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Old 03-14-2013, 12:19 PM   #121
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I actually measured the circumference of the individual coils before. There was no difference b/w the 14s and 18s in the front. I'll have to find my post, I don't remember is the 59s were larger than the 55s in the rear.
ETA: Circumference of the individual coils was the same for the front coils (14 and 18) and the rear coils (55 and 59). The spring was simply taller as someone above stated.

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Just asking, has anyone done this swap using spring compressors or is there some reason not to use them?

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Just asking, has anyone done this swap using spring compressors or is there some reason not to use them?
I didn't. I dropped one wheel at a time. Took about 30 minutes for each spring. Spring compressors can be dangerous. If you do one tire at a time with a jack, just watch the brake lines
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Old 03-14-2013, 08:38 PM   #124
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Just asking, has anyone done this swap using spring compressors or is there some reason not to use them?
I don't know if there is a reason TO use them. The coils slid out pretty easily just using my hands.
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Old 03-14-2013, 09:29 PM   #125
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In a nutshell, AA is first run, AB is 2nd, etc.
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We call that a NIC change. Usually occurs when there is a change made to the product. It could just be a coating spec, a new standard added to the engineering document, or a physical design change.
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I'm glad I came across this thread. My father-in-law is helping me this weekend with my spring swap. Going to be upgrading from 13-14/56 to 18/60 from a JKUR. I got the shocks and springs both for $150 and they had about 3000 miles on them.

I went ahead and got the Daystar 3/4 spacer lift to add while I'm at it. Hope to have pictures early next week.
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:17 AM   #127
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Just asking, has anyone done this swap using spring compressors or is there some reason not to use them?
I rented one from autozone but didn't need it at all including with 3/4 spacer and isolator in thier, just need to watch brack lines and if needed push down on axle to get extra room spring goes right in
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idk claws of death make it really fun. Something about suspension installs. When your face is at risk you tend to enjoy the work a little more lol
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Sorry to bust your Nut..............shell

We call that a NIC change. Usually occurs when there is a change made to the product. It could just be a coating spec, a new standard added to the engineering document, or a physical design change.
Thanks for the clarification (and not busting my nut). I'm not as thorough when responding from my phone. The heads in 2012s are a good example of why it COULD matter. In the case of springs, there are no known faults.
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I'm glad I came across this thread. My father-in-law is helping me this weekend with my spring swap. Going to be upgrading from 13-14/56 to 18/60 from a JKUR. I got the shocks and springs both for $150 and they had about 3000 miles on them.

I went ahead and got the Daystar 3/4 spacer lift to add while I'm at it. Hope to have pictures early next week.
You'll love the added height and the Rubi shocks. I swapped 13/55's to 18/59's and added a 1" spacer all around as well.

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Where do I jack up the car so I can make the swap? I did my shocks last week, jacking it up from my axels. Anything special I need to do for the springs?
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I used the diff cover in the rear-easy. The front is trickier using the cover...passenger wheel doesn't go as high, but still enough to remove the coil.
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Where do I jack up the car so I can make the swap? I did my shocks last week, jacking it up from my axels. Anything special I need to do for the springs?
I did rear then from putting choke in front and entire rear on jack stands directly in front of wheel then use jack on axle to raise and lower axle as needed
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Just asking, has anyone done this swap using spring compressors or is there some reason not to use them?
They are a huge waste of time.
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Where do I jack up the car so I can make the swap? I did my shocks last week, jacking it up from my axels. Anything special I need to do for the springs?
For the rear, place jack stands under the frame just forward of where the lower control arms attach to the frame. For the front place the jack stands under the frame right behind where the lower control arms attach to the frame.
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For the guys who have the leveling kit and the springs, how is the ride?

Some have said it is kind of flighty, especially around higher speed curves. Any comments on this? Anybody know if the AEV geometry correction kit would help with this?

Also, can anybody with both springs and Teraflex leveling kit measure from the bottom of the frame to the top of the spring seat following the instructions at this link, under the installation tab? I would really, really, appreciate this.

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I went from 14/55's to 18/59's with a Teraflex leveling kit and from factory base 29" tires to 33" tires all in one day. Man, talk about a difference!

I used the coil spring compressors and only had to remove the shocks and swaybar links to get the springs in on the front and rear.

I also installed a pair of Teraflex shock extensions. The front end went up 3" from stock so I thought it was needed to keep the shock valving correct.

After the install the first test run un-nerved me. The jeep went all over the road at about 60 mph and I seriously thought I'd messed something up. I went home and looked everything over and could find no problems. Then I checked the air pressure in the new tires. They were all aired up to 40 lbs! I dropped the pressure down to 30 lbs and everything settled down like it should be.



Yeah, I'm happy with it. It was inexpensive and very functional. IMO, a great mod.
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I went from 14/55's to 18/59's with a Teraflex leveling kit and from factory base 29" tires to 33" tires all in one day. Man, talk about a difference!

