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Old 07-01-2013, 08:10 AM   #631
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Very nice! I'm jealous of that terrain and weather!
The weather was supposed to come in... However, it cleared up and we got a good two days of beautiful weather. We were on my friends farm... its an old 168 acre plantation that is no longer farmed... gorgeous!

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VERY NICE!!!!

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Procomp Extreme AT 35 x12.50, Spidertrax wheel spacers. The rest of the details are in my signature block...

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Very nice! I'm jealous of that terrain and weather!

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Old 07-02-2013, 12:20 AM   #637
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So, 10A owners who lifted with 35's, did you have to trim your rock rails? did your 10A come with a factory trimmed pinch seam?

You do not have to trim your rails with 35's. The rail will look tight to the tire on the rear. However, the rear is designed to move up and backwards. This motion will not allow the rail to touch the tire on the rear.
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You do not have to trim your rails with 35's. The rail will look tight to the tire on the rear. However, the rear is designed to move up and backwards. This motion will not allow the rail to touch the tire on the rear.
So then why do guys trim theirs?
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So then why do guys trim theirs?
I think if you go up to 38' you trim.
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:55 AM   #640
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+1 to 10A 2D's here....saw this at the local dealer, and just couldn't say no.

Came home last Saturday night!
Will miss my '06 Rubi, but this Jeep ROCKS

My dog like's thinks it's kick-ass too
Congrats! You see that is what the 10A haters don't understand. It is not that we are suckered into paying that much for a JK, but it is we see the value and really have love at first sight. Good hunting my friend...
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So then why do guys trim theirs?
On page 20, two other jeeps are running 35's and their rock rails are not trimmed. The space between rail and tire look similar to mine. i have not experienced rubbing.

It is my understanding that anything more than 35's require trimming. I'm wondering if some 10A owners may have trimmed prematurely. (Guessing?)

Also, I have taken my 10A off road, but I have not crawled my rig. I do not believe I have pushed the suspension to its limits yet.
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On page 20, two other jeeps are running 35's and their rock rails are not trimmed. The space between rail and tire look similar to mine. i have not experienced rubbing.

It is my understanding that anything more than 35's require trimming. I'm wondering if some 10A owners may have trimmed prematurely. (Guessing?)

Also, I have taken my 10A off road, but I have not crawled my rig. I do not believe I have pushed the suspension to its limits yet.
Sounds good. Do keep us posted though
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Old 07-02-2013, 01:24 AM   #643
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So then why do guys trim theirs?
I'm running 37s. Had to trim my rails all the way back to the weld where the outer round rail comes back into the inner rail.
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Congrats! You see that is what the 10A haters don't understand. It is not that we are suckered into paying that much for a JK, but it is we see the value and really have love at first sight. Good hunting my friend...
Yup!
I saw the guy who I purchased my Jeep from. I had gone back to the dealership to pick up my freedom panel bag, and I told him that I am glad that he talked me into the 10A. If I didn't want it, I would not have purchased it. So it's not that he talked me into it, but more he had me consider it, and showed it to me and I liked it.
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:57 AM   #646
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How well did those bumper end caps come off?
They came off fine, the bolts were cross threaded but they came off no problem. Just meant I had to ratchet them the entire time instead of loosening them and doing the rest by hand.

As for trimming the fenders, my 10A has a 4.5 Teraflex on 37's and the tires do not rub on the rock rails, however, at full flex it does rub on the rear portion where the fender liner and the rear bumper meets. I will have to trim that out for wheelin'.
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They came off fine, the bolts were cross threaded but they came off no problem. Just meant I had to ratchet them the entire time instead of loosening them and doing the rest by hand.
Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is "cross threaded"? This seems to be a problem with many of the end caps. So do you recommend if I decide to remove them I should have the dealership remove them so there is no warranty issues?
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You've got one of the best looking rigs on the site too man. Looking forward to seeing some photos from your outing.

