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Old 01-10-2014, 08:19 PM   #1
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Hello all,
Yes im a newbie...not only to your site but to the JK world. Historically I get carried away with modding my vehicles, from a 1200 hp 07 dodge cummins truck to a 850hp Shelby gt500. I now jumped into your world. I purchase a 09 unlimited. What is the first recommended mods. I want it to look mean of course but realistically this is my daily driver and I don't get off road much (although I'm not against it) I'm not to concerned with money as I am with getting it fit the first time. It is a manual plain Jane kind of weak looking (at the moment) any and all help and opinions are appreciated

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Old 01-10-2014, 08:30 PM   #3
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Old 01-10-2014, 09:26 PM   #4
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Seems you're a candidate for a modest lift, say 2.5" along with custom rims and some good tires. Maybe 33's or 35's, depending on your taste.

Such a lift is functional, and really looks good.
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First thing I did was give It a 2.5" lift...now I'm going for wheels/tires (IMO the hardest decision is wheels/tires)
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:55 AM   #7
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I'm sure this has been beaten to a pulp but anyone recommend a lift. Is it ok to roll with spacers and get some decent shocks to improve the ride or does the Jk need a suspension to ride decent?
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I don't want to lift it to high but they really look nice on 35's
How much "lift" is needed to put a 33?and how much for a 35?
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I don't want to lift it to high but they really look nice on 35's
How much "lift" is needed to put a 33?and how much for a 35?
it depends on what you want it to look like and how much extra you want to spend. some people dont lift at all and are cometely happy with 33's and some people regear and get flat/open fenders and go with 35's. i personally have a 2.5" pro comp lift and am getting some 33's

someone else posted this and it was helpful to me..


"35s with stock flares and a 2.5 lift will rub = might look ok to some but to most it's not functional and looks stuffed.

35s with stock flares and a 3.0 or 3.5 lift will not rub = looks great and functional.

33s with stock flares and a 2.5 will not rub = looks great and functional."
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also...variables that have an effect on whether you get 33s vs 35s are if you have an manual/auto if you have a 3.21/3.73 gear 3.8/3.6L

disclaimer: this information is what i have interpreted to be true based on readings from this forum

a manual, 3.6L with either gears would be able to "handle" 35's depending on how hilly your area is and depending on how much giddy your willing to give up unless you have a 3.73 or better gear ratio

auto, 3.8L with 3.21 would "boggle down" unless it is regeared/rechipped
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I'm leaving now to go pick it up, it is a manual. Where or how would I discover the gear ratio? Ian a very functional person anyone have a pic of a jk with 33 and lil to no lift?
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Welcome to WF. Every year my wife and I go to the PAJeeps All Breeds Jeep Show. www.pajeeps.com Last year was a little different for her because she new she was ordering a new JK before the year was out. She spent the show looking at other Jeeps and deciding what she liked and what she didn't. She used that information to decide how she wanted to build her JK. I suggest you do something similar, either in person or through pictures. All you will get here is suggestions of what everyone likes on their JK instead of what you would like yours to be.
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Old 01-11-2014, 09:12 AM   #13
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I'm leaving now to go pick it up, it is a manual. Where or how would I discover the gear ratio? Ian a very functional person anyone have a pic of a jk with 33 and lil to no lift?
This thread is all about 33s and no lift on a jk, lots of pics here

Show me pics of 33's no lift

Starbrite posted this in another thread,

You can register at the Jeep Owners site, and if you have your VIN you can pull up your build sheet, so you can check to see what gears you have:

https://www.moparownerconnect.com/oc...nersLogin.aspx
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also...variables that have an effect on whether you get 33s vs 35s are if you have an manual/auto if you have a 3.21/3.73 gear 3.8/3.6L disclaimer: this information is what i have interpreted to be true based on readings from this forum a manual, 3.6L with either gears would be able to "handle" 35's depending on how hilly your area is and depending on how much giddy your willing to give up unless you have a 3.73 or better gear ratio auto, 3.8L with 3.21 would "boggle down" unless it is regeared/rechipped
Thought the 3.8L had 3.73 gear ratio...?
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Thought the 3.8L had 3.73 gear ratio...?
from what i have heard thats not exactly law...unless you have a rubicon, standard is 3.21 unless you upgrade at the factory
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For the 3.8 non-Rubi's.
3.21's were standard for manuals.
3.73's were standard for automatics.

In 2007, non-Rubi's could be ordered with 4.10's if I remember correctly.
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Thought the 3.8L had 3.73 gear ratio...?
The engine has nothing to do with gear ratio's. 3.8 equipped JK's came in all flavors of gear ratios. Early 07 X's (which changed to Sport in 10) even came with 4.10's.
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For the 3.8 non-Rubi's. 3.21's were standard for manuals. 3.73's were standard for automatics. In 2007, non-Rubi's could be ordered with 4.10's if I remember correctly.
Cool, google search turned up both so thank you for clarifying.

My 09X 4 speed auto has 3.73
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For the 3.8 non-Rubi's.
3.21's were standard for manuals.
3.73's were standard for automatics.

In 2007, non-Rubi's could be ordered with 4.10's if I remember correctly.
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Old 01-11-2014, 02:42 PM   #20
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I tried the vin page but it wouldn't come up for me. I love the jeep. In impressed with the ride. It has no balls but in used to a lot more so it will have to do (I'm trying not to tie up another 75g in a build) so I need tires and a lift now.
The vin is 1j4ga39199l737082 if anyone can tell me what gear ratio I have that would be great.

Any quick or simple tricks to getting more from the engine? Exhaust do anything? Programmer? Etc...
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Go to Jeep.com, click the create and account tab on the top right under owners. Once you have your account, you can go to 'learn and use' and then 'equipment' and you should get your VIN options.
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