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Old 11-20-2012, 01:22 PM   #181
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A plus for the 4 door is that is a lot of room for stuff under the front seats and under the backseats. I have the 2 door, difficult to have stuff under the frontseats, and under the backseat there are allmost no space at all for storage there.

So it is more difficult to hide stuff in a 2 door.

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I'm thinking about welding my 2 rear doors shut just so I can say I have a 2-door.....
That counts right?

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Old 11-20-2012, 04:30 PM   #183
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Does it have a seven slotted grill, eyes that are too close together, and solid axles front and rear? GREAT.....it's a REAL Jeep.
DJ-5B has a 5 slot grill... auto trans, 2WD... It goes places I won't take my JKU, because I'm not as worried about breaking it. There are runs my 2 door 2WD is better for, and there are runs my 4 door is better for. I dont' think of either as being "more jeep" than the other.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:21 PM   #184
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I'm in the market for a JK. I went to dealership to test drive one and ended up driving both the 2 Door and 4 door. Both had 2.5" Pro Comp lifts and 35's. The 2 door drove awful, but the 4 door was a really nice ride. I'm guessing the extra wheel base makes the difference. I don't think driving a 2 door cross country would be a very nice ride. Looks like I will be going with the 4 door.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:20 PM   #185
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I'm in the market for a JK. I went to dealership to test drive one and ended up driving both the 2 Door and 4 door. Both had 2.5" Pro Comp lifts and 35's. The 2 door drove awful, but the 4 door was a really nice ride. I'm guessing the extra wheel base makes the difference. I don't think driving a 2 door cross country would be a very nice ride. Looks like I will be going with the 4 door.
The conclusion doesn't follow from your premises.

You've only identified one possible explanation--you haven't accounted for differences in the lift components or improper installation, or additional items that were likely omitted from a crappy dealer-installed lift like new front LCAs.

Wheel base no doubt helps the 4 door, but properly lifted 2 doors can ride great.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:50 PM   #186
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The conclusion doesn't follow from your premises.

You've only identified one possible explanation--you haven't accounted for differences in the lift components or improper installation, or additional items that were likely omitted from a crappy dealer-installed lift like new front LCAs.

Wheel base no doubt helps the 4 door, but properly lifted 2 doors can ride great.
I was thinking the same
Wheelbase does help but I bet there were other things going on.

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Old 12-26-2012, 08:51 PM   #187
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The conclusion doesn't follow from your premises.

You've only identified one possible explanation--you haven't accounted for differences in the lift components or improper installation, or additional items that were likely omitted from a crappy dealer-installed lift like new front LCAs.

Wheel base no doubt helps the 4 door, but properly lifted 2 doors can ride great.
That's possible. I'm just going from what the same dealer said they installed on both Jeeps. I've always liked the 2D better, but the 4D has more practicality for me as a DD. The ride quality was just so much better with the same crappy lift. I want to run the least amount of lift with 35's. I doubt I will need to re-gear right away, but will do so down the road I'm sure. Never thought I would be interested in a 4D, but it looks like the one I will go with.
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That's possible. I'm just going from what the same dealer said they installed on both Jeeps. I've always liked the 2D better, but the 4D has more practicality for me as a DD. The ride quality was just so much better with the same crappy lift. I want to run the least amount of lift with 35's. I doubt I will need to re-gear right away, but will do so down the road I'm sure. Never thought I would be interested in a 4D, but it looks like the one I will go with.
Don't get me wrong--I have a 4 door and it's great. In the JK platform, I actually like the look of the 4 door as much and maybe even more than a 2 door.

My recommendation would be test drive stock jeeps. Dealer installed lifts are almost always terribly overpriced and usually not as good of a lift as you'd likely buy on your own, and the tires and wheels they put on them often have the same shortcomings.

That would also get rid of most of the variables you may have been experiencing on your test drives.

You can rest assured that there are ample aftermarket choices for lifts, wheels, and tires that will give you better handling than the stock set up. So if you find the stock handling acceptable, you'll be able to lift it later and be satisfied.
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:08 PM   #190
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Don't get me wrong--I have a 4 door and it's great. In the JK platform, I actually like the look of the 4 door as much and maybe even more than a 2 door.

My recommendation would be test drive stock jeeps. Dealer installed lifts are almost always terribly overpriced and usually not as good of a lift as you'd likely buy on your own, and the tires and wheels they put on them often have the same shortcomings.

That would also get rid of most of the variables you may have been experiencing on your test drives.

You can rest assured that there are ample aftermarket choices for lifts, wheels, and tires that will give you better handling than the stock set up. So if you find the stock handling acceptable, you'll be able to lift it later and be satisfied.
I definitely wasn't going to buy a Jeep that has been lifted. I told them I wanted one stock, but I am still leaning towards the 4D at this point. Getting my dog in and out of the 2D will be more of a chore and he goes everywhere with me.
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:16 PM   #191
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I definitely wasn't going to buy a Jeep that has been lifted. I told them I wanted one stock, but I am still leaning towards the 4D at this point. Getting my dog in and out of the 2D will be more of a chore and he goes everywhere with me.
What does your dog have to do with the wheelbase?
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What does your dog have to do with the wheelbase?
Nothing. It just so happens a 4D has longer wheelbase. This Jeep will be bought with him in mind.
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:26 PM   #193
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I had a four door and a two door. I like the look of the 4D simply because it looks militant. I think a jacked up black on black 4D looks like it should be on the streets of a warzone gunning down skinnies. When I sold it and bought a 2D I thought it fit me better simply because I am 20 and didn't need the extra space. The only person I really drive around is my girlfriend. Now, when I plan to have kids, I will definitely trade it in for a four door. I also think that 4D Jeep with no doors looks a little silly. But, that is obviously just my opinion.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:44 PM   #194
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it all depends on what you intend to do with it... if you want to take the kids to soccer than go to the mall, then the 4 door is for you. if you want to do some serious wheeling that get a 2 door.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:10 PM   #195
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2 door....coz it just looks better


