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Old 10-02-2011, 02:15 PM   #1
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Talking 2 Door or 4 Door that is the question

So my wife and I recently decided that we needed an additional and bigger fun car due to the addition of our first child. I have had a Trans Am since 1998 but now 2 seats just wont do. We thought about buying a new Camaro or Challenger but then we decided that we simply dont have that much good weather in West Virginia. My neighbor bought a 2009 JK 2 door. He and his wife have no children and have a blast with the Jeep. I have always wanted a Jeep so I thought this would be a great opportunity to get one. Its probably the most practical fun vehicle there is.

My wife and I went to the Jeep dealer we immediately went 2 different directions. I was looking at the 2 door soft tops with 6 speed manual transmissions- $24,000. She was looking at the 4 door hardtops with Automatic transmissions, and bells and whistles-$32,000.

Just so you have the whole picture we have a 2011 Toyota Sienna AWD Van a 2011 Ford F-250 Extended Cab Diesel 4X4 and a 1998 WS6 Trans Am. This Jeep wont be anybodys everyday car and will probably see less than 8,000 miles per year.

So I'm sure you can already see the different sides. I want a true Jeep something that is not to expensive that if it gets a little scratch or rains inside of it no real big deal.

She is wanting something 4 door that is easier to get the baby in and out of and she thinks its safer because its bigger and..........

I'm sure there are some people on here who have experience with car seats and JK' so please speak up so I dont make an expensive mistake.

Let me say that this site is a great wealth of knowledge and a wonderful since of community seems to be the theme. So I'm excited about joining we just have to figure out 2 door Base or 4 Door with options?

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Go with your gut

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But honestly, if it's not your everyday DD go 2 door. ( my biased opinion)

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I have 2 door. Love it. And no prob with kids in back. Had two car seats before. Also regularly carry a 10 and 11 year old around.
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I have 2 door. Love it. And no prob with kids in back. Had two car seats before. Also regularly carry a 10 and 11 year old around.
If only the Jk had the fold and tumble like the Tj had.
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If only the Jk had the fold and tumble like the Tj had.
What's that? The way the front seat folds up?
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What's that? The way the front seat folds up?
Ya, the Tj seat lifted and tilted forward. The seat pretty much touched the dash allowing full access to the rear. The jk passenger seat just slides forward a bit more.
I've read that it could not be done because of all the electronics (air bag sensors) under the seat.
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People will tell you the four door is handier, with more room. It is also more SUV-like.

The two door wrangler is fun, and has plenty of room for just about anything. It's short wheelbase makes it a hoot to drive, and it's pure Wrangler.

I take heat for this opinion... but if I were buying a four door automatic with a hardtop, I wouldn't buy a Wrangler. There are better four door hardtop automatics for thiry k, but there isn't a better two door four by four with a ragtop made for less than twenty four.
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Old 10-02-2011, 03:00 PM   #8
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I went with 4dr because of the ease of access to the kids in the back, and the larger trunk space. You know those suckers require alot of crap, especially if you start going camping or wheeling with them!!
What year are the jeeps you are looking at? If new(sounds like with the price), just have em order exactly what you want!

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People will tell you the four door is handier, with more room. It is also more SUV-like.

The two door wrangler is fun, and has plenty of room for just about anything. It's short wheelbase makes it a hoot to drive, and it's pure Wrangler.

I take heat for this opinion... but if I were buying a four door automatic with a hardtop, I wouldn't buy a Wrangler. There are better four door hardtop automatics for thiry k, but there isn't a better two door four by four with a ragtop made for less than twenty four.
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The 2dr JK, is more traditional jeep, but

If you have to drive far/carry bunchs/bring kids/sleep inside--then the 4dr is the way to go

The only things a 2dr will do that a 4dr can't, is turn sharper/ tow easier and flip over backwards quicker-

If you want the traditional jeep get the JK-

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If you buy a two door, I doubt you will be able to have the child ride in it until he/she is two years old. Reason: not sure how you place a kid into a backwards facing car seat. After that, it will be easy as he/she will be able to climb in the car seat themselves. I would take my car seat into a dealer and start playing with it to see what is possible. I had a '95 two door with 5 and 7 year old and it was a lot of fun. Now the kids are grown and I have a '12 two door with no seat so the dog can jump in the back.
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Ya, the Tj seat lifted and tilted forward. The seat pretty much touched the dash allowing full access to the rear. The jk passenger seat just slides forward a bit more.
I've read that it could not be done because of all the electronics (air bag sensors) under the seat.
the 2011 and newer JK front seat is a fold and tumble... Not like the TJ's, but still pretty easy to get in and out of. Pretty easy to get in and out of the back in the 2 door now.

My vote goes for the 2 door, more traditional Jeep. And yesterday I was out wheeling with a group and the 4 door with us had a harder time on the trails simply due to the turning radius and some very tight trees.
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Extended cab pickup, a van, and the JK won't be a DD... Go 2 door if you like it.
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the 2011 and newer JK front seat is a fold and tumble... Not like the TJ's, but still pretty easy to get in and out of. Pretty easy to get in and out of the back in the 2 door now.

My vote goes for the 2 door, more traditional Jeep. And yesterday I was out wheeling with a group and the 4 door with us had a harder time on the trails simply due to the turning radius and some very tight trees.
They went back 2 it?
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People will tell you the four door is handier, with more room. It is also more SUV-like.

The two door wrangler is fun, and has plenty of room for just about anything. It's short wheelbase makes it a hoot to drive, and it's pure Wrangler.

I take heat for this opinion... but if I were buying a four door automatic with a hardtop, I wouldn't buy a Wrangler. There are better four door hardtop automatics for thiry k, but there isn't a better two door four by four with a ragtop made for less than twenty four.
While there are clearly better "hardtop SUV's" in that price range.....how many of them have removable doors and tops?

