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Old 01-05-2011, 02:18 PM   #1
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2 Cents on rotating spare tire?

Do you? Dont you?

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Old 01-05-2011, 02:20 PM   #2
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Yes. Absolutely.

There's a special pattern for five-tire rotation that folks use. I could dig it out but someone with it in memory will likely beat me to it . . . .

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Front tires wear the worst faster than rear tires. So rotate the spare into the front passenger tire (or driver's, doesn't matter really) and bring one front tire to the rear, other one to the rear. Always try to have the best tire treads up front, worst on as the spare so that the others will wear 'down' to match evenly. Old wives' tail about never swapping tires one side to the other, only time you DON'T do that is with 'directional tread' tires-those must stay on the same side all the time. Most tires can be swapped side to side and front to back. For best results and tire life, swap them twice a year...at the beginning of your offroad season, and half way through. Keeps things even.
I used to sell tires...not just flapping my mudflaps here.
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Old 01-05-2011, 02:32 PM   #4
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The reason I am asking is because I have to take mine it for roation and oil change. Service guy is trying to convince me that this is hardly done....actually said about 90% of people dont do this. I never did mess with the spare on my truck but I also never wheeled in my truck.

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You (and I) don't do that on the truck because it's under the bed and doesn't match the other wheels and tires. (except in size)

I just bought new tires and wheels on the Jeep and I absolutely will do a five tire rotation for the life of the tires? Why? Because I paid for five tires, and I might want a different tire by the time I wear these out. If I don't use all 5 I will have wasted the spare.
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Yes. Absolutely.

There's a special pattern for five-tire rotation that folks use. I could dig it out but someone with it in memory will likely beat me to it . . . .
Don't have it memorized, but it's in the owners manual.
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Service guy is trying to convince me that this is hardly done....actually said about 90% of people dont do this.
Might be true in general or for other vehicles, but not among the Wrangler owners on this forum. There might be some folks here who've never bothered or just accepted what their service guy told them, but I'll be surprised if anybody here actually recommends against five-tire rotation.
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You (and I) don't do that on the truck because it's under the bed and doesn't match the other wheels and tires. (except in size)

I just bought new tires and wheels on the Jeep and I absolutely will do a five tire rotation for the life of the tires? Why? Because I paid for five tires, and I might want a different tire by the time I wear these out. If I don't use all 5 I will have wasted the spare.

^^^ My thoughts also...
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^^^ My thoughts also...
Yup yup yup...what he said.
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I always rotate my spare in, just so underlings on the hiwy, don't say !!

"Oh look a jeep" and that hick never rotates his spare, it still has all the little rubber tits onit--

Thats the only reason I rotate my spare ()

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Don't have it memorized, but it's in the owners manual.
My 2010 manual curiously assumes I've only got 4 tires. BUT, you've inspired me to look over my old threads . . . .

I once asked about rotation in this thread. There, I was told: "The spare should go to your right rear. The right rear should go to your right front. The right front should go to the left rear. The left rear should go to the left front and the left front becomes the new spare."

I asked what difference could it possibly make, and was told: "The rotation method he stated (the one I've always used, mind you) is intended to produce the longest and safest wear from your tires. It also puts the freshest rubber to the right rear, the hardest point on the vehicle for you to see & judge. It's a clever pattern that's stood the test of time."

Seems sensible.
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I don't rotate the spare, but would never say don't do it. I guess i'm not concerned about the extra few months I might get out of them. Besides, I don't mind if anyone on the road has nothing better to do than look at my Rubi's tire ...s.
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hey mth, what is the stock tire that comes with our mtn editions? is it a km or km2?
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My 2010 manual curiously assumes I've only got 4 tires. BUT, you've inspired me to look over my old threads . . . .

I once asked about rotation in this thread. There, I was told: "The spare should go to your right rear. The right rear should go to your right front. The right front should go to the left rear. The left rear should go to the left front and the left front becomes the new spare."

I asked what difference could it possibly make, and was told: "The rotation method he stated (the one I've always used, mind you) is intended to produce the longest and safest wear from your tires. It also puts the freshest rubber to the right rear, the hardest point on the vehicle for you to see & judge. It's a clever pattern that's stood the test of time."

