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Old 02-16-2013, 12:18 AM   #61
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Sales Code Description MSRP(USD) FWP(USD)
Model: JKJS74 WRANGLER UNLIMITED RUBICON 4X4 34,095 32,107
Package: 24J Customer Preferred Package 24J 5,400 4,806
ERB 3.6L V6 24V VVT Engine 0 0
DGJ 5-Speed Auto W5A580 Transmission 1,125 1,001
Paint/Seat/Trim: PDS Anvil Clear Coat 0 0
APA Monotone Paint 0 0
*JY Rubicon 10th Anniv Leather Seats 0 0
-XR Black/Red 0 0
Options: MX1 Body Color 3-Piece Hard Top 1,795 1,598
MML Body Color Fender Flares 200 178
HAB Air Conditioning w/Auto Temp Control 155 138
DMF 4.10 Rear Axle Ratio 195 174
CJ1 Supplemental Frt Seat Side Air Bags 495 441
AHQ Max Tow Package 390 347
NHK Engine Block Heater 95 85
NAS 50 State Emissions 0 0
4EA Sold Vehicle 0 0
171 Zone 71-Los Angeles 0 0
Discounts: YGE 5 Additional Gallons of Gas 0 17
Destination Fees: 995 995

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Old 02-16-2013, 10:35 AM   #62
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Same here. Live in the snow belt and debating DuraTracs right from the dealer on stock rims. Not sure what the market is for "used" KM2 or even where I could sell them other than maybe Craig's list.

Also planning on AEV 2.5" lift, 10A winch, JW Speaker LED's, and Uniden CB for summer Jamboree trip.

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2dr Billet/black... JW speaker LED, black mesh grill inserts, blackouts on turn signals, tint front windows... And I think the wild boar grill?!?!

Last but not least, warn winch
The Wild Boar grill looks sick!!!! Thinking about getting it for mine!!!
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Old 02-18-2013, 12:03 PM   #64
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Just ordered my first mod. Told the sales guy, Mark, not to ship though until April. 25% off today for President's Day:

Hot Headliners. Got great reviews all over, insulation from heat/cold, road noise reduction, OEM look, and better sound from sound system.
2011 - 2013 Headliner Kits -
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:12 PM   #65
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Guess I'll chime in too. Mods for the first nice weekend...

MetalCloak Game Changer 3.5" lift,
Poison Spyder front and rear fenders
GY MT/R w/K 37's on Level * ZX's w/rock ring
Allgig with 4 cameras wired
Diablesport Trinity
RockHard 4x4 Sport Cage
Engo 9k winch
Poison Spyder Tramp Stamp II

Think thats about it, though I still have to order the winch...

Edit - Still have to order my AEV corners too.
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:06 PM   #66
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Just added the Fox ATS steering Stabilizer to the parts pile gathering in the garage.
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:52 PM   #67
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if anyone plans on selling their 10A hood, let me know
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Old 02-22-2013, 05:08 AM   #68
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^^ X2 ^^
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:25 PM   #70
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Anyone gonna be plasti dipping anything on their 10A?
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:50 PM   #71
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Anyone gonna be plasti dipping anything on their 10A?
I haven't decided between that or bed liner for the inside of the hard top, soon as I get the 10a the hard top is coming off for the soft top, so itll be easy to try one or the other.

I got mine in black and I don't want the stealth look.. so not much going to be dipped unless there is a red plasti dip? Then I might accent some things red to match the red seats :-)
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Does anyone know if the seats in the 10a are different then those in a standard rubicon? Wondering if trek armor will fit...
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Does anyone know if the seats in the 10a are different then those in a standard rubicon? Wondering if trek armor will fit...
Same design as the rest of the 2013's.
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Old 02-22-2013, 05:03 PM   #74
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Color and logo embroidery should be the only difference from standard Rubicon leather. Frames and padding will be the same, as one off for this limited run would be cost prohibitive.
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I haven't decided between that or bed liner for the inside of the hard top, soon as I get the 10a the hard top is coming off for the soft top, so itll be easy to try one or the other.

