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Old 11-26-2013, 10:29 PM   #1
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Just bought my 2014 rubicon and looking for new wheels. I don't really understand the 33 and 35s stuff. All I really get is the 17 inch wheelsthat I have now. I have been on the forum for a while and it's been really helpful. What size tires do I need if I get 19 or 20 inch rims. I don't do alot of off roading but I want to also be prepared if I do. Mostly city and highway driving right now. And I want a more aggressive look but nothing crazy. What you guys think? If I could line the flares with the tire that would look nice. Any help would be great. You guys rock

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I do not understand all the technical stuff, but why would you put 20 inch rims on a Wrangler? The tires that come on the Rubicon if I recall correctly are 18 inch and should be fairly capable.

If you just want aggressive appearance without doing lifts and all that stuff, I bet tons of folks will be here to chime in for recommendations. I would suspect anything over a 33 inch tire would pretty much necessitate a lift (or at least make one advisable)-could be wrong though.

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I do not understand all the technical stuff, but why would you put 20 inch rims on a Wrangler? The tires that come on the Rubicon if I recall correctly are 18 inch and should be fairly capable.

If you just want aggressive appearance without doing lifts and all that stuff, I bet tons of folks will be here to chime in for recommendations. I would suspect anything over a 33 inch tire would pretty much necessitate a lift (or at least make one advisable)-could be wrong though.
The wheels are the shiny metal things and the tires are the black rubber things on the outside. Rubicons come from the factory with 17" wheels and 32" tires.
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The wheels are the shiny metal things and the tires are the black rubber things on the outside. Rubicons come from the factory with 17" wheels and 32" tires.
LOL now that much I do know about the shiny things and the rubber things.

My Sport came with 17" wheels and 32" tires so I guess I was wrong that the Rubicon came with bigger ones.
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Just bought my 2014 rubicon and looking for new wheels. I don't really understand the 33 and 35s stuff. All I really get is the 17 inch wheelsthat I have now. I have been on the forum for a while and it's been really helpful. What size tires do I need if I get 19 or 20 inch rims. I don't do alot of off roading but I want to also be prepared if I do. Mostly city and highway driving right now. And I want a more aggressive look but nothing crazy. What you guys think? If I could line the flares with the tire that would look nice. Any help would be great. You guys rock

If you want a more aggressive look then you want less wheel and more tire. The 33 and 35 "stuff" is the size of the tire. Forget the 19 or 20's this is a Jeep not a Crown Vic.
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Just bought my 2014 rubicon and looking for new wheels. I don't really understand the 33 and 35s stuff. All I really get is the 17 inch wheelsthat I have now. I have been on the forum for a while and it's been really helpful. What size tires do I need if I get 19 or 20 inch rims. I don't do alot of off roading but I want to also be prepared if I do. Mostly city and highway driving right now. And I want a more aggressive look but nothing crazy. What you guys think? If I could line the flares with the tire that would look nice. Any help would be great. You guys rock
You are looking at a few problems....

1) Tires for 20" wheels are expensive as hell...anything over 17" is going to run you a lot of money.

2) 20" wheels look good on a wrangler when you run 40+" tires, otherwise they look like dubs to most people.

3) They will be pretty useless offroad with "regular" tires, and will get trashed quickly, since they wont have the "meat" poking out protecting the wheel.

4) Aggressive looking wranglers get that look by having a lot of tire meat. On wranglers, the smaller the wheel, the more aggressive it looks, since there is more and more rubber, making the tire appear larger (which is what makes the wrangler look badass.)

5) 20" wheels are heavy, and you will notice it in your MPG and your acceleration.

6) Be prepared to get flamed on the forums

7) Aggressive looking wranglers also get their look from the stance, and that stance is achieved by having the tires poke out of the fenders, makes the jeep look wider and more butch.

Make sure you know what you are doing and what you are going to spend before going with 20" wheels. The price gap can be as wide as a $2500 difference. What size tires do you plan to run?
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I do not understand all the technical stuff, but why would you put 20 inch rims on a Wrangler? The tires that come on the Rubicon if I recall correctly are 18 inch and should be fairly capable.

If you just want aggressive appearance without doing lifts and all that stuff, I bet tons of folks will be here to chime in for recommendations. I would suspect anything over a 33 inch tire would pretty much necessitate a lift (or at least make one advisable)-could be wrong though.
Actually the Rubicon has 17" wheels. Everything you have read about tire size still applies. When you are talking about a 33" tire you are talking about how tall the tire is. A 33" tire is still a 33" tire whether it is on a 15" rim or a 20" rim. For practical purposes the only difference wheel size makes is if you want to see more tire sidewall or more wheel. It is the tire size that will raise or lower the height of the jeep a bit, but rim size will not.
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LOL now that much I do know about the shiny things and the rubber things.

My Sport came with 17" wheels and 32" tires so I guess I was wrong that the Rubicon came with bigger ones.
Sahara's come with 18" wheels, but the same 32" size tires. Thus you see more shiny part and less black rubber part! The more wheel you have and the less tire you have, the dumber the Jeep looks. More tire = more better!
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Actually the Rubicon has 17" wheels. Everything you have read about tire size still applies. When you are talking about a 33" tire you are talking about how tall the tire is. A 33" tire is still a 33" tire whether it is on a 15" rim or a 20" rim. For practical purposes the only difference wheel size makes is if you want to see more tire sidewall or more wheel. It is the tire size that will raise or lower the height of the jeep a bit, but rim size will not.
While true, a 33" tire on a 15" rim LOOKS much larger than a 33" tire on a 20" rim.

