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Old 04-10-2012, 01:54 PM   #1
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2010 Brake Pads and rotor help

So i dropped my car off for a simple oil change and what do you know my rear brakes are "85% worn down"....the guy at the dealership says i should replace the rear brake pads now or might have to change the pads and rotors down the road. The dealership wants to charge me $351 to change the brake pads and remove the rotors and make them flat again or risk having to get new pads and rotors in a couple months for around $550...

Im thinking of doing this on my own and have some questions

1. Should i change the rotors and pads or just the pads? I have about 35k miles on the car.If i just change just the pads do i have to flatten the rotors?
2. What brake pads and rotors do you recommend? Where can i order?
3. Do i need any special tools?
4. Is this hard?
5. How the hell do i do this?

appreciate the help and if anyone in Northern NJ wants to help feel free to pm me....thanks everyone i appreciate the help

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I did this on my '08 a couple of weeks ago. 35K seems like low mileage for pads, but if you drive it hard or stop and go, it'll happen.

You can get rotors and pads for about $130 (per axle), maybe a little more or less depending on quality.

I ordered 4 rotors and front and rear pads before starting this project. I didn't want to get into it and find out I had to order something. My front rotors were fine (so just ceramic pads) rears had some minor gouging on the inside of the rotors, so I replaced them.

You can have rotors turned, but with less metal, they are more likely to warp - new rotors are only around $25-$30 each from Advance Auto parts (free shipping).

I have 3 JKUs so having a set of extra rotors around isn't going to hurt anything.

If you have done pads and rotors before, there aren't any surprises.

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Whether you decide to do it or not, you should never take your jeep to the dealer for anything other than warranty work. Ever. The only exception is if you have some sort of service "deal"--like in my case my dealer will do oil changes for $10 each. Ten bucks simply can't be beat.

That said, if you do take advantage of service deals, disregard everything else they tell you. The whole point of service deals is to get you in the door and then up-sell you. So you need to decline their recommedations and then find a trusted mechanic and take it to him to get an opinion on things recommended by the dealer and quotes to do the work.

Dealerships will generally crush you on repair costs. My $10 oil change place wants me to pay $275 for a "full transmission service" at my next oil change. With a manual transmission like mine, that's code for "drain-and-fill." My trusted local shop will do it for $50.
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Whether you decide to do it or not, you should never take your jeep to the dealer for anything other than warranty work. Ever. The only exception is if you have some sort of service "deal"--like in my case my dealer will do oil changes for $10 each. Ten bucks simply can't be beat.

That said, if you do take advantage of service deals, disregard everything else they tell you. The whole point of service deals is to get you in the door and then up-sell you. So you need to decline their recommedations and then find a trusted mechanic and take it to him to get an opinion on things recommended by the dealer and quotes to do the work.

Dealerships will generally crush you on repair costs. My $10 oil change place wants me to pay $275 for a "full transmission service" at my next oil change. With a manual transmission like mine, that's code for "drain-and-fill." My trusted local shop will do it for $50.
Don't you have more chance of the dealer giving you crap though if you do the work somewhere else and then do need warranty work?
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Old 04-10-2012, 02:41 PM   #7
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Don't you have more chance of the dealer giving you crap though if you do the work somewhere else and then do need warranty work?
The "chance of the dealer giving you crap" always exists.

But, Chrysler cannot lawfully require you to go to the dealership for service to maintain warranty coverage unless they offer the service for free. This is obliquely reflected in your warranty manual--which "strongly recommends" you go to the dealer for service, but never claims you are required to do so.

This legal hurdle makes perfect sense, since if manufacturers could require you to use dealer service departments to keep up warranty coverage they'd charge ridiculous prices or set absurd maintenance schedules, which would then let them point to your failure to adhere as a way of getting out warranty coverage altogether. For example, "Sorry about your cracked header, but it looks like you missed your mandatory 1542 mile scheduled service, for which we would have charged $3500. We're shocked at your disregard for you new jeep's well being. As a result, we decline to honor the warranty as to your header."

Of course, your warranty only covers the vehicle as it left the factory and won't cover any damage caused by improper maintainance. So when you change your own diff fluid out for Mountain Dew--or go to a sketchy mechanic who does so--don't count on Chrysler to replace your ring and pinion.

This reveals the only upshot to going to the dealer for maintenance. It avoids the possibility of the dealer blaming poor maintenance for what would otherwise be a warranty issue, and, relatedly, it avoids record keeping problems associated with proving proper maintenance.

For example, let's say you show up at 25k miles with a seized engine and ask for warranty coverage. The dealer finds no oil in the engine. The dealer concludes you must have not been changing your oil regularly, and that you must have gone at least 10k miles since your last change. You disagree, saying you change your own oil in your driveway or have some local Auto Shop do it.

Well, can you prove you got the oil changed? Perhaps. You might have receipts from Autozone for the oil. Can you prove the local shop didn't put in the wrong grade? Perhaps. They could swear they did so or provide some of their records. But either way, those would be non-issues if the dealer's own system showed an oil change every 3k.

So the short answer is that if you have properly maintained your jeep, there should--under law--be no warranty coverage issues arising out of your maintenance regardless of who's been performing it. However, if it has been being maintained by somebody other than the dealer, and an issue arises that would be covered by warranty if the jeep had been properly maintained, then you may get some heat from the dealer if they want to deny warranty coverage on the basis of improper maintenance.

Thus, the solution (absent overpaying the dealer) is to use a trusted shop and keep good records. This is the most cost effective way to both maintain your jeep and make it as difficult as possible for a dealer to blame poor maintenance for matters that should be covered by warranty.
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Ugh...I had the dealer replace my brake pads about a month or so ago

Huge mistake and I knew it

I don't even want to tell you what I paid!
I'm still kicking myself for letting them do the job
I've never done any kind of brake par/rotor swaps, but even if I went to my mechanic down the street from me it would have been a lot less than what I paid I'm sure!

Don't pay the dealer $351 to change the pads!!
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Has anyone put on slotted or drilled rotors? How about ceramic pads? I am looking at a break job by the end of summer. I put Drilled/slotted rotors with ceramic pads on the front of our Durango and it made a big difference in distance time.
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Has anyone put on slotted or drilled rotors? How about ceramic pads? I am looking at a break job by the end of summer. I put Drilled/slotted rotors with ceramic pads on the front of our Durango and it made a big difference in distance time.
For a street queen yes

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Old 04-12-2012, 08:11 AM   #12
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So i dropped my car off for a simple oil change and what do you know my rear brakes are "85% worn down"....the guy at the dealership says i should replace the rear brake pads now or might have to change the pads and rotors down the road. The dealership wants to charge me $351 to change the brake pads and remove the rotors and make them flat again or risk having to get new pads and rotors in a couple months for around $550...

Im thinking of doing this on my own and have some questions

1. Should i change the rotors and pads or just the pads? I have about 35k miles on the car.If i just change just the pads do i have to flatten the rotors?
2. What brake pads and rotors do you recommend? Where can i order?
3. Do i need any special tools?
4. Is this hard?
5. How the hell do i do this?

appreciate the help and if anyone in Northern NJ wants to help feel free to pm me....thanks everyone i appreciate the help
Ummmm, we're approaching that mileage on ours. I would check first and if needed, remove the pads. A little study and logic will tell you how.
Pick up a set of the best ceramic pads at your local auto store and re-install same. You will need to collapse the calipers for the new ones to fit over the rotors. On other vehicles, I have always used a C clamp and drive socket affair for this. I don't think I would go any further unless the rotors were severely damaged.

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