested in these PM me. Replacement parts are not here will be a couple weeks, I believe before all can be done, doing myself.

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I am new to this forum. Need to get smarter on dos and donts but.... If anyone is planning on "upgrading" the bumpers of the new 10A and selling the factory isntalled bumpers, let me know! Would love to put the 10As on my JK. Thanks.
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Old 06-09-2013, 03:01 PM   #736
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Just finished the grille insert, turned out really well!
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Starting to get closer to "complete":

AEV 2.5 lift
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Still kind of waiting on a winch until I see what's going on with the plate situation.
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Okay, so I took the doors off yesterday. First time since owning a CJ-7 to be honest, so it's been a while. Pardon me, but I went astray and drove a couple of Broncos and a Tahoe while raising the kids. What I need to know is what is the best set of mirrors to have for when he doors are off?

Btw, love I with them off!
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Busy, yet Satisfying...

Started the weekend off by removing the exhaust, and giving it the "Stealth Treatment" with Rustoleum High Heat Flat Black. I will say those hangers are a beeoch to get off. Glad I did it, not sure I'll ever do it again!

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Started the weekend off by removing the exhaust, and giving it the "Stealth Treatment" with Rustoleum High Heat Flat Black. I will say those hangers are a beeoch to get off. Glad I did it, not sure I'll ever do it again!

Then turned my attention to my goodies from CoolTech, and first installed my Red 48" Firestick on the UltraMount on the license plate holder:

For the record, I ran the antenna cable, along the driver's side under the carpet, under the seat, to the tunnel, and up to the dash. Next up was the Cobra 75, where I stashed the small base unit under the glove box, and mounted the handset on the VersaMount:

Finally, I thought long and hard before deciding to poke a hole in the lower portion of the passenger side of my dash to install the disconnect for the CB. In the end, I'm happy with the way it came out, and have no regrets!
Nice work BadDog!
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Nice work BadDog!
Thanks! Prepping for my trip up to Rausch Creek on Wednesday with CarlisleBill and a few others, to pop 'er offroad cherry. Now I need to find someplace to tune my CB antenna. Worst case, I did locate a place up in Carlisle, PA, somewhat en route.
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Started the weekend off by removing the exhaust, and giving it the "Stealth Treatment" with Rustoleum High Heat Flat Black. I will say those hangers are a beeoch to get off. Glad I did it, not sure I'll ever do it again!
Any chance of a DIY tutorial?
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Any chance of a DIY tutorial?
How about a link to the excellent tutorial I used (along with CoolTech's provided instructions)? Here ya go:

Butterbuddha's Monster CB Install

p.s. - The only significant difference was that the VersaMount is a bit different on our model, but is actually much easier! BTW, the install revealed that the nice trim on the "oh shit" handle is faux plastic, not bolted at all. Oh well...


p.s.s. - Oh, a DIY on my exhaust? Pretty simple, unbolt the muffler, one bolt on the clamp. WD40 the two hangers, grunt, cuss, and force the little bast#$@% off. Had a beer. Wire brushed it, sprayed with three coats of Hi heat (2000F) Rustoleum (with 30-60 minutes drying between. Drank some more brew. Let it dry, regreased the hangers, cussed some more, forced em on, retightened the bolt, stood back, had another beer, and smiled. Maybe an extra beer or two somewhere in there...

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How about a link to the excellent tutorial I used (along with CoolTech's provided instructions)? Here ya go:

Thanks bro... I was actually talking about the muffler.
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See above, I edited when I realized!
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How about a link to the excellent tutorial I used (along with CoolTech's provided instructions)? Here ya go:

Butterbuddha's Monster CB Install

p.s. - The only significant difference was that the VersaMount is a bit different on our model, but is actually much easier! BTW, the install revealed that the nice trim on the "oh shit" handle is faux plastic, not bolted at all. Oh well...

p.s.s. - Oh, a DIY on my exhaust? Pretty simple, unbolt the muffler, one bolt on the clamp. WD40 the two hangers, grunt, cuss, and force the little bast#$@% off. Had a beer. Wire brushed it, sprayed with three coats of Hi heat (2000F) Rustoleum (with 30-60 minutes drying between. Drank some more brew. Let it dry, regreased the hangers, cussed some more, forced em on, retightened the bolt, stood back, had another beer, and smiled. Maybe an extra beer or two somewhere in there...

I was looking to do the same thing today, got underneath loosened the clamp on the muffler and then tried to pry off the hangers....I let out some words that made the dog hide from me....I gave up and was just thinking about cutting them off a buying new ones....still debating
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p.s.s. - Oh, a DIY on my exhaust? Pretty simple, unbolt the muffler, one bolt on the clamp. WD40 the two hangers, grunt, cuss, and force the little bast#$@% off. Had a beer. Wire brushed it, sprayed with three coats of Hi heat (2000F) Rustoleum (with 30-60 minutes drying between. Drank some more brew. Let it dry, regreased the hangers, cussed some more, forced em on, retightened the bolt, stood back, had another beer, and smiled. Maybe an extra beer or two somewhere in there...
Thanks for posting this will help out.

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I was looking to do the same thing today, got underneath loosened the clamp on the muffler and then tried to pry off the hangers....I let out some words that made the dog hide from me....I gave up and was just thinking about cutting them off a buying new ones....still debating
Yeah.. I am gonna have to check this out before I start taking crap off. Maybe a little high on my project skills level and probably time I get a some type of repair manual... by the way is there one for a 2013 Jeep Wrangler?
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Then turned my attention to my goodies from CoolTech, and first installed my Red 48" Firestick on the UltraMount on the license plate holder:

For the record, I ran the antenna cable, along the driver's side under the carpet, under the seat, to the tunnel, and up to the dash. Next up was the Cobra 75, where I stashed the small base unit under the glove box, and mounted the handset on the VersaMount:

Finally, I thought long and hard before deciding to poke a hole in the lower portion of the passenger side of my dash to install the disconnect for the CB. In the end, I'm happy with the way it came out, and have no regrets!
So, I'm not asking this to start a flame war or anything, just an honest question. Why would you prefer a hard wired CB when you can just get a handheld one? I ask because I had me in my 95 YJ and that was a easy hookup for power, antenna and speaker. I am looking for a setup for the 10a, and figured a handheld could cut it, no?

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