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Old 05-07-2009, 05:59 PM   #1
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2 door or 4?

What are yalls thoughts and opinions? I can currently get a wrangler x for about the same price as a 2wd unlimited x. If i jump for the 4wd on the unlimited it will be about 3,000 more. I will be driving in the city a good bit but like to go camping, climbing, mountain biking, and offroading when i get a chance. As far as daily driving goes how much better is the hard top over the soft? I would like to have both but money may be an option. The first thing i would probably do to either is add a smaller lift and bigger wheels and tires. For what i am interested in what do yall think would be the better choice?

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I'd take the 2 door 4WD over the 4 door 2WD. But I don't have kids to drag around so I don't need all that space. The 4WD will have better resale value if and when you decide to sell it.

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Thanks for the welcome. I prefer the 4wd for sure. I am going to test drive a couple on monday. I am sure that will help make up my mind as far as soft top vs hard and everything else.
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We have a quite a few JK owners who will be able to help you with your decision on the top. To me hard tops look better on JK's than they do on TJ's and YJ's. I like soft tops.
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I agree with 4point & I don't get why anyone would buy a 2 wd Jeep. You would be looking to upgrade before long if you did get one. I like the hard top, but have a soft top as well because it came with the Jeep, don't think I will use it tho' cause' I find them a bit hot
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I like the soft top also but as far as using it as a DD also i don't like how easily a thief can get through a soft top.
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^ That by far is the biggest disadvantage to a soft top. I live way out in the country so I don't have to worry about that to much. Heck most of the time I leave my keys in it.
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I have both tops. I just put the soft top on in late April and will keep it on until September or October. I have enjoyed using both tops. During hot days I enjoy having the top down shades on and the wind in my hair and circulating all throughout the car. Stereo turned up and just cruising along. I am looking forward to being up in NH this summer with it. Around town having the top down is fun. Long trips on a highway may not be so fun with the top down. Most important is the having fun part. I live in New England. If I were in a warmer climate I might opt for just the soft top.
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Welcome to the group.
FWIW, we just bought an 09 Sahara 4x hard top and love it.
I agree with 4 point. Hard tops look sbetter on the JK than a soft top.
Iv ridden in a few with the ragtop and it seemed noiser than the hard top but that may just be me.
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Noise is slightly louder in the soft top but most folks who have them and enjoy them are willing to trade a little noise for the effects of having the top down. If you enjoy the air moving around you on a hot day instead of using the air conditioning then maybe a soft top will work for you. Some jeepers leave the top on year long here in New England. It lets more cool air in during the winter but the heater will offset that. This allows people to not have to use the other top. Some that have both tops will sell their hard top when they realize that they don't have to take the soft top off during the winter. So far I like the hard top in the winter.

BTW I agree with the comments above suggesting 4WD over 2WD. Resale is an important part of ownership. I always own my cars for a long time. My guess is that the jeep will be with me even longer than I usually keep one. Resale will be even more important then. More important than that is the enjoyment that you get while you own it. Good luck on your decision.
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Oh yah, welcome to the forum.

My decision on four door vs two door was mainly because of the towing capacities. I wanted the full 3500 lb capacity.

The longer wheel base was one of the side benefits. It seems more stable than the 2 door. Less rocking in bumpy situations.

