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Old 01-07-2011, 11:12 PM   #1
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2010 Rubicon TPM crap

What a joke. Seems Chrysler wants you to run tire pressue of 37psi at a minimum no matter what tires you are running. Because of the base tires on a rubi are supposed to run at 37psi (according to sticker on door), if upgradde tires, your still have to run 37psi or you'll get the low tire light. I runn 33's on my rubicon and my TPM light is on unless I set all 5 tires to 37psi which I think it way too high.

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You can have them adjust the setting in the computer at the dealer. Same as changing you tire size so the speedo runs correctly. You can even set it to 0 to basically turn it off. Also a AEV Procal or superchips Flashpaq can reset the TPMS lower or higher

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You just got me thinking... I have a set of Rubi take-offs on my '09 JKX...should I run 37psi because of the tires or is the psi dictated by the vehicle weight?

What do YOU think I should set the pressures at? TPMS be damned...
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Just something interesting I have noticed on my 2011 Rubicon. One week ago I installed 37" tires without any TPMS units in them. I have never had the low pressure light come on, the chime has not sounded, ... nothing. It is almost like not having a TPMS sensor means I do not send a low pressure signal to the Jeeps computer, so no warnings are sounded. I've driven the Jeep for four days now, and have about a hundred miles on it, I would think that would be long enough to set off a low pressure warning.

Maybe just take your TPMS sensors out, and be done with it.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:15 AM   #5
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I run 38 psi. It gets better gas mileage and the tires last longer.
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How should the Jeep know you changed your tires?

Either get a ProCal and adjust it to a proper PSI (i.e., a few pounds shy of your new proper PSI), or set it to zero to effectively turn it off. Alternatively, you could just remove the sensors altogether.

My understanding is that TPMS are required by federal law to be on every new car sold in the US, so it's not like Jeep is just being a pain in the a*s by installing it.
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I run 38 psi. It gets better gas mileage and the tires last longer.
How many sets of STOCK "D" range tires have you gone thru, with 40,000/50,000 miles onem at 38psi and whats your record of mileage increase over the 50,000 miles ???



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You just got me thinking... I have a set of Rubi take-offs on my '09 JKX...should I run 37psi because of the tires or is the psi dictated by the vehicle weight?

What do YOU think I should set the pressures at? TPMS be damned...
It's by the tires. I did the same thing and now run 37 PSI. Unless one is an Unlimited, a Rubicon weighs roughly the same as an X.
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Yea, you said that by running your tires at 38psi, you get better mileage and the tires last longer--


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What are you baseing this on ??

Thats my point, if you got better mileage for 500 miles and your tires look better after 500 miles--?????

You need some high mileage data to prove your point, or if you don't want to prove your point, then it's a useless statement you've made !!

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I'm not gonna agrue with a testy ole somebody who thinks he knows it all. You wouldn't understand something so complicated at physics anyway.
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I know for sure the more the tire pressure the better the gas mileage, Not sure about better tire life though. They did a show on this on the Discover channel. They took a car and ran it at normal pressure of 32 psi then put 45 psi in it (not recommended to do) but the test proved that the car actually got a 20% MPG improvement. Then they ran is at 20 psi and the mpg dropped. The higher the tire pressure the less friction because there is less tire surface hitting the road but you get less traction also.
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Good for you, I'm proud of ya, that you don't wanna argue with "a testy ole somebody who thinks he knows it all" !!


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How many sets of STOCK "D" range tires have you gone thru, with 40,000/50,000 miles onem at 38psi and whats your record of mileage increase over the 50,000 miles ???



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Hey Jimbox:


I gotta tech question for you regarding the AEV Protocal Device..with no TPMS Sensors installed in any of the tires, including the spare. can you set the AEV Device to the zero , will it still shut off the TPMS light on the dash , eventough there are no tire sensors installed?

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Heh Heh, yea, when I mounted my BIG Hankooks on ProComp Alloys--NO SENSORS-


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I gotta tech question for you regarding the AEV Protocal Device..with no TPMS Sensors installed in any of the tires, including the spare. can you set the AEV Device to the zero , will it still shut off the TPMS light on the dash , eventough there are no tire sensors installed?

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I used the AEVPM and set the system to "0" and thats been 7 months--No lights/alarms-nothing on the dash, so it works FINE !!

I also cal'd the speedo and "fooled" the tranny into thinking I was running 4.88 gears-

It's a good system-

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Heh Heh, yea, when I mounted my BIG Hankooks on ProComp Alloys--NO SENSORS-




I used the AEVPM and set the system to "0" and thats been 7 months--No lights/alarms-nothing on the dash, so it works FINE !!

I also cal'd the speedo and "fooled" the tranny into thinking I was running 4.88 gears-

It's a good system-

Good luck

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COOL: I will be buying one second hand from a friend that is selling his. I am aware that he must bring his settings back to factory on his Jeep in order for the AEV Tool to take on my VIN # in order to work. I was reading on-line about the 9 dip[ switches and their settings for different functions. When you set the 9 dip switches for the zero setting, totally disabling the TPMS Setting as you did for the TPMS function ,,, from left to right would it be the following:::::
First 3 dip switches up and the next 6 dip switches down????

Thanks for your help,, much appreciated
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RATS, I can't tell you on the DP settings, my jeep/AEVPM/instr. are in Nevada and I just got back to Ca, does your friend have the info quicky??


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COOL: I will be buying one second hand from a friend that is selling his. I am aware that he must bring his settings back to factory on his Jeep in order for the AEV Tool to take on my VIN # in order to work. I was reading on-line about the 9 dip[ switches and their settings for different functions. When you set the 9 dip switches for the zero setting, totally disabling the TPMS Setting as you did for the TPMS function ,,, from left to right would it be the following:::::
First 3 dip switches up and the next 6 dip switches down????