I got mine in black and I don't want the stealth look.. so not much going to be dipped unless there is a red plasti dip? Then I might accent some things red to match the red seats :-)
Thet have red
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Thet have red
Well in that case I might be experimenting with some red plasti dip.. Try it in a few small places see how it looks, best part is if its ugly I can peel it off and then it's gone.
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So far my mod list for the 10A I don't even have yet are:

Welcomedistributing Grab Handles front and back for JKU with optional grips!
POLK db651s x 2 pairs to go in the dash and sound bar
KrautoLED replacement LED lights for the front and rear interior lights
Cooper ST MAXX tires to replace stock KM2's (still thinking about this one)
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Lighting, will likely go with Trucklites up front
Some summer top options like wind jammer or screen/mesh full length top
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Well in that case I might be experimenting with some red plasti dip.. Try it in a few small places see how it looks, best part is if its ugly I can peel it off and then it's gone.
Same, I'm gonna get a couple cans of black and red and mess around with some subtle accents.
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Same, I'm gonna get a couple cans of black and red and mess around with some subtle accents.
Right now I'm just thinking the Jeep logo red, not really sure what else would look good, but not overly red.. with the doors on you can't see the red seats, so I don't want it to look odd. I'm glad the tow hooks are red though, so theres at least a little bit outside to start.
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I'm planning on having the dealer swap out the stock KM2 265/70/17's with KM2 285/70/17 tires on the stock rims. I've done my research, and I know that I might have to adjust the steering stops so the tires don't rub on the swap bars (hoping with the 10A 'lift' it's not necessary), but I have a couple additional questions that I haven't seen direct answers on yet:

Would the dealership be able to program the computer for the larger tire size, or would I need to buy something like the ProCAL in order to do that myself?

Is the stock spare tire carrier suitable for the 285/70/17 tires on stock rim? I know eventually I'll upgrade to a proper spare tire carrier like the AEV unit, but not right away.

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Old 02-26-2013, 12:51 PM   #81
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Would the dealership be able to program the computer for the larger tire size, or would I need to buy something like the ProCAL in order to do that myself?


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They'll do it, but they'll most likely charge you for it too. I've heard others on here mentioning it was upwards of 100$ to do it, when one of the tuners wasn't much more so if you ever upgrade again later you save another dealer charge.
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They'll do it, but they'll most likely charge you for it too. I've heard others on here mentioning it was upwards of 100$ to do it, when one of the tuners wasn't much more so if you ever upgrade again later you save another dealer charge.
Ah, okay. Seems a bit strange they would charge for it, can't take more than a minute or two to connect and change the tire size. However, I guess they are out to make a buck whenever they can (In this case $100+ for a couple minutes of work!). If they end up charging that kind of money, I will do just as you said and simply purchase a ProCAL and do it myself.

Thanks for the information!
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Ah, okay. Seems a bit strange they would charge for it, can't take more than a minute or two to connect and change the tire size. However, I guess they are out to make a buck whenever they can (In this case $100+ for a couple minutes of work!). If they end up charging that kind of money, I will do just as you said and simply purchase a ProCAL and do it myself.

Thanks for the information!

Just like how most places charge you to plug in the computer and see why your check engine light is on. Once place here wanted to charge my girlfriend 80$ just to "diagnose" it as they said.. hah.. autozone did it for free.
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Just like how most places charge you to plug in the computer and see why your check engine light is on. Once place here wanted to charge my girlfriend 80$ just to "diagnose" it as they said.. hah.. autozone did it for free.
That's the truth. I've had an Innovate OT-2 for quite some time now, so I can pull codes (As well as a bunch of others things) for free anyways. I bought it to interface with the wideband O2 on my PT Cruiser. I'll definitely continue using the OT-2 on my new Jeep, not sure there is any reason to throw the wideband in it though.

