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Old 10-21-2011, 07:10 AM   #31
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Any maybe next time take to dealer for oil change...
Nah, just think things through next time. There's no reason to put the new filter in and not tighten it down right away.

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Thanks everybody for the peace of mind. I'm a little more level headed this morning after driving in to work. Everything seemed fine and nothing sounded different (except for no radio which I definitely turned off to listen to the engine). The only problem is the engine light is still on, but like I said last night, it isn't flashing so it may just need a few good driving cycles as mentioned earlier.

I'm a little worried about overfill as one poster said his engine takes 5.5 quarts. I checked my dipstick and it had oil all the way to the top of the "XXXX" pattern. Would there be oil above that if it were overfilled?

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Would there be oil above that if it were overfilled?
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I'm just curious as to why you changed your oil after 500 miles? Were you bored? or is this common?
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ok, what did i miss....what caused it in the first place. didn't see it. did you not tighten the oil pan bolt....filter not on tight....just wondering. thats a lot of oil.

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A lot of the information I've gathered on this forum pointed me to changing at 500 miles in order to remove the factory oil that was used during the break-in period. You don't have to, as it isn't recommended from Chrysler, but it seems to me like an easy engine insurance policy to put some fresh oil in after break-in. That was until I forgot to screw in the oil filter and tried to kill my Jeep.

I checked the removed filter last night and there were metal flecks caught in the baffles so I'm glad I changed it. I know there are differing opinion on the necessity of this, but that's what I chose to do.
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I wouldn't worry about it too much. You didn't drive it too far, there was still oil in the engine, you didn't rev it too high AND even after the oil is out of the engine, there is still a light coating of oil on the moving parts.

Don't sweat it and don't do it again.

So now when somebody turns their Jeep into a submarine, we say they "Chadwicked" it.

Does that mean is somebody does the Jed Clampett during an oil change, we're going to say they "bigegriffed" it?

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ok, what did i miss....what caused it in the first place. didn't see it. did you not tighten the oil pan bolt....filter not on tight....just wondering. thats a lot of oil.

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Forgot to tighten the filter. As I was doing this for the first time, I wasn't sure if the filter needed to be loose to help the new oil drain into the engine. While in theory you do need a vent to allow new fluid to go in (somewhere for the air to escape when the new oil comes in) the oil filter probably didn't need to be loose for that to happen.

I had planned on installing the new filter after the new oil, but my steps got out of whack and I forgot to tighten it down, thus huge mess and me up most of the night freaking out.
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Does that mean is somebody does the Jed Clampett during an oil change, we're going to say they "bigegriffed" it?

You may have just become an infamous part of this website. CONGULATIONS!
Thanks...uh, I think. Happy to be a cautionary tale.
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Your malfunction indicator came on, the one that looks like the shape of an engine, not the oil pressure light that looks like the shape of an oil can? I'm guessing that there was enough oil present to prevent any damage in that short of a period of time. Perhaps the MIL came on because it detected that the filter was not secure? I wonder if leaving the oil fill cap off would trigger the same thing?
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Oh, and as far as making mistakes like that changing the oil, "professionals" do it all the time. Just do a google search for any of the quick oil change businesses and see how many times they forget to replace a drain plug or even forget to refill the oil.
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Oh, and as far as making mistakes like that changing the oil, "professionals" do it all the time. Just do a google search for any of the quick oil change businesses and see how many times they forget to replace a drain plug or even forget to refill the oil.
I would not call those "professionals".
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Forgot to tighten the filter. As I was doing this for the first time, I wasn't sure if the filter needed to be loose to help the new oil drain into the engine. While in theory you do need a vent to allow new fluid to go in (somewhere for the air to escape when the new oil comes in) the oil filter probably didn't need to be loose for that to happen.

I had planned on installing the new filter after the new oil, but my steps got out of whack and I forgot to tighten it down, thus huge mess and me up most of the night freaking out.
You're over thinking that waaaaaay too much. The oil fill cap is plenty large enough for air to escape. Remove the fill cap and drain your oil. When it is nearly a drip, change your filter (and proberly tighten it!). By then the oil will be barely dripping and you can replace the drain plug. Then fill with the proper amount of fresh oil. Start to finish should be less than twenty minutes. Most of that should be waiting for the oil to drain and cleaning up after.
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There’s only one thing that would scare me more than then engine blowing and that would be listing to my wife the whole way back to the dealership. I can hear it now, “see, I told you that you know nothing about cars. Why would you change your own oil when the dealer can do it? You better hope they don’t find out, Blah, Blah, Blah.”
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I can't believe some of you would commit blatant fraud by putting the original filter back on and try and blame it on the dealer.
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I can't believe some of you would commit blatant fraud by putting the original filter back on and try and blame it on the dealer.
On the other hand, if this happened at a dealership, as I'm sure it has many times, after they determined the engine was running fine do you think they'd tell the owner, or just close it up and call it good?
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Would it really matter since they did the oil change? If the motor blew, they were the last hands on it.