This is a 33" tire on a 15" rim....



This is a 33" tire on a 22" rim


Big difference in appearance right?
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Sahara's come with 18" wheels, but the same 32" size tires. Thus you see more shiny part and less black rubber part! The more wheel you have and the less tire you have, the dumber the Jeep looks. More tire = more better!
I think Im gonna make this into a bumper sticker.
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Sahara's come with 18" wheels, but the same 32" size tires. Thus you see more shiny part and less black rubber part! The more wheel you have and the less tire you have, the dumber the Jeep looks. More tire = more better!
Wrangler Tires and Wheels for Dummies 101: Black rubber=badass Wrangler. Shiney stuff=dumb Jeep pretending to be a Crown Vic. LOL!

I get the point. At work today there was a Maserati or one of those uber pricey sports cars in our parking garage. It had huge huge rims with fancy swirly shiney stuff but itty bitty black stuff that sort of made me wonder how they even got air in it since there was so little tire- a bicycle pump?

I suppose on a sportscar that is ok but it would just look really wrong on a Wrangler besides I suspect getting beaten up if it ever did go offroad.
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While true, a 33" tire on a 15" rim LOOKS much larger than a 33" tire on a 20" rim.

This is a 33" tire on a 15" rim....

This is a 33" tire on a 22" rim

Big difference in appearance right?
That last one is a full on pimp mobile!
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Nothing wrong with 20's my friend. I have a 2014 Black Wrangler and just ordered 20" all black Rockstar II's with Toyo Open Country MT's. And trust me, it'll look far from a "Crown Vic"!! A lot of this jargon is garbage. This is my 5th Wrangler and I've done the 15's-18's and to each his own. It's all personal preference. 20's dont have to be shiny. Some of the baddest AZZ looking wranglers are in 20's and MT's.
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Nothing wrong with 20's my friend. I have a 2014 Black Wrangler and just ordered 20" all black Rockstar II's with Toyo Open Country MT's. And trust me, it'll look far from a "Crown Vic"!! A lot of this jargon is garbage. This is my 5th Wrangler and I've done the 15's-18's and to each his own. It's all personal preference. 20's dont have to be shiny. Some of the baddest AZZ looking wranglers are in 20's and MT's.
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Just bought my 2014 rubicon and looking for new wheels. I don't really understand the 33 and 35s stuff. All I really get is the 17 inch wheelsthat I have now. I have been on the forum for a while and it's been really helpful. What size tires do I need if I get 19 or 20 inch rims. I don't do alot of off roading but I want to also be prepared if I do. Mostly city and highway driving right now. And I want a more aggressive look but nothing crazy. What you guys think? If I could line the flares with the tire that would look nice. Any help would be great. You guys rock
Based on what you stated (how you will use the vehicle), I think you should keep it stock...or at best look at some 33" AT's on rims between 16 and 18 inches. Since you like a bigger rim, I would not go larger than an 18" rim.
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Nothing wrong with 20's my friend. I have a 2014 Black Wrangler and just ordered 20" all black Rockstar II's with Toyo Open Country MT's. And trust me, it'll look far from a "Crown Vic"!! A lot of this jargon is garbage. This is my 5th Wrangler and I've done the 15's-18's and to each his own. It's all personal preference. 20's dont have to be shiny. Some of the baddest AZZ looking wranglers are in 20's and MT's.
Oh yeah, Rock Star's are certainly impressive. You're right it won't look like a Crown Vic, it'll be more like a Mercury Marquis.
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Nothing wrong with 20's my friend. I have a 2014 Black Wrangler and just ordered 20" all black Rockstar II's with Toyo Open Country MT's. And trust me, it'll look far from a "Crown Vic"!! A lot of this jargon is garbage. This is my 5th Wrangler and I've done the 15's-18's and to each his own. It's all personal preference. 20's dont have to be shiny. Some of the baddest AZZ looking wranglers are in 20's and MT's.
Unless they're 40's I'd like to see these "bad azz" wranglers you're talking about.
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Nothing wrong with 20's my friend. I have a 2014 Black Wrangler and just ordered 20" all black Rockstar II's with Toyo Open Country MT's. And trust me, it'll look far from a "Crown Vic"!! A lot of this jargon is garbage. This is my 5th Wrangler and I've done the 15's-18's and to each his own. It's all personal preference. 20's dont have to be shiny. Some of the baddest AZZ looking wranglers are in 20's and MT's.
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Oh yeah, Rock Star's are certainly impressive. You're right it won't look like a Crown Vic, it'll be more like a Mercury Marquis.
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<snip> This is a 33" tire on a 22" rim Big difference in appearance right?
WOW - that is really, really terrible! Someone needs to go to confession and pray for redemption. That's more of an abomination than a 2WD Jeep!
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WOW - that is really, really terrible! Someone needs to go to confession and pray for redemption. That's more of an abomination than a 2WD Jeep!
Mine is a 2wd jeep , so what you say now
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Its not interesting until someone shows up with 40s and then we can start debating 20s. Until then it is usually just alot of chuckling...
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When I was in my 20's....I drank a lot of 40's. Does that count?
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Thanks guys. Ya no chance of getting 20 inch rims with small tires. That's terrible. Lots of help thanks
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To be fair, didn't you buy this with the intention of it being a mall crawler from the start? Wasn't it 2WD?
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Was. Till you converted it. That's pretty awesome if you ask me
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Same thing I said before.

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