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Old 07-06-2013, 08:55 AM   #1
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2.5": AEV vs TF

I've done a ton of research and have attempted to edumacate myself on both systems. I know there are threads on both and I've read most (I think). About to pull trigger and would just like your thoughts on why one might be a better choice in your opinion.

Background/Use: I will be running Duratracs 315/70/17 with 17x8.5 Level 8 Trackers. Daily driver. While I like to fancy myself a rugged off-roader, truth is I might average 1x per month off road and nothing crazy. 2013 CG JKUR.

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Old 07-06-2013, 09:12 AM   #2
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On this topic your mainly going to get just personal opinions. I have and like my aev 2.5lift works well foe me no complaints. One thing you might want to do regardless of which lift is get the aev brackets for the front control arms huge improvement in the ride quality

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Old 07-06-2013, 09:20 AM   #3
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On this topic your mainly going to get just personal opinions. I have and like my aev 2.5lift works well foe me no complaints. One thing you might want to do regardless of which lift is get the aev brackets for the front control arms huge improvement in the ride quality
Thanks for the feedback. Yes I figured there would be lots of opinions. But, there are some differences which I thought might be worthy of a more "technical" pros/cons. For example, variable spring rates (AEV) vs not, new track bar and tower (AEV) vs just a tower (TF), etc.

Since both are 2.5" lifts, I'm just wondering how/why there are differences in design and if there is one that is better for my application (based on facts or pros/cons).

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From what i gathered before i bought mine was the aev was a more on road lift than the others but i have had no issues from the off roading that i have done with it
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Old 07-06-2013, 10:01 AM   #5
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I researched for a month before I purchased. I was looking at the aev and the teraflex they seem to be the two that are the most popular. I ended up going with the teraflex and it rides great. You really cant go wrong with either one as both are great kits. Don't forget about Metalcloak, it is supposed to be an excellent product as well.
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Old 07-06-2013, 10:30 AM   #6
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It really depends on what you want to pay for a lift
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Old 07-06-2013, 11:35 AM   #7
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I have the AEV 2.5 and the same tires on my 13jkur, I'm getting 17.5 mpg after the procal
The lift is great, easy to install, rose is better then stock even with the duratracs
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I have the AEV 2.5 and the same tires on my 13jkur, I'm getting 17.5 mpg after the procal
The lift is great, easy to install, rose is better then stock even with the duratracs
Thanks Spyder! Would you mind posting up some pics with the 2.5 aev and the 315 duratracs? I'd love to see it (same color as mine too!). Front, side, rear and any other jeep porn ya might have
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Had experience with both, AEV is a better street ride. Unless you are planning on upgrading the control arms with the TF, I'd go AEV. No drop down brackets on the 2.5 AEV to get in the way. Biggest difference is the spring rate on the coils... AEV
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That's with the geo correction brackets, the ride is sweet
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that's with the geo correction brackets, the ride is sweet
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That's with the geo correction brackets, the ride is sweet
That is one very nice JK,... well played
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That is one very nice JK,... well played
thank you sir !!!
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Bottom line in my book was ...........
Do you want "correction brackets" or "adjustable control arms"
You need to sit down and think about it.
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I java a TJ but I met some of the AEV guys at a car show and it seemed like a great system. One thing that stuck out to me was that they did a track test and the lifted jeep could go faster around corners and had less body roll. Again I don't have a JK or an AEV lift and it was a salesman talking, but it seemed interesting
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Went back and forth between the 2 myself. Decided on the AEV for a few reasons, progressive rate springs, all the great reviews, just seems like a better overall kit, plus its made in USA.
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This is a dumb reason, but I trust the AEV logo more than the TF one ;-)

When its time for me to purchase, think I'll be going AEV, but for reasons other than the logo ;-)
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That's with the geo correction brackets, the ride is sweet
thanks man. looks like the same set up i am planning (aev, 315 duratracs, flat fenders). Thanks for the pics. Your rig looks awesome. Can i ask, what is the backspace on your wheels? I was planning the level 8 trakcers 17x8.5 which is 4.5" backspacing. I'm assuming that's good for the 35's.
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Bottom line in my book was ...........
Do you want "correction brackets" or "adjustable control arms"
You need to sit down and think about it.
So...is doing the AEV kit....and using adjustable control arms (instead of the correction brackets) a legit way to do it? If so, how does one know how to adjust them. For example, the brackets just bolt in and you use the existing arms. With adjustable arms, what do you use as a guide for how long? Is the goal to get the arm parallel with the ground?