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Old 02-07-2013, 09:11 PM   #196
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it all depends on what you intend to do with it... if you want to take the kids to soccer than go to the mall, then the 4 door is for you. if you want to do some serious wheeling that get a 2 door.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:19 PM   #197
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it all depends on what you intend to do with it... if you want to take the kids to soccer than go to the mall, then the 4 door is for you. if you want to do some serious wheeling that get a 2 door.
I like it when someone shows their ignorance within their first couple of posts. It makes it easier to figure out who you can listen to and who you can't.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:45 PM   #198
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it all depends on what you intend to do with it... if you want to take the kids to soccer than go to the mall, then the 4 door is for you. if you want to do some serious wheeling that get a 2 door.
It would be too easy to point out why hellen keller doesn't get it so I will leave it alone.

Btw, check out hellen's one other post.
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The majority of 2 door owners do not agree with helen keller's statements!
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:17 PM   #200
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2 door, unless you have kids or have folks ride with you a lot. I've had both, two door is my preference. Either is fun and will drain your wallet once mod disease kicks in
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it all depends on what you intend to do with it... if you want to take the kids to soccer than go to the mall, then the 4 door is for you. if you want to do some serious wheeling that get a 2 door.
This post makes me want to sell my jku. He's right! What was I thinking!
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:58 PM   #202
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One of my best buds- who has owned what, 6 Wranglers over the years?- just traded in his 2DR 09 Rubicon for a 4DR.

I can't fault him as the deal was sweet- but I don't like it. It's too... I don't know, "big", too much of (as many have said) an SUV for my taste. I don't consider the JK to be an SUV.

He went with me out to Moab with his 2DR this past fall, and I have no doubt he could and will go again with the 4DR. I don't fault anyone who feels the need for it-

-but frankly, I think it's a very different vehicle. The "hardships": of owning a 2DR is part of the charm, the handling is part of the appeal- the relative inconvenience of not seating seven is a reality.

I reckon I feel the same way some of my sport touring friends have when I would talk about my GL1800. It's a motorcycle, it's convenient, it's fast- but in a way, it's not the same thing as discussing a cross country trip taken by a guy on a Bonneville, eh?

Point blank, unless I was a dedicated off-road wheeler- I do not think I would own a Wrangler if I needed a 4 door vehicle- and iif I were to run a continuous hard-top, then it would definitely be out. It wouldn't be the same to me, and I think there are better four-door offerings (granted, none where the top comes off).
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I'm about to trade my 2 door for a 4 door. Really, it's pretty simple. For pure wheeling on tight trails, I'd rather have a 2 door. But truth is, for camping, towing, tooling around on forest roads, just getting out in nature and having a great time - I think the 4 door is the answer for me.

In an ideal world I'd have a place up in the mountains, wake up, jump in the two door, go have fun. In the real world I have a place in the city, wake up, go to work, come home, gotta take a bunch of stuff with me to the mountains for a 3 day trip. So, four door it is for me. If you've got it set up so you can get away with the two door, hey - I envy you. But I am pretty confident I will have plenty of fun on my own in the 4 door
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I wonder if people on truck forums bash people with crew cabs?!? oh my.
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I wonder if people on truck forums bash people with crew cabs?!? oh my.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:43 PM   #206
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I have a 2dr but I like the 4dr as well. It all depends on your needs.

Don't let anyone tell you that the JKU is too big, I have seen 4drs do everything here in Colorado and Moab.
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I sure hope my post wasn't interpreted as "bashing"... as that was not the intention. I do, however, consider them to be different vehicles, much as I would consider a four door Porsche different from a two door. Obviously, there is even a market for a Porsche SUV, but few people get offended if not all choose a Cayenne.

Hell, bashing would imply that someone else's choice has an impact... and really, it doesn't. The only thing that varies is the experience, and for so many things... wheel sizes, equipment, lifts... well, the two and four doors have enough in common to warrant a common forum.

The four door has been good for Jeep, they have drawn in loads of new customers. They also draw in lots of folks who think a $45k four door Wrangler should behave like a Lexus, spread fear over soft tops, and write up detracting posts on Edmunds about how "truck like" the Wrangler was before they thankfully traded it in on a new Pathfinder.

I think four door Wranglers do make awesome expedition rigs, though... that I will swear to.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:57 PM   #208
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I test drove both....the 2 door was alot more fun to drive and felt more like a Jeep (in my mind). The 4 door had a smoother ride and just felt like driving a truck. However, the 4 door has a ton of space and easier access to the backseat....... decisions, decisions.
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I wonder if people on truck forums bash people with crew cabs?!? oh my.
The fun part, especially with the long time posters, is to go back through their posts to see who bashed on the 4 door when it first came out and then to see how many of them now own 4 door JK's.
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If I had the chance to get all the money I spent on my jk back and get a jku and mod it i would. I like my 2dr but at times the lack of trunk space and how difficult it is to get to the back seat makes me want a 4dr even though I think they can look kinda funky without a top on unless the doors are off or their half doors

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