As for the OP....if you have other DD better suited DD's, get the 2 door.
Of course....you may find out that you REALLY like the Wrangler...and it becomes a DD...thus making the 4 door a better choice.

Basically....I don't know....
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They went back 2 it?
When you hit the lever and pull the seat forward it reclines all the way forward, then the whole seat tilts forward. The back end lifts up a little bit, when it does this the seat slides all the way forward. In my Jeep when we tilt the seat forward the head rest is resting on the dash.

Though we've already had a warranty repair done on it, the seat stopped functioning as described and the dealer had to replace the seat rails under the seat.
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Ya, the Tj seat lifted and tilted forward. The seat pretty much touched the dash allowing full access to the rear. The jk passenger seat just slides forward a bit more.
I've read that it could not be done because of all the electronics (air bag sensors) under the seat.
Love that. Tho only my passenger still works. Driver just slides forward. Not sure why.
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Ya looks like 2011 they went back 2 it.

News to me.
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Love that. Tho only my passenger still works. Driver just slides forward. Not sure why.
Trying to remember if only one seat in TJ
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Dam 10 yrs and I forget already
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Dam 10 yrs and I forget already
Driver side used too. Just stopped one day.
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While there are clearly better "hardtop SUV's" in that price range.....how many of them have removable doors and tops?

As for the OP....if you have other DD better suited DD's, get the 2 door.
Of course....you may find out that you REALLY like the Wrangler...and it becomes a DD...thus making the 4 door a better choice.

Basically....I don't know....
Not many of 'em have removable doors and tops, true... but many of the urban assault jku's I see around here or online don't look like they've ever had their rooftop cherry busted, much less doors. For those that do... they look cool, I'll admit. My point is addressed primarily at those who would never take the top off, and therefore would really be in the market for a hardtop.

I see a lot of pretty road candy with lots of sparkle and flash and even some comments about never, ever taking a roof off right here on these forums. It's a hoot.
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If you buy a two door, I doubt you will be able to have the child ride in it until he/she is two years old. Reason: not sure how you place a kid into a backwards facing car seat. After that, it will be easy as he/she will be able to climb in the car seat themselves. I would take my car seat into a dealer and start playing with it to see what is possible. I had a '95 two door with 5 and 7 year old and it was a lot of fun. Now the kids are grown and I have a '12 two door with no seat so the dog can jump in the back.

I have the 2door with a car seat and a car carrier, the carrier being the rear facing for my 3 month old. I put the carrier on the passenger side just for room sake, it does require the seat to be forward a bit more. Getting the carrier is kinda p.i.t.a with the hardtop on, if open, I just pit it in through the side. I love my 2door even with the space limitations as compared to the 4door. Just keep in mind, with the carriers/car seats, you won't be using them forever so if you plan on keeping the Jeep a good long while, it's just a little bit of inconvenience for a lifetime of fun!
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I thought about used but these Wranglers hold such a high book value it seems like you cant find any deals. So I decided that since the 2012 has the new 3.6 engine it would be worth it. We rented a 4 door JKU on the Outer Banks and found the 3.8 to labor quite a bit with 5 adults loaded down with all of the stuff for the beach and a large cooler in the back. We used Low Range alot in the sand.

I'm not familar with the tread lightly discount how does this work?

I appreciate everyones thoughts and ideas.
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I thought about used but these Wranglers hold such a high book value it seems like you cant find any deals. So I decided that since the 2012 has the new 3.6 engine it would be worth it. We rented a 4 door JKU on the Outer Banks and found the 3.8 to labor quite a bit with 5 adults loaded down with all of the stuff for the beach and a large cooler in the back. We used Low Range alot in the sand.

I'm not familar with the tread lightly discount how does this work?

I appreciate everyones thoughts and ideas.
Love OB. Have friends in Wilmington so visit good bit.

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Not many of 'em have removable doors and tops, true... but many of the urban assault jku's I see around here or online don't look like they've ever had their rooftop cherry busted, much less doors. For those that do... they look cool, I'll admit. My point is addressed primarily at those who would never take the top off, and therefore would really be in the market for a hardtop.

I see a lot of pretty road candy with lots of sparkle and flash and even some comments about never, ever taking a roof off right here on these forums. It's a hoot.


Urban assault jku's haha
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Not many of 'em have removable doors and tops, true... but many of the urban assault jku's I see around here or online don't look like they've ever had their rooftop cherry busted, much less doors. For those that do... they look cool, I'll admit. My point is addressed primarily at those who would never take the top off, and therefore would really be in the market for a hardtop.

I see a lot of pretty road candy with lots of sparkle and flash and even some comments about never, ever taking a roof off right here on these forums. It's a hoot.
My friend's GF has a JKU that is a couple of years old...and had never had the top off.
I agree with you in the sense that there are a lot better vehicles (for the money) than a Wrangler if the top will not come off.

My guess is that people only get the HT to save money, and find it too much of a hassle (or have no storage space) to put the top on and off every day. They should have just gotten a Liberty or GC.
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My friend's GF has a JKU that is a couple of years old...and had never had the top off.
I agree with you in the sense that there are a lot better vehicles (for the money) than a Wrangler if the top will not come off.

My guess is that people only get the HT to save money, and find it too much of a hassle (or have no storage space) to put the top on and off every day. They should have just gotten a Liberty or GC.

My guess never taken off road either.
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I have a 2 and 5 year old. I couldn't see getting the 2 year olds car seat into the two door. I ended up going four door. The back seat folds flat, very nice for camping or late night booty call.

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