Thanks for your help,, much appreciated
The settings should all be the same and the only diffs would be for speedo cal's (tire size installed)

You may have to call AEV, if he doesn't have the info !!

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RATS, I can't tell you on the DP settings, my jeep/AEVPM/instr. are in Nevada and I just got back to Ca, does your friend have the info quicky??




The settings should all be the same and the only diffs would be for speedo cal's (tire size installed)

You may have to call AEV, if he doesn't have the info !!

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JIMBOX ,,,, Your loosing your touch dude....just kidding, LOL Only dip switches that I am not sure on is numbers 4 and 5 " reading them from left to right. you have a choice between ranges of 0-15 or 16-31 PSI... I am going with the 0-15 setting for the DIP Switches 4 and 5??? , to shutt down the TPMS for good and The last 4 DIP Switches " left to right" refer to the 0 setting from what I understand. I attached the link below.


http://pphlogger.modwest.com/dlcount..._Reference.pdf

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YUP, thats it-first 3 "UP" and next 6 "down", that way, you'll never have to think about what you've set your pressures at, but


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JIMBOX ,,,, Your loosing your touch dude....just kidding, LOL Only dip switches that I am not sure on is numbers 4 and 5 " reading them from left to right. you have a choice between ranges of 0-15 or 16-31 PSI... I am going with the 0-15 setting for the DIP Switches 4 and 5??? , to shutt down the TPMS for good and The last 4 DIP Switches " left to right" refer to the 0 setting from what I understand. I attached the link below.


http://pphlogger.modwest.com/dlcount..._Reference.pdf

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We're going back to the old days and you should check your tires (just by sight) everytime you go somewhere and thats easy, just a quick glance, you'll notice any tire if it's losing air !!

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YUP, thats it-first 3 "UP" and next 6 "down", that way, you'll never have to think about what you've set your pressures at, but




We're going back to the old days and you should check your tires (just by sight) everytime you go somewhere and thats easy, just a quick glance, you'll notice any tire if it's losing air !!

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Thanks for your input. Much appreciated. I bought a while back from Walmart a compressor with a air airtank combo kit along with a tire chuck that has a built in inflator / deflator and tire guage. Very easy to fill it up and take it outside and supplies enough air in the tank to maintain all 5 tires every so often. Not bad all for under $100. Not a big fan of Walmart , but so far the Campbell Hausfeld Air Compressor and the accessories have been proven very reliable and not too hard on the wallet.

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--KEWL, have you got a portable 12VDC compressor, or are you thinking of an OBA-installed ???


QUOTE=SLIM_SNOOPY;977178]Thanks for your input. Much appreciated. I bought a while back from Walmart a compressor with a air airtank combo kit along with a tire chuck that has a built in inflator / deflator and tire guage. Very easy to fill it up and take it outside and supplies enough air in the tank to maintain all 5 tires every so often. Not bad all for under $100. Not a big fan of Walmart , but so far the Campbell Hausfeld Air Compressor and the accessories have been proven very reliable and not too hard on the wallet.

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--KEWL, have you got a portable 12VDC compressor, or are you thinking of an OBA-installed ???


QUOTE=SLIM_SNOOPY;977178]Thanks for your input. Much appreciated. I bought a while back from Walmart a compressor with a air airtank combo kit along with a tire chuck that has a built in inflator / deflator and tire guage. Very easy to fill it up and take it outside and supplies enough air in the tank to maintain all 5 tires every so often. Not bad all for under $100. Not a big fan of Walmart , but so far the Campbell Hausfeld Air Compressor and the accessories have been proven very reliable and not too hard on the wallet.

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I carry a 12 volt cheapo for those emergency moments, One day I might install an onboard air system. My friend did a custom install on his JK,, works and looks awsome.

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Yea, I've had mine for over 1˝ years and it's STUPENDOUS--


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I carry a 12 volt cheapo for those emergency moments, One day I might install an onboard air system. My friend did a custom install on his JK,, works and looks awsome.

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Very nice setup !!!!!!!! Worth every penny.. You did the install yourself?
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Don't quote me on this, but I would look up laws about the TPMs. A buddy of mine mounts tires, and he told me he has to sell TPMs for every new set of rims he sells. He told me he would be breaking federal law if he didn't install them. I believe you can't remove safety feature with most newer vehicles.

ONCE AGAIN, don't quote me on this. I could be ill informed, and I would research it yourself further.
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YUP, that was a long time ago and I had my own sw board and relays, I think the ARB deal comes with harness and relay/sw though, now I just use the sPOD sys for EVERYTHING --


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Very nice setup !!!!!!!! Worth every penny.. You did the install yourself?
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Don't quote me on this, but I would look up laws about the TPMs. A buddy of mine mounts tires, and he told me he has to sell TPMs for every new set of rims he sells. He told me he would be breaking federal law if he didn't install them. I believe you can't remove safety feature with most newer vehicles.

ONCE AGAIN, don't quote me on this. I could be ill informed, and I would research it yourself further.
Actually , when you think about it, The TPMS causes more issues at times. The average person who is not in the know that inflating a tire right after running it can cause more issues. No tire should be filled with air when driven on for a while. But how many of us see it everyday at your local gas station, trying to air up to get the TPMS light to shutt off. There have been actual confirmed reports where folks put air in a tire while it was still hot , drove off and had the tire explode , causing an accident.

While most of us on here already know that using a tire guage and only airing up a tire when it is cold , you will be suprise what some folks do who have no clue. Recently , at the gas station I was watching this hot chick airing up one of her tires on her KIA. She kept looking at the TPMