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Old 02-28-2013, 12:26 PM   #91
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Yesterday I looked under two Wranglers straight off the transport on our overflow lot. I sell Chevy but our dealer network also includes a local Jeep dealership. Didn't take any pics but the Moab Unlimited had front axel corrosion similar to the photos posted here. The Oscar Mike axel looked new, just like it should. If my new 10a has axel corrosion like this I am going to be pretty upset. I expect a new vehicle and there is without a doubt a problem here.

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So what happened? Did the dealer get back to you?

I have an 08 JK and it does not have rust like that on it.

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So what happened? Did the dealer get back to you?

I have an 08 JK and it does not have rust like that on it.
Is your drive shaft rusted and some of the wheel area components?
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My Billet JKU was born Dec 12, and I was eyeing it at the dealer for about 3 weeks prior to pulling the trigger Feb 1, so I know it came straight from Toledo. Being on the RI coast, we have salt winter and summer (summer in the form of Salt fog). That combination just killed the body and was working the frame hard on my old '99 F350.
My 488 mile undercarriage isn't nearly as bad as the OP's, but the patterns are the same (although my frame only shows rust where it was scraped (probably from the transport) and studying it tonight I can see where the paint stops, the rust starts. Poor factory prep/paint is what it looks like to me.
I'll check with the dealer but I'm most likey going to POR 15 it all and be done with it.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:16 AM   #95
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Ill be doing some painting as well. But por 15, and I know this product well, isn't the best option. Unless you sandblast and do all at once you are applying it over paint that will just come up.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:27 AM   #96
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Ill be doing some painting as well. But por 15, and I know this product well, isn't the best option. Unless you sandblast and do all at once you are applying it over paint that will just come up.
Well, the rust I'm seeing is fairly well demarcated, I can tell where the paint stops, and since I'm not looking for a pretty chassis, the POR 15 should work just fine to stop the oxidation. It's been holding a project XJ12 together in this environment for about 5 years, so I think it'll work fine. To each his own.
The bottom line is of course that it seems that the cast (and maybe forged) parts on many of our '13 and maybe late '12 chassis parts were not properly prepped and painted and are degrading well before they should be. It's gotta be a QC issue and Chrysler needs to fix it.
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The bottom line is of course that it seems that the cast (and maybe forged) parts on many of our '13 and maybe late '12 chassis parts were not properly prepped and painted and are degrading well before they should be. It's gotta be a QC issue and Chrysler needs to fix it.
I could not agree more.

Has anyone received and official word from Chrysler on this issue? I hope they have this issue resolved before they start running the 10A models on Monday.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:47 AM   #98
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and regarding POR 15 or other methods of stopping this crap from ruining our resale value, if nothing else, if we have to start a thread on "best method to fix rust on your 1 month old Jeep" I'm betting it's gonna get ugly for Chrysler...
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Old 03-01-2013, 06:03 AM   #99
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My 2004 Wrangler that has been through six years of salted road winters is no where near that bad. I had to do a few light touch ups around frames welds last year.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:35 AM   #100
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My 2012 jku had little or no rust. 178.00 and the dealer sprayed the bottom. It smelled for a day or two
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:17 AM   #101
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I could not agree more.

Has anyone received and official word from Chrysler on this issue? I hope they have this issue resolved before they start running the 10A models on Monday.
The 10A is mainly a cosmetic package so the axles, steering components, etc., are identical to any other Rubicon. There is no reason to think they will make any special changes before they start producing them (which I read was not going to be until late March). The OP's vehicle seems to be an isolated case. Yes, there is some rust on other new vehicles, but nothing I've seen so far even comes close to the corrosion on his Jeep. Several in this thread have said their jeeps look as bad as his...but none have posted photos to back up those claims. Mine looks great underneath, and many others do also. There does, however, seem to be a quality control issue with the finishing on a lot of the components on some vehicles that Chrysler should address. Every jeep coming off the line does not include the Rust Package...and the OP's is the only one that appears to have the Corrosion Package.
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Old 03-01-2013, 10:10 AM   #102
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My 2012 purchased in October 2012. It has seen 1.5 New England winters.
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:09 AM   #103
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My 2012 purchased in October 2012. It has seen 1.5 New England winters.

Yeah that is the level of rust I would expect from a vehicle that lives in the NE, or anywhere a lot of salt is used one the roads. But dang your shocks look rough!

I was under my jeep last night installing my bumper and I really have hardly any rust given it being a year old and have been down a few hundred miles worth of gravel roads, 2 mid-west winters and drug over a bunch of rocks.
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The thing that strikes me in the photos of the OPs Jeep isn't the rust on the steel, but the very heavy oxidation/corrosion on all of the aluminum parts. Something happened to this Jeep, whether flood damage or some type of submersion in salt or caustic liquid.

Aluminum doesn't oxidize that bad in such a short time even when it's bare like on an engine component. I've seen Chevy aluminum LS motors and Dodge Hemi's, both all aluminum not look like this after years of use. Doing late model powertrain conversions on old hotrods, I've obtained many late model aluminum engines from salvage yards where they were exposed to the elements, out of the vehicle for months and didn't look this weathered.

Just looking at the aluminum oil pan and aluminum portion of the differential/driveshaft yokes, something is "REALLY" wrong on this unit.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:03 PM   #105
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I feel like I am at a Jeep Peep show. Everyone is pulling down their Jeep's underpants, and showing off their stuff.

Seriously though, I have a 2011 with 26k miles and it only has surface rust on the rotor. Nowhere else. This is BS. I am pissed on your behalf.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:47 PM   #106
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Update:

Dealership requested picts if VIN at the windshield, profile picture and odometer picture. Apparently my pictures were too large to send to Chrysler and he would like smaller versions.

Not sure if they thought I was driving it but i told the service manager that it is parked in the garage and I won't drive it until we have a resolution.

Chrysler Customer Care tried to reach me twice today but they left a message stating they spoke with the dealership.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:54 PM   #107
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Gez, looks like I'll be crawling under my '13 tomorrow.
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I was under mine yesterday. Bought in Dec, 3,000 miles and similar patterns of rust. It's not a DD so salt is probably not an issue. I only take it on the trail.
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Every jeep coming off the line does not include the Rust Package...and the OP's is the only one that appears to have the Corrosion Package.
My 10A didn't have these available when I ordered, honestly I hope they don't have them. Seriously though moabite, your post cracked, me up
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I was under a fiends 2013 Sahara and been through quite a bit if heavily salted roads so far this winter and it has 1800 miles on it. Nothing at all like the OP pictures. There is barely any rust under there and no corrosion that I could see.
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What was this corrosion package? I never heard of it.
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What was this corrosion package? I never heard of it.
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Is your drive shaft rusted and some of the wheel area components?

A very small amount of rust. I live in the desert. No salt put on the roads around here. No reason for rust to really start. I'm lucky to not have that issue.
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The 10A is mainly a cosmetic package so the axles, steering components, etc., are identical to any other Rubicon. There is no reason to think they will make any special changes before they start producing them (which I read was not going to be until late March). The OP's vehicle seems to be an isolated case. Yes, there is some rust on other new vehicles, but nothing I've seen so far even comes close to the corrosion on his Jeep. Several in this thread have said their jeeps look as bad as his...but none have posted photos to back up those claims. Mine looks great underneath, and many others do also. There does, however, seem to be a quality control issue with the finishing on a lot of the components on some vehicles that Chrysler should address. Every jeep coming off the line does not include the Rust Package...and the OP's is the only one that appears to have the Corrosion Package.

Here is a photo to back my claim. Right front picture. I have more if you would like them.
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Here is the left front. Sorry not sure why they are upside down
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Here is the left front. Sorry not sure why they are upside down
That rust definitely looks different than mine...I have a 1000 miles on mine and live in NEw England so I've been through a few snow storms/salt fests already... My rust in that area is likely surface as it looks like someone tool rust colored spray paint and misted it on... Looks to be on the metal, not IN the metal if that makes sense?, though in the photo the joint at the top (I don't know what it's called) is just as rusty as my drive shaft which everyone everywhere is saying is normal.
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Get yourself some aerosol rust converter (Rustoleum's is good) and go nuts.
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The thing that strikes me in the photos of the OPs Jeep isn't the rust on the steel, but the very heavy oxidation/corrosion on all of the aluminum parts. Something happened to this Jeep, whether flood damage or some type of submersion in salt or caustic liquid.

Aluminum doesn't oxidize that bad in such a short time even when it's bare like on an engine component. I've seen Chevy aluminum LS motors and Dodge Hemi's, both all aluminum not look like this after years of use. Doing late model powertrain conversions on old hotrods, I've obtained many late model aluminum engines from salvage yards where they were exposed to the elements, out of the vehicle for months and didn't look this weathered.

Just looking at the aluminum oil pan and aluminum portion of the differential/driveshaft yokes, something is "REALLY" wrong on this unit.

Exactly, something is not right here. Make sure they get pics of the aluminum!
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Get yourself some aerosol rust converter (Rustoleum's is good) and go nuts.
Followed by POR15.
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I looked at the OPs pics again. I believe either something (dirt/grease) was on those areas of the axle/suspension that are rusted so the paint didn't stick or something caustic got on there afterwards and dissolved the paint. I've been told that brake fluid will attack paint.

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