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Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is "cross threaded"? This seems to be a problem with many of the end caps. So do you recommend if I decide to remove them I should have the dealership remove them so there is no warranty issues?
Nuts and bolts are designed to go together like peas and carrots. Put the nut on the bolt properly and you can loosen / tighten easily. Cross thread the bolt (usually by having the threads misaligned and forcing it) then you get cross threaded. At that point it is difficult to remove and usually re-install the nut bolt because either the nut or the bolt gets new threads cut into the metal.

The worst that can happen by removing them is that they are cross threaded and you will have to get new ones if you decide to put the end caps back on. I suppose if you pay the dealer to remove them, they would see they are cross threaded and you could argue a warranty issue but you paid to have someone remove some bolts.

or you take them off yourself, the dealer blames you and you have to buy new hardware. Seems like either way you are going to be out some money.
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Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is "cross threaded"? This seems to be a problem with many of the end caps. So do you recommend if I decide to remove them I should have the dealership remove them so there is no warranty issues?
Damn I like your thinking . The dealer will own it at that point ! Lol
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Nuts and bolts are designed to go together like peas and carrots. Put the nut on the bolt properly and you can loosen / tighten easily. Cross thread the bolt (usually by having the threads misaligned and forcing it) then you get cross threaded. At that point it is difficult to remove and usually re-install the nut bolt because either the nut or the bolt gets new threads cut into the metal.

The worst that can happen by removing them is that they are cross threaded and you will have to get new ones if you decide to put the end caps back on. I suppose if you pay the dealer to remove them, they would see they are cross threaded and you could argue a warranty issue but you paid to have someone remove some bolts.

or you take them off yourself, the dealer blames you and you have to buy new hardware. Seems like either way you are going to be out some money.
I will check into what they charge, because if it is still under the 3-year or 36K-mile Basic Limited Warranty, then if there is a problem they should replace it.. I would think? I just called my dealer and got some conflicting reports. The body shop lady told me that she did not know if it was covered under this warranty and that it would cost me anywhere from $65-$130 to remove the end caps. She then said that the Service department would have a better understanding of what the situation would be. The service lady basically told me that it would be covered under the warranty and they would not charge me for inspecting the end caps. Of course I would have this verified before any work would be done. I just got off of the phone with JEEP and she told me that she recommends that I have the dealership inspect them before I do anything and the dealership will determine what the cause to see if it is a manufacturing issue. She could not give me a definite answer if it was covered or not. So, in short, it would depend on your relationship with your salesman and dealership if they would charge to inspect the end-caps or not and determine if they are cross-threaded if it is a manufacturing error.
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I will check into what they charge, because if it is still under the 3-year or 36K-mile Basic Limited Warranty, then if there is a problem they should replace it.. I would think? I just called my dealer and got some conflicting reports. The body shop lady told me that she did not know if it was covered under this warranty and that it would cost me anywhere from $65-$130 to remove the end caps. She then said that the Service department would have a better understanding of what the situation would be. The service lady basically told me that it would be covered under the warranty and they would not charge me for inspecting the end caps. Of course I would have this verified before any work would be done. I just got off of the phone with JEEP and she told me that she recommends that I have the dealership inspect them before I do anything and the dealership will determine what the cause to see if it is a manufacturing issue. She could not give me a definite answer if it was covered or not. So, in short, it would depend on your relationship with your salesman and dealership if they would charge to inspect the end-caps or not and determine if they are cross-threaded if it is a manufacturing error.
You could remove only one bolt, show the service department it is cross threaded and request/demand inspection and correction. I don't think I would agree to pay the dealer to fix something under warranty.
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You could remove only one bolt, show the service department it is cross threaded and request/demand inspection and correction. I don't think I would agree to pay the dealer to fix something under warranty.
Yes, I don't think I would pay them either and that is a good idea of only removing one bolt. Maybe do even do it in front of them.
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My assessment of the end cap bolts is that they are softer than the bumper metal, and that it is actually the bumper that is damaging these threads. The nuts are pretty soft by comparison, and thread easy. Either way, if you can get some replacement bolts out of them, more power to you!
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I took my end caps off and had the same problem, had to ratchet the bolts all the way out but it seems like they used some liquid threads to seal/lock them in a little better, screwed them back in no problem and left the end caps of for good
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Changing rims out this weekend but figured I'd post her up as is now.

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