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Old 09-05-2012, 09:39 PM   #31
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all i'm saying is that is has the potential to come out well... i wouldn't do it, i like to wheel my jeep, but i wouldn't blame someone that went that route. again, it could turn out very well if done with taste
I agree but what is the chance of that happening? H2 had great potential but why are they so hated? Because people ruined them becuz they are idiots and the same thing would happen here sadly I agree potential but not enough smart people

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Old 09-05-2012, 09:50 PM   #32
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Less air under the vehicle means less drag, means better mpg. In a jeep, better means 1mpg MAYBE.
Haha, I was about to rebut until I got to the end of your post. lol

My point: a box on wheels 9 inches off the ground is the same as a box 7 inches off the ground. This just isn't the platform from which you seek a corner-hugging, on-rails type of ride. Keep it stock and upgrade the rubber.

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Old 09-05-2012, 09:51 PM   #33
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:53 PM   #34
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2 door looks so cramped and just wrong the white one is ok because there isn't some crap body kit and the red one is straight rice burner like wok in the passenger seat ricer
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That is seriously one big bucket of suck. I might drive that POS if I were in a Lil' Wang, errr....Lil' Wayne video...
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That is seriously one big bucket of suck. I might drive that POS if I were in a Lil' Wang, errr....Lil' Wayne video...
Ew vomit on wheels
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Why buy a 4x4 vehicle and then lower it??

That photo reminds me of the clowns that lower hummers on 20+" wagon wheels.

I was behind a h2 the other night in a drive thru, and noticed that there were tv's in the rear head rest of the last row of seats!! There were no seats behind them!! I guess they were installed for me to watch booty clapping music videos as I wait for my hamburger and fries.


Just another case of "More dollars than sense"...
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Haha, I was about to rebut until I got to the end of your post. lol

My point: a box on wheels 9 inches off the ground is the same as a box 7 inches off the ground. This just isn't the platform from which you seek a corner-hugging, on-rails type of ride. Keep it stock and upgrade the rubber.
I just had this argument the other day...except opposite. That lifting ur jeep and nothing else done gives u worse mpg. I thought it wouldn't affect it yet the majority of people on another forum swear that just a lift gives u worse mpg.

So u would think lowering it would improve it....

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Old 09-05-2012, 10:43 PM   #40
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This thread makes me want slam the TJ that is going to get my rubi's drivetrain when I upgrade it ,just for the LOLs. Wouldnt be hard to do at all.
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Old 09-05-2012, 10:47 PM   #42
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I just had this argument the other day...except opposite. That lifting ur jeep and nothing else done gives u worse mpg. I thought it wouldn't affect it yet the majority of people on another forum swear that just a lift gives u worse mpg.

So u would think lowering it would improve it....

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Sometimes the whole assumption thing is not true it's like saying if you have more hp u have worse mpg which is not always true.mpg is all about weight to power ratio and aerodynamics it has nothing to do with ride height. We all bought jeeps why in gods name are we arguing about mpg? We all knew what we were getting ourselves into and if you didn't or dont like it it's called drive to Toyota and trade it in for a Prius or Nissan leaf and go hug a tree instead of driving over one
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OK, where are the clowns? Do they pop out from underneath the hood and run around? That thing is Craptastic!
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:28 PM   #44
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Sometimes the whole assumption thing is not true it's like saying if you have more hp u have worse mpg which is not always true.mpg is all about weight to power ratio and aerodynamics it has nothing to do with ride height. We all bought jeeps why in gods name are we arguing about mpg? We all knew what we were getting ourselves into and if you didn't or dont like it it's called drive to Toyota and trade it in for a Prius or Nissan leaf and go hug a tree instead of driving over one
Hey now. I know all about power to weight ratio and that more hp doesn't mean worse mpg blah blah blah. I'm not worried about mpg personally. It was just a conversation that was had and was talked about. Do I think it makes it worse by just a lift? Personally I can't really say. U r still pushing a brick through the air. But u have changed the way the air flows under the vehicle as well.

And as a side note to the the hugger comment, just cause I drive a jeep, doesn't mean I can't respect the environment as well. I drive my jeep 10km to work and back each day and have fun with it on the weekend's. And where I work having a 4x4 or something similar really helps. Otherwise I drive a 2011 Subaru imprezza or walk. I also recycle and reuse as much as I can and also compost. Normally my wife and I have les than a kitchen garbage bag of trash in a week. so hey maybe I'm a bit of a "tree hugger" but at the same time I'm helping keep this planet nice so we can go enjoy the outdoors in our jeeps. U don't have to drive a leaf or prius to be environmentally friendly....

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Hey now. I know all about power to weight ratio and that more hp doesn't mean worse mpg blah blah blah. I'm not worried about mpg personally. It was just a conversation that was had and was talked about. Do I think it makes it worse by just a lift? Personally I can't really say. U r still pushing a brick through the air. But u have changed the way the air flows under the vehicle as well.