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So...is doing the AEV kit....and using adjustable control arms (instead of the correction brackets) a legit way to do it? If so, how does one know how to adjust them. For example, the brackets just bolt in and you use the existing arms. With adjustable arms, what do you use as a guide for how long? Is the goal to get the arm parallel with the ground?

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There no right or wrong way to do it. The brackets are freakin amazing. They do things mid arms can't. The only negative running them IMO is not having bushings utilizing stock arms.

Don't over analyze this. Install the lift and drive.
You have handling issues ? Decide then what your next move will be.
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To confuse the crowd more

-front lowers only for caster
(uppers and lowers)
- lowers for wheel base
- uppers for caster or pinion

-Rear uppers only for pinion
(Uppers and lowers)
- lowers for wheel base
- uppers for pinion

Lowers generally set the wheel base back to stock or better. The axles get pulled in and rotated up when lifting.
Uppers set caster and pinion angles

The brackets adjust caster and change instant center. Also flatten the arms simulating a long arm. Bolt on mid arms can't do this.
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There no right or wrong way to do it. The brackets are freakin amazing. They do things mid arms can't. The only negative running them IMO is not having bushings utilizing stock arms.

Don't over analyze this. Install the lift and drive.
You have handling issues ? Decide then what your next move will be.
Thanks kjeeper10. Just gotta clear the credit card before making the purchase so figured I'd learn as much as possible in the meantime Overanalyze...who me...never
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Low caster won't cause the jeep to be undriveable. Worst case the steering will feel lose and wander. The brackets if you decide to install can be removed easily and sold for 75% of cost.
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So...is doing the AEV kit....and using adjustable control arms (instead of the correction brackets) a legit way to do it? If so, how does one know how to adjust them. For example, the brackets just bolt in and you use the existing arms. With adjustable arms, what do you use as a guide for how long? Is the goal to get the arm parallel with the ground?

Thanks for all the responses, everyone.

Directions will give you a very good approximate length to set the arms. For most folks like me that works great. The rest of the folks take their Jeep in for a alinement. A few guy's that I know (2) of them removed their AEV brackets and went to arms. They were tried of hitting the factory arms on stuff. Those AEV brackets do lower your arms towards the ground. Adjustable control arms sit higher. For some folks they never hit their arms with the bracket set up. Now sit back and think about it
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"""" The brackets if you decide to install can be removed easily and sold for 75% of cost.""""

That is a very good point............

Same goes for Adjustable Control Arms.

However I have not heard of anyone removing and selling their control arms to buy the AEV brackets.
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Our friend goody with AEV brackets. Yep

YES, the do hang lower. but these brackets are stronger than the factory mounts.
A lot cheaper. You want to change to adjustable arms down the road, you still can.

I ran just lowers for over a year. Problem with just lowers. Setting for caster/pinion only did nothing for wheel base. Instead of doing uppers, I wanted to try the brackets. For $99 Why not ?

Now I don't want to get rid of them if I hit them, I hit them. Nothing a hammer can't fix
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Our friend goody with AEV brackets. Yep

YES, the do hang lower. but these brackets are stronger than the factory mounts.
A lot cheaper. You want to change to adjustable arms down the road, you still can.

I ran just lowers for over a year. Problem with just lowers. Setting for caster/pinion only did nothing for wheel base. Instead of doing uppers, I wanted to try the brackets. For $99 Why not ?

Now I don't want to get rid of them if I hit them, I hit them. Nothing a hammer can't fix
I agree to the above.....
And I am bringing up points of thought also.
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So if AEV has a great ride (coils) would one debate (for this thread) the best set up would be the, AEV Coils, Bilstein shocks,
and the TF adjustable control Arms.

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