I think they said that test results show the four door is more difficult to flip in a sudden steering change situation such as in collision avoidance. This might be important if the vehicle is used a lot in family situations.
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Most definitely get the 4wd 2-dr if those are your two options. Not knocking those who have 2wd JK's, some folks are happy with whatever they get and that's cool, but as stated you'll have better resale in the future and I'd be willing to bet you'll be really glad you went with the 4wd option in the near term. If you have small children, car seats in the back of a 2dr would be torture to the parents..fortunately my dauthers are teens, so a simple "get in, sit down, buckle up and hold on tight" works just fine
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How about a little more info.
If it is just for you ... I would say go with the 2 door.
That would give you plenty of room for your camping gear and mountain bike in the back if you remove the seat.
Since it sounded like you were doing a lot of short trips and city driving either top would be fine.
Pick the vehicle that is good for what you will be doing MOST of the time.
No one vehicle can do everything best.
I like the 2 door and hard top. The panels pop off in a minute and it is a lot safer if you park in the city and need to worry about having any stuff inside getting ripped off. With the soft top one zipper and they can have anything they see. If you have 2 people the hard top can be removed in 5 minutes. Unscrew 4 torx screws on each side, unplug window wash hose and wiper plug grab bottom edge and lift.
You can leave the front pannels on, that way you will still be able to see the nav /radio display. With the pannels off it has a very bad glare and is tough to see. You get a nice breeze without cooking yourself in the sun.
If you are going to tow something like a boat or ATV/UTV get the 4 door.
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In many ways the 4dr is more practical than the 2dr, but where does one draw the line on being practical? There is a fun factor involved, too. For better or not, I went with the 2dr. And as stated by others, 4wd is the way to go. IMHO.

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I like the soft top also but as far as using it as a DD also i don't like how easily a thief can get through a soft top.
and for this very reason i leave the jeep wide open everything unlocked than they have an easier time finding out there is nothing in it and i dont pay for new windows.
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^^ Thanks for that comment azlenny, my soft top use is still new and trying to figure out the details. That comment helps to put things in perspective.
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I drive the 4dr soft top 70 miles roundtrip to work on the interstate and the road noise can be a little loud. With that being said I like the wind and sun so I'll drive the back roads top down as much as possible.
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Thanks for all of the post guys. Hopefully this upcoming week i will be posting some pictures as a new jeep owner!
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For me the 4dr was a must because of the carseat in the back for a 5 1/2 yr old but also because of the extra room for projects/carting stuff and moving more people. I like the look of the 4dr and the xtra wheel base provides a stabler ride. It is preference. I have both tops and a garage (in NJ)..so when it rains I just drive the wife's car and I leave the soft top down as much as possible. its pretty secure with doors on/windows up and top down...but just be sure not to leave anything you can't live without in the car! I found the soft top pretty quiet even at highway speeds. I was very impressed. Make a decision for what you need...good luck!
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I just looked at a 2009 Sunburst Orange 6 speed Wrangler 2dr ragtop. The dealer had put on mickey thompson wheels and tires. I think the tires were mickey thompson baja mtz and 285/70/R17 if i remember correctly. i really liked it but didn't have the time to take it for a test drive. They were asking 21k with the wheels and tires included, but i am sure i can talk them down some from there. What do yall think about that price? This is also with them offering me 4.75 for 66 months.
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4point where do you live that you can leave your keys in the jeep??
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My wife and I both agreed on the 2 door! we have an 09' Sahara sunburst orange hardtop automatic.
We test drove a couple of 4 doors and both times we felt it was bigger than we need. Nothing wrong with the vehicle.. nothing wrong with performance.. it felt good to drive etc etc.
we just felt more comfy in the 2 door! We didn't need the extra space in the back.
The only problem... since we have an awesome 2 door... we found we are a bit limited with a few things. We have a 60 lb boxer mix that "OWNS" the back of the jeep... lol We find that in order to go camping or out kayaking or even on long trips with the dog... it is very crowded in the back and "Buddy" has no room to stretch.
In our opinion that is the only reason to have gone with a 4 door!
We now have to think creatively how to pack. We are planning on a very small utility trailer for tent, camping gear and Kayak (we have a Folbot... folding kayak in two duffle bags.) On long trips we may go for a hitch cargo carrier.
We feel better in the 2 door... so we just have to pack better etc.
However... that being said.... I see many more 4 doors out and about than I do 2 doors (at least in the new JK style Jeeps) even on the forums... there are plenty of 4 door jeep pictures.
Either way... go with 4WD!
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picnic, My fiancee and I actually have a 70lb rottweiler/lab mix which is one of the main reasons I am getting rid of my regular cab truck.
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I went two door, I am done with hauling kids around and when I do, they can suffer climbing in the back. I usually keep the back seat folded up. 4WD, no question, no point to get a wrangler without it. Another advantage of the 2 door, I can do a U-y anywhere! Haven't had to do a three point turn since I bought the thing! LOL!
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I see from your profile that you are in the Lawrenceville-Athens area. Have you checked with Mall of Ga Chrysler Jeep? They just made us a great deal on a 4dr 4WD X with the dual top option. We definitely needed the room and 4WD is not optional for us.

