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Old 08-27-2013, 04:41 PM   #1
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Question 1st Jeep buy - confused in Texas

I am so confused. I am ready to buy a 2013/14 Wrangler. I have recently purchased ranch land that is very raw acreage with creeks, lots of rocks, steep hills, etc. I drove a Sahara and was really impressed with how it handled, however, I thought maybe the Rubicon would be the way to go since I will be driving on the land more than I will pavement.

I went into a dealership the other day ready to get the Rubi written up but the salesperson tried to steer me away from the Rubicon and from ordering a 2014. I'm pretty girly-girl looking and honestly do not know much about vehicles. He did a search for 2013 Sahara Unlimiteds and found one with almost everything I wanted but in a color I didn't like. I lost confidence in the salesperson and did not close the deal.

I would love to get the hydro blue, which I understand is being released in a few days? From what I have read in the forum, hydro blue will only be available in the Freedom Edition? Does anyone have advice about the Freedom? I really wanted Nav, leather seats with the Connectivity package and it doesn't look from the website like the Freedom offers these things. I wouldn't mind buying and getting the Jeep custom painted.

I apologize if I'm asking something that has already been answered. Thanks so much for your patience with me and any advice is greatly appreciated!

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Old 08-27-2013, 04:43 PM   #2
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have you tried the configurator on the Jeep site? He is probably trying to steer you away from the rubicon based on what you described your needs to be.

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I did try configuring what I want on the website. I guess what is hanging me up there is they have not allowed the 2014 options for the Wranglers to be available. And the hydro blue is not mentioned, of course.
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Old 08-27-2013, 04:50 PM   #4
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If you are going to be on raw land .. and really off the beaten path -- go with the Rubi it is a bit more capable off road than the Sahara. as stated above go the to configuator and configure your ideal Jeep .. if you go with the 10th Anniversary you get steel bumpers front and rear, rock sliders, and lockers ... all are a plus for off road. the best part .. you get to tell the sales person this is what I want now find it
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Old 08-27-2013, 04:53 PM   #5
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for the color availability you may have to go to the dealer and see if it is available and if the dealer has allocation to get that color-- the dealer will always try to sell you what he has on the lot, or what he can trade locally for -- last choice to lose a allocation.
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Ah, the 10th Anniversary...that sounds good. I guess I shouldn't get so hung up on color but they don't have my second choice (red) available in that. But I can do further research on the 10th Anniversary.
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typically these special packages off the Sport S are half leather, half cloth. Specials of the Rubicon or Sahara will have standard leather usually. They will open for allocation in two weeks so just sit tight and get what you want. If you are going to off road more, the Rubicon would serve you better if it is raw land you are on.
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I asked about color availability and I guess I will just need to get another salesperson/dealership. The manager wouldn't give any info on the hydro blue. Well, actually what he said is he has no idea of when it would be available.
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The 10A is pretty cool and they have some really nice speciality colors that are not available on the non 10A. Be patient and get the Jeep that you want not just what they have. Of course there are some options that you should be able to haggle with like the radio, 730 or 430, but the big stuff like color and model (rubicon) dont move on that will last for a very long time.
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Driving on land more than pavement? Get the Rubi....
Order exactly what you want...don't let the dealer try to steer you to something on the lot unless it happens to be EXACTLY what you want....
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I asked about color availability and I guess I will just need to get another salesperson/dealership. The manager wouldn't give any info on the hydro blue. Well, actually what he said is he has no idea of when it would be available.
Supposed to be a lot of info released on Sept 11, so I would read the latest on the 2014 Wrangler Information here on the 12th before I did anything. What part of Texas are you in.........someone might recommend a dealership? I'm waiting a couple of weeks before I buy.
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Seem like everyone in the Houston area gets their Jeeps for about 6% below invoice....
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Thanks, I live in Fort Worth. There are several dealerships around :-)
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welcome aboard !!! sounds like a rubicon would fit you just right. i would start searching these next 2 weeks to see what dealer will give you a price on what you want and i would go ahead and order one... if your looking for hydro blue thats freedom edition only color FOR THE TIME BEING, if you wouldn't mind going with red then you can easily order one of those right now even.

But never settle on something especially if your paying a big amount of money on it . good luck !! keep us updated.
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I can wait a couple of weeks. I wish I could wait longer into the year.
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Thanks, I live in Fort Worth. There are several dealerships around :-)
I'm in Fort Worth also......and not too impressed with our area dealerships. I get good reports on Huffines in Plano and Feldman River Oaks in Houston. I might even order mine from Pat at Field's in Chicago (a sponsor of this forum). He is the most knowledgeable that you will find.









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There is an idea .. order and have it delivered.
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Ask for Mark Gusman at River Oaks in Houston. Trust me. I bought my Jeep from him, I was very skeptical/nervous about buying a new vehicle (first one ever) and figured I'd get ripped off no matter how much I worked the deal (I'm a 100% commission salesman as well) but he really treated me well and I got a better price than I could find at any dealer in TX.
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All of you have been so helpful, and I really appreciate it!
I found a 2011 Rubicon with everything I want with only 8k on it. If I don't buy that, I will order the Rubicon in red. I definitely will post a pic :-D
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Make sure to drive both ... the 2011 drives very differently than the 2013 and 14
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Mark Guzman was a great salesperson when I was shopping as well. I didn't end up buying from River Oaks because they didn't have what I wanted, but he was very quick to answer questions and give me the bottom line over email without having to go into the dealership.

That said, had a great experience with Allen Samuels in Houston where I ultimately purchased from, but since you are in Ft. Worth that doesn't help much

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All of you have been so helpful, and I really appreciate it!
I found a 2011 Rubicon with everything I want with only 8k on it. If I don't buy that, I will order the Rubicon in red. I definitely will post a pic :-D
Always willing to help a girly-girl. The 2011 has a weaker engine than the new ones and probably not that much cheaper. If you can afford a ranch, you can afford to order a new Wrangler.....a Rubicon if possible. Supposedly on the 11th, they will open orders for Copperhead, Amp'd, Granite Crystal.........maybe the Rubicon X. Not sure about hydro blue or Freedom Edition. Stay tuned to the 2014 Wrangler Information Thread.
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I'm kind of afraid of the 2011 since I haven't driven it and have to pay over $500 just to transfer it in.
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Always willing to help a girly-girl. The 2011 has a weaker engine than the new ones and probably not that much cheaper. If you can afford a ranch, you can afford to order a new Wrangler.....a Rubicon if possible. Supposedly on the 11th, they will open orders for Copperhead, Amp'd, Granite Crystal.........maybe the Rubicon X. Not sure about hydro blue or Freedom Edition. Stay tuned to the 2014 Wrangler Information Thread.
Thanks, you guys are right. I will wait the next couple of weeks and order :-)
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Don't pay to transfer it in, go drive any 2011 first and you'll get some idea of how it handles. Try doing it back to back with a 2013 to compare.

Check out the 2014 thread for more details, Pat tries to keep the first post updated all the time. The new EVIC options alone make me want a 2014, I hope they find how to unlock it for the 2013's.

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I ordered my 2012 Rubi in August of 2011, about a month after the slots opened. I got it exactly how I wanted it. I secured financing and called around locally to ask dealerships if they would help me with an affiliate purchase. None of them called me back, so I called a dealership in Madisonville, TX that my family has a long standing relationship with. They placed my order promptly and it was a no BS experience all the way to driving it away in mid September.

Custom ordering is the way to go. There's lots of good advice here to help you choose the features you'll want. It'll arrive in your desired color, ready to be made your own.
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My experience with car salesmen is that it is rare to find one that knows the product line as well as the consumer that has done their homework. There are exceptions, but in general you are better off knowing exactly what you want before you go to a dealer. Do your research, decide what you want, and find a dealer that will get it for you.
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And someone bought a Rubicon X in Flame Red. I'm biased as I have an Anvil 10 with red seats but the Flame Red Rubi X gives it a serious run for its money. The 10A does not have unique colors(Anvil is now available on 2014s) and unless they are selling it to you really cheap, it would be best to go with a Rubicon X in the color you want with the options you want. Unless you want red leather seats. But hey, you bought a ranch, you can have Katzkin Red Leather installed!
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Seem like everyone in the Houston area gets their Jeeps for about 6% below invoice....
x2....sounds like the rubi is for you.... also ge t- exactly - what you want... the salesman wants to steer you from ordering because the orderd unit takes him longer to get the commission IMHO... some orders are going as quickly as 5 weeks.. rubi's are more capable out of the box... many offroaders go with the rubi or the sport with modifications....
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x3 for the Rubi I ordered mine last week in Red.

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