Nevermind. Just scam away. Forget I said anything.
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No worries 44. I'd bet (hope) most a joking. On the bright side, my MIL went off at startup when I was leaving the office so everything seems to be back to normal.

After tallying up the costs, even before the extra 6 quarts, it would have been just as cheap to take it to Sears or someplace like that. Why do you guys, if you do, change your own oil?
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Would it really matter since they did the oil change? If the motor blew, they were the last hands on it.


Nevermind. Just scam away. Forget I said anything.
Dealers don't pay for warranty repairs, they get paid by Chrysler to perform them. I have the feeling most dealers would have no problem with Chrysler footing the bill for their mistake.
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Why do you guys, if you do, change your own oil?
So that I can be sure that some idiot doesn't forget to tighten the oil filter.
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So that I can be sure that some idiot doesn't forget to tighten the oil filter.
Nice, I deserved that!
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No worries 44. I'd bet (hope) most a joking. On the bright side, my MIL went off at startup when I was leaving the office so everything seems to be back to normal.

After tallying up the costs, even before the extra 6 quarts, it would have been just as cheap to take it to Sears or someplace like that. Why do you guys, if you do, change your own oil?
I use better oil. I get to choose what fluids/consumables go into my vehicle.

I do a better job. (it's my vehicle and I care about it, it's not just an invoice or job #)

My incentive is for the Jeep to last longer, not a commission or turnaround time or some other job performance metric a tech is going to have.

I'm going to proactively look for other issues while I am doing the job, and not wait for the problems to arise (like most dealers do.)

Any tools I buy for the job I am going to keep, which is an investment.

I have a fleet of cars and bikes and it's more cost effective for me to do it myself.

It's a stress reliever and I enjoy wrenching on my vehicles.

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I use better oil. I get to choose what fluids/consumables go into my vehicle.

I do a better job. (it's my vehicle and I care about it, it's not just an invoice or job #)

My incentive is for the Jeep to last longer, not a commission or turnaround time or some other job performance metric a tech is going to have.

I'm going to proactively look for other issues while I am doing the job, and not wait for the problems to arise (like most dealers do.)

Any tools I buy for the job I am going to keep, which is an investment.

I have a fleet of cars and bikes and it's more cost effective for me to do it myself.

It's a stress reliever and I enjoy wrenching on my vehicles.

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When I was in my 20's just back from the Marines, I had purchased a 69 Camaro in Tennessee and drove it back to Massachusetts. I had lots of issues with it, one being a loose intake manifold and carburetor on a "rebuilt" engine. One day I had my girlfriend and her mom in the car and was driving it on 91 towards Hartford Connecticut just about at the exit that I wanted to get off at and she started pinging and shaking. Pulled it over and shut it down. My good friend who's father owned a garage came to my rescue. He found that the oil pressure gauge plastic hose had come off of the side of the engine and all of the oil had pissed out onto the highway. Went out and got some more oil and filled it until it read full. I had the same feeling as you had, got all nerved up about it. My friend told me that I did the best thing that I could which was to shut it down as soon as it had happened. I probably put an additional 50,000 miles on it after that and sold it for more than I paid for it. I really liked that car. Lots of good memories.

Like others have said, don't beat yourself up too badly over it. Soon, in the future, it will be just one more memory about your driving experiences and beginning mechanic experiences. I've never rebuilt a transmission before but my 92 YJ just presented me with a possible rebuild experience. I'm not going to shy away from it and you shouldn't shy away from turning wrenches on your jeep either. Best wishes on your continued super owner experience on your new jeep.
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It would make a pretty horrendous noise if it was running without oil. You're fine.
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No worries 44. I'd bet (hope) most a joking. On the bright side, my MIL went off at startup when I was leaving the office so everything seems to be back to normal.

After tallying up the costs, even before the extra 6 quarts, it would have been just as cheap to take it to Sears or someplace like that. Why do you guys, if you do, change your own oil?
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So that I can be sure that some idiot doesn't forget to tighten the oil filter.
This is better than "Mad Magazine"

I do my own also and KNOW what the oil/filter is and I can tear my self away from Reno news for at least 15 minutes-and I can grease my ZIRKS in that time period !

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I've heard you like to grease your zirks now and then.
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