If your needs don't require the 4DR, then I agree with other posters - go for the 4WD & 2DR.
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and for this very reason i leave the jeep wide open everything unlocked than they have an easier time finding out there is nothing in it and i dont pay for new windows.
Same here- I make sure I never lock my Jeep, and never leave anything of value in it when it's parked at a mall or someplace like that (I detatch & carry my satellite radio receiver with me).

For me, a solid chunk of a Jeep's appeal is the convertible top. So if I had to choose between soft top & hard, I'd go soft any day of the week. I live in Ohio, so it's too cold to take the top down 9 months out of the year, but man... those 3 months are sweet...
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I don't think that a 4WD 2 door will have that much higher resale value then a 4 door 2WD. If you were comparing between 4WD & 2WD, both being 4 door models then that would be true and I would agree with the comments above but I think space is important to a lot of buyers, especially families with kids. Another thing to consider, is better fuel economy. Over 100,000 miles you will save over a thousand dollars or so at $2.5/gallon. So in the end I don't know if you really come out that much better. I think the decision should be more about your needs rather then resale. If you do a lot of extreme off-roading amd mudding then certainly go with the 4WD 2 door. If you are just buying it for light trail riding and street cruising then personally I'd get the 4 door. More room for passengers and other gear. It really all depends on what you want to do with your Jeep.
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We didn't need the extra space in the back.
The only problem... since we have an awesome 2 door... we found we are a bit limited with a few things. We have a 60 lb boxer mix that "OWNS" the back of the jeep... lol We find that in order to go camping or out kayaking or even on long trips with the dog... it is very crowded in the back and "Buddy" has no room to stretch.
In our opinion that is the only reason to have gone with a 4 door!
We now have to think creatively how to pack. We are planning on a very small utility trailer for tent, camping gear and Kayak (we have a Folbot... folding kayak in two duffle bags.) On long trips we may go for a hitch cargo carrier.
We feel better in the 2 door... so we just have to pack better etc.
However... that being said.... I see many more 4 doors out and about than I do 2 doors (at least in the new JK style Jeeps) even on the forums... there are plenty of 4 door jeep pictures.
Either way... go with 4WD!
If you had it to do over again would you have chosen the 4 door?

I have this trailer and love it. I got it with just about all of the bells and whistles. I also have the size B tongue extension so that my 16 foot kayak fits. I put the kayaks on the top bar and camping equipment in large plastic boxes that strap down to the lower level when doing short camping trips. I strip it down to its minimum configuration and put the trailer in this trailer 6X10 when going on long camping trips. The covered utility trailer I had ladder racks mounted on top where my kayaks (4) go while getting to the camp site then they come off the top and go on the smaller trailer after I pull it out of the utility trailer. This is the major reason I got the 4door is because of the weight limit of 3.5K lbs. Besides my kayaks on top and trailer within I also put bikes and bike carrier, all my camping gear and scuba equipment etc. With all of this in the trailer I usually disappear for 2 or more weeks at a time.

I had all of this in mind when I purchased mine that is why I got the 4 door and I'm happier with my Rubicon compared to my former Sahara.

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I have a 2 door and love it except when I am the one that has to pick up the kids then it is tough lifting a two year old into the back seat... Otherwise I like the looks of the 2 doors better but it is more of a play car than a daily driver...
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Thumbs up 4wd 2 door

just got my first jeep this past weekend and i am loving it. i dont know why someone would buy a 2wd jeep, that even sounds wrong. i got an new 09 wrangler x, crank windows and 6 speed, only option was a/c. it is a blast to drive. now i know why people love them. i think i got a good deal. i paid 16,800 before tax tag title.

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