I used the coil spring compressors and only had to remove the shocks and swaybar links to get the springs in on the front and rear.

I also installed a pair of Teraflex shock extensions. The front end went up 3" from stock so I thought it was needed to keep the shock valving correct.

After the install the first test run un-nerved me. The jeep went all over the road at about 60 mph and I seriously thought I'd messed something up. I went home and looked everything over and could find no problems. Then I checked the air pressure in the new tires. They were all aired up to 40 lbs! I dropped the pressure down to 30 lbs and everything settled down like it should be.

Yeah, I'm happy with it. It was inexpensive and very functional. IMO, a great mod.
Looks good! Did you use two pucks in front or one?
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Old 03-20-2013, 09:41 AM   #139
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2 in the front, 1 in the back.
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I got 2 inches in the front and 1.5 in the back going from 14/55 to 18/59 and also swapped in Rubi shocks. Looked to about level it out. The ride is a million times better, I don't feel like it's gonna roll over every time I go around a corner or endo when I use the brakes. Very happy with the ride.

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I basically got the same set up. Going to install my tf leveling kit when I get some time. Yours turned out sweet!
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Thanks, I'm pretty happy with it.
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I got 2 inches in the front and 1.5 in the back going from 14/55 to 18/59 and also swapped in Rubi shocks. Looked to about level it out. The ride is a million times better, I don't feel like it's gonna roll over every time I go around a corner or endo when I use the brakes. Very happy with the ride.

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Like your set up. You did not use a leveling kit? Are those 33 tires? Looking to do same if you just used rubi coils and shocks.
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Ok correct me if I'm wrong. Some guys on here that install a tf leveling kit....or say 2" in front and 1" in back. Some have awesome results. Yet some have slight squatting in the back. Some just add a 3/4 or 1" spacer. I honestly do not see what would cause that. With a full leveling kit you are basically adding 1" on all four corners then an additional 1" up front. By adding a 3/4 or 1" puck in front instead of full kit it is basically same thing in height you are gaining minus the extra pucks if you really think about it. Opinions?
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Yeah Jkatfish duratracs 33x12.5x15. No leveling kit just the springs and shocks. Rubi shocks, Jku springs. Rubi springs are the same springs as sports. Just changed spring rate.
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Lots of things are different on different Jeeps, Catahoula1.

Mine has a aftermarket bumper and winch, making the front heavier than the rear, at least until I get a rear bumper and tire carrier. Some folks keep a lot of heavy gear in the trunk, plus heavy wheel\tire combos could give the squatting look due to no additional weight in the front. Some have skids and armor that may put more weight on one end.

Many variables.

Nuclear Cowboy, that looks really good. What type spring compressors did you use? Just the standard ones?

Yours looks real nice, too. Binx.
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I understand that. I've talked to several people especially ones the have similar set ups as mine. Stock equipment, no add ons. The guys on here have some sweet looking rigs like the ones you mentioned.
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Lots of things are different on different Jeeps, Catahoula1.

Mine has a aftermarket bumper and winch, making the front heavier than the rear, at least until I get a rear bumper and tire carrier. Some folks keep a lot of heavy gear in the trunk, plus heavy wheel\tire combos could give the squatting look due to no additional weight in the front. Some have skids and armor that may put more weight on one end.

Many variables.

Nuclear Cowboy, that looks really good. What type spring compressors did you use? Just the standard ones?

Yours looks real nice, too. Binx.
You don't need a spring compressor doing 1 side at a time. My front bumper and winch weighs 165 pounds.
When I went from 14/55 to 19/59 I gained 2 inches with the rake a little worse than stock then I added the teraflex leveling kit and gain 1/2 inch in rear and 1 inch in front and now it's level. I lost 1/4 of an inch is 6 weeks and none since then.
The Rancho XL 9000 shocks made my jeep ride so much better being I can adjust the ride from soft to stiff. My buddies have since changed there Rubicon shocks over to Rancho XL 9000 for that same reason. I set them to 3 for road ridding and 7 for off roading, 9 will shake your teeth out way to stiff for anything I can think of. You can see from the stock spring pics to new springs and shocks the height difference but I also changed the wheels and tires from 31 to 33's
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For those asking about spring compressors, don't even waste your time. I tried to use spring compressors after dropping the axle as far as it will go with NOTHING being disconnected. The compressors, which are the expensive and safe-ish clamshell type, couldn't compress the spring enough to even begin to remove it. Not even close.

The fact is, you need to disconnect things and properly drop the axle. Don't bother with spring compressors. I lost 2 hours of my life learning this.
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Awesome reply, mcgee, thanks a lot.

Agree 100% about the nine setting on the Rancho's. I put mine at 9 one time when wheeling and it felt like my teeth were going to rattle out of my head. I changed them back to 7 within a quarter mile. Maybe when you do a decent rock crawl, but other than that, no way. I find 3 and 7 to be perfect, too.

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