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They'll do it, but they'll most likely charge you for it too. I've heard others on here mentioning it was upwards of 100$ to do it, when one of the tuners wasn't much more so if you ever upgrade again later you save another dealer charge.
I'm having the BFG LT285/75R17 KM2s put on at the dealership when mine arrives, and they said it would cost $29 to do the programming. Which based on their hourly rate, is 20 minutes of time they are quoting to do it.

Seems like a reasonable amount of time to; take out whatever cable they need, power up whatever device they need to use, connect up to the Jeep, find the correct setting, change the setting to the correct value, save the changes, and then put everything away.

Definitely worst case estimate for time and will likely only take 5 minutes if they know what they are doing. But if a tech that has not done it before gets the job, I could see it taking a little longer for them to find their way around the settings depending on how many there are.
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I'm having the BFG LT285/75R17 KM2s put on at the dealership when mine arrives, and they said it would cost $29 to do the programming. Which based on their hourly rate, is 20 minutes of time they are quoting to do it.

Seems like a reasonable amount of time to; take out whatever cable they need, power up whatever device they need to use, connect up to the Jeep, find the correct setting, change the setting to the correct value, save the changes, and then put everything away.

Definitely worst case estimate for time and will likely only take 5 minutes if they know what they are doing. But if a tech that has not done it before gets the job, I could see it taking a little longer for them to find their way around the settings depending on how many there are.
Is the dealership giving you a credit for the 265/70/17 KM2's coming off, or are you going to try selling those locally yourself? I saw you will also be sticking with the stock wheels, but going with 285/75/17's vs. 285/70/17's that I am planning on. Will you be upgrading the spare tire carrier, or will you run the stock spare tire carrier?

$29 is not a bad price to update the tire size. I would be fine with that amount. I am working out the details with my dealership to see if they will give me enough money on "trade-in" for the 265's that would be coming off. That will be the decision maker for me if I end up going with the 285's from the beginning or just run with the factory tires for the time being.

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The day I get mine I will take it to the tire shop and have them put on some same size duratracs and put the km2's up for sale. Here in Wisconsin I need a tire that is great in all kinds of snow, in rain and ice.
Since I started reading this forum a few months back, I have learned more about tires and such than during the rest of life, combined. That being said, are the KM2 tires on the 10A that bad in snow?

Granted, I do not live in Wisconsin, and here in Southeast Pennsylvania, we only get a good 12+ inch snow every few years (except for 2011, when it happened 3 times in a few weeks). That being said, most of the stuff we get is a few wet inches a few times a year. Is that anything I should be concerned about?

I only ask because my current truck handles so well in snow that I do not even need to use the 4WD in most cases. Reading numerous people talking about how bad the KM2s are is a bit unsettling.
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I was refering to cerchia wanting a 10A hood
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Since I started reading this forum a few months back, I have learned more about tires and such than during the rest of life, combined. That being said, are the KM2 tires on the 10A that bad in snow?

Granted, I do not live in Wisconsin, and here in Southeast Pennsylvania, we only get a good 12+ inch snow every few years (except for 2011, when it happened 3 times in a few weeks). That being said, most of the stuff we get is a few wet inches a few times a year. Is that anything I should be concerned about?

I only ask because my current truck handles so well in snow that I do not even need to use the 4WD in most cases. Reading numerous people talking about how bad the KM2s are is a bit unsettling.
I have NO personal experience with KM2s. I wanted a larger tire and lift was my main reason for changing.

Also I tow my Jeeps behind a motorhome which equals a lot of highway miles. Mud terrain tires don't last in this scenario well enough to justify their price so I opted for an aggressive A/T.

I "really" have NO experience with extended snow performance on ANY tire since I live just outside of Atlanta. We get 1-3" a year every 2-3 years.
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I "really" have NO experience with extended snow performance on ANY tire since I live just outside of Atlanta. We get 1-3" a year every 2-3 years.
I used to live in Villa Rica, right off I-20 in Carroll County back in 2000 - 2003. It snowed one year a few days after Thanksgiving, and was gone within a few hours, heh.

I spent most of my life in Mississippi, so until I moved to SEPA, I had virtually no experience on snow.

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