Seems sensible.
When I had my tire shop in the early '70s, Goodyear was just starting the steel belt radial production and we were trained to put the spare on the LEFT REAR and move the left to left front, left front to spare-NEVER CROSS ROTATE STEEL RADIALS-

Well, now here it is 40 years later and I still rotate my tires that way-simple/easier and has nothing to do with wear statistics on a JEEP and why the hell do want a NEW tire on your RIGHT REAR on a JEEP ?????

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hey mth, what is the stock tire that comes with our mtn editions? is it a km or km2?
255-75-R17. BFG Mud-Terrain T/A KM.
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are the km's and km2's the same size? i'm wondering if i would have a problem swapping the km's for km2's for my next set of tires
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Figuer letter g is for rearwheel and 4 wheel drive
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90% of owners don't because 90% of service techs are too lazy to do it!
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I once asked about rotation in this thread. There, I was told: "The spare should go to your right rear. The right rear should go to your right front. The right front should go to the left rear. The left rear should go to the left front and the left front becomes the new spare."

Seems sensible.
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The nice thing about this method (or the "G" Rearward-cross from Trunz150's post) is that for the do-it-yourselfer, you can do it by only jacking up each side of the Jeep once.
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are the km's and km2's the same size? i'm wondering if i would have a problem swapping the km's for km2's for my next set of tires
I know squat about tires, but I can say that TireRack doesn't appear to offer the KM2s in that size.

Here's the KMs: (BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM)
Here's the KM2s: (BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM2)

That said, I'd think you could get away with the 285-70-R17, which would be a little bigger. Better to ask somebody who knows for sure though.
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The stock 32" BFG's is the biggest tire you can put on a JK/JKU-


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I know squat about tires, but I can say that TireRack doesn't appear to offer the KM2s in that size.

Here's the KMs: (BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM)
Here's the KM2s: (BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM2)

That said, I'd think you could get away with the 285-70-R17, which would be a little bigger. Better to ask somebody who knows for sure though.
Without doing ANYTHING-as soon as you increase the width/height-you start having to make changes-

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thanks MTH. i hate the white writing on the km2's
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The stock 32" BFG's is the biggest tire you can put on a JK/JKU- Without doing ANYTHING-as soon as you increase the width/height-you start having to make changes- JIMBO
Really? I could've sworn I'd heard that folks were squeezing 33s under there without any changes, but maybe not.

I'm getting some SpiderTrax put on tomorrow anyway and will probably boost a little with some HD springs, so it don't much matter to me!! Sorry for the highjacking . . . .

Back to five tire rotation. Love the diagram Trunz!
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I thought 33s would fit but 35s need the fenders trimmed?
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40s will fit, there ain't no free lunchs anymore-read my previous post , #22!


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I thought 33s would fit but 35s need the fenders trimmed?
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I've had dealerships refuse to do the 5 tire rotation...until I told the service manager that irregardless of what HE thought, I didn't want to end up with a 5th tire never used! The actual mechanic/grease monkey told me they were told to only swap 4 tires so it would take less TIME to do the 'free' tire rotation for life! But I also sold tires for awhile running a service station (back in the 70's) and 5 wheel rotation was what we were told to do to keep all tires even. So don't let anyone bullshirt you...have that 5th tire rotated in. Tire styles change and if you need to replace a tire or two a couple years down the road...no worries about having to buy a couple of different tires and ending up with a mismatched 'new' spare still hanging on the back!
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40s will fit, there ain't no free lunchs anymore-read my previous post , #22!




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I think your just messing with me now... Im not sure 40's would fit with standard Fenders..
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I think your just messing with me now... Im not sure 40's would fit with standard Fenders..
The way the JK/JKU suspension and steering is-as soon as you go over the stock MAX size, you'll have to modify something-it may not be much, but will need to change SOMETHING --

Yea there are guys that have put on 33s and had no trouble, but thats not the average JK/JKU owner-

If you just have some 33' slapped on your stock wheels and attached to your jeep-things are gonna change !!

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are the km's and km2's the same size? i'm wondering if i would have a problem swapping the km's for km2's for my next set of tires
I was hoping to do the same thing, but it looks like that won't be possible on a stock Jeep. Not sure why BFG doesn't make the KM2 in that size.

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