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Old 03-29-2012, 11:07 PM   #1
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1st oil change 2012

Made appointment today to have oil and filter changed. I only had 1350 miles on my WR. I envisioned the oil to be sooty black by now and my filter clogged by micro-particles of assembly grease and reside of cutting fluids and grinding coolants.

Showed up at 8 AM talked to the service rep and he asked me why I want it changed now? Said totally unnecessary until 8000 mi. He said new engines don't need break in anymore. You can tell when you're getting old I guess...

Anyway, I had them do it anyway.

I asked him about if they carried a premium oil and he said the "garage oil" was a synthetic blend. I asked him if that was the same oil the factory used? His answer was Uhhhh....... then crickets chirping.

Anyway long story short, they didn't charge me for the oil change. First one is free it turns out. Now my little 4WD crotch rocket is running slick as snot.

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Old 03-29-2012, 11:10 PM   #2
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I guess it doesn't hurt to change it that early. The way I see it, the more often you change fluids and maintain it well, the longer it will last

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Old 03-29-2012, 11:14 PM   #3
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I guess it doesn't hurt to change it that early. The way I see it, the more often you change fluids and maintain it well, the longer it will last
Agreed. Got a coupon for a free oil change from the dealer to use before the end of April and I currently have 251 miles on mine. I intend to use the coupon regardless.
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Old 03-30-2012, 05:49 AM   #4
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An early change won't hurt a thing. In fact there will be excess metals from break in wear, and junk from the engine build in that oil. Just send some in for an analysis if you don't think so, then send in some after you've got 20,000 miles or so on the engine and compare. These threads typically end in a heated debate, but its all good. This is JMO.
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:34 AM   #5
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My dealership gave me 4 free with purchase. I have changed at 500, will again soon at 1500, 3000, then to synethic at 6000. I have them put 5w30 conventional in although they wanted to use 5w20.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:25 AM   #6
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My Dealer included 4 free oil changes.
I did my first at 600 miles, will do the 2nd at 2000 miles, then switch to full synthetic at 3500 miles just my way not necessarily the best way.
I do not let the dealer touch my Jeep if I can help it. I went thru the mistakes the dealer did with my "Free" oil change on my GC Hemi. 5 quarts of No Name Oil instead of the 7 quarts of 5w20. There have been many posts about the wrong grade oil, quantity etc I really do not trust them.
If I could get them to just give me a few free oil filters it would be great.
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:35 AM   #7
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Is there a general rule on "break in" or not? Take it easy for the first 3000 miles, or jump in and head for Rubicon at 90 mph?
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Is there a general rule on "break in" or not? Take it easy for the first 3000 miles, or jump in and head for Rubicon at 90 mph?
I read something to the effect of take it real easy the first 65 miles then after that run it up to 55-60, keep varied speeds until 200 miles. Then head to the Rubicon!
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Old 04-01-2012, 03:20 PM   #9
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Modern oils are substantially better than oils of even just a few years ago and the tolerance of modern engine manufacturing really don't necessitate an early break-in oil change.

On the other hand, the Russian made Ural motorcycle that I owned in the 90's produced so many shavings in early oil changes that it looked like I was panning for silver and bronze..
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nice bike

hi, love that Russian bike...
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Old 04-01-2012, 06:13 PM   #11
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I did a change at 600 miles and was surprised at how dirty the oil looked.

Other than waiting for the fluid to drain an oil change in the 2012 takes about 5 minutes.
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Old 04-01-2012, 06:23 PM   #12
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I know it used to be good to change the oil at like 500 miles on a new engine, is this no longer the case? Is 8,000 miles really a good time?
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I know it used to be good to change the oil at like 500 miles on a new engine, is this no longer the case? Is 8,000 miles really a good time?
It's not so much to remove the material from parts wearing but to remove the assembly lube. According to my Subaru engine builder..
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:44 PM   #14
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I just got mine changed just under 3k (2200 of which was moving to CO) and the dealer asked why I wanted it done so early. Apparently the first 4 oil changes are free from the dealer so it didn't really matter.
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:24 PM   #15
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Thanks for the input! Seams like a smart thing to do to flush out assembly lube and any other particals. And for just a few buck after spending 37k to help long term use, I'm all over it.

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