And as a side note to the the hugger comment, just cause I drive a jeep, doesn't mean I can't respect the environment as well. I drive my jeep 10km to work and back each day and have fun with it on the weekend's. And where I work having a 4x4 or something similar really helps. Otherwise I drive a 2011 Subaru imprezza or walk. I also recycle and reuse as much as I can and also compost. Normally my wife and I have les than a kitchen garbage bag of trash in a week. so hey maybe I'm a bit of a "tree hugger" but at the same time I'm helping keep this planet nice so we can go enjoy the outdoors in our jeeps. U don't have to drive a leaf or prius to be environmentally friendly....

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I didn't say it directly towards u it's the clowns u were referencing as well how saying why lift ur jeep if it ruins ur mpg. I anyone hasn't noticed our keeps aren't getting great gas mileage anyways lol so whether or not we save or lose 1 mpg is really irrelevant. My fiancée has a Toyota yaris but now she wants a jeep too I'm not making fun of anyone cause that is kind of a contradiction what I'm saying is that if your complaining about mpg after buying a jeep, whoever this is was to arrogant to think this whole lifestyle through. And that was my point not calling anyone in particular a tree hugged just usin it as a reference to what these people are complaining about
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Saw a lowered black JK the other day and if that wasn't bad enough it had chrome all over it. Each to their own I guess
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I didn't say it directly towards u it's the clowns u were referencing as well how saying why lift ur jeep if it ruins ur mpg. I anyone hasn't noticed our keeps aren't getting great gas mileage anyways lol so whether or not we save or lose 1 mpg is really irrelevant. My fiancée has a Toyota yaris but now she wants a jeep too I'm not making fun of anyone cause that is kind of a contradiction what I'm saying is that if your complaining about mpg after buying a jeep, whoever this is was to arrogant to think this whole lifestyle through. And that was my point not calling anyone in particular a tree hugged just usin it as a reference to what these people are complaining about
Ah gotcha. My bad. Carry on.....

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somewhat akin to putting mud tires on a Caddy?
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I would straight up ROCK THAT THING!



And by that I mean I would throw rocks at it.
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I love how polarizing these forums get. I've seen it on every one I've ever been on (Mustang, 350Z, 300C, Ram truck,...). If you're not doing what the group majority likes you're doing it wrong.

I think some of you are forgetting that these can just be nice looking vehicles. There's a black Altitude in our work parking lot right now that I couldn't ever see lifted. It comes across as just an upscale looking SUV. Not everyone wants to drive a Grand Cherokee or a Liberty Jet. If someone isn't ever going off-road but will see inclement weather and wants 4wd, why not a Jeep Wrangler? You can't put the top down on a GC. And then how much ground clearance do you need if street only? I don't ever remember scraping anything off the bottom of my old 350Z driving on the street and my wife's old AWD Pacifica handled some minor off-pavement without issue.

A set of Eibach springs, better shocks, and some tasteful SRT 20s and good tires would make for a nice street-only truck. Would I do it? No (although my Ram is a 2wd sport on 20s). I certainly wouldn't berate anyone for it though if it was done tastefully.
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Not polarizing, its like lifting a corvette. If its for the sake of being original, to each their own. But I will throw up a little if I saw a lowered wrangler in real life.
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I love how polarizing these forums get. I've seen it on every one I've ever been on (Mustang, 350Z, 300C, Ram truck,...). If you're not doing what the group majority likes you're doing it wrong.

I think some of you are forgetting that these can just be nice looking vehicles. There's a black Altitude in our work parking lot right now that I couldn't ever see lifted. It comes across as just an upscale looking SUV. Not everyone wants to drive a Grand Cherokee or a Liberty Jet. If someone isn't ever going off-road but will see inclement weather and wants 4wd, why not a Jeep Wrangler? You can't put the top down on a GC. And then how much ground clearance do you need if street only? I don't ever remember scraping anything off the bottom of my old 350Z driving on the street and my wife's old AWD Pacifica handled some minor off-pavement without issue.

A set of Eibach springs, better shocks, and some tasteful SRT 20s and good tires would make for a nice street-only truck. Would I do it? No (although my Ram is a 2wd sport on 20s). I certainly wouldn't berate anyone for it though if it was done tastefully.
Sure, to each his/her own, and it's not my money, so I don't care what someone does with his/her vehicle, but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to laugh at it.

There are a lot of purists out there, and frankly, I'm one of them. If I see a Jeep Wrangler lowered and on 26s, I'm gonna laugh my ass off, and he/she certainly isn't gonna get any "props" from me. Honestly, I laugh my ass off at ANYTHING I see with big, chrome wheels; Escalades, Chargers, 300s, and anything in between.

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Not polarizing, its like lifting a corvette. If its for the sake of being original, to each their own. But I will throw up a little if I saw a lowered wrangler in real life.
All I can say is that the owner ain't gonna get a wave from me.
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I needed a good laugh, this thread was it.
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I think this one's had its run. OP got some answers and it's time to avert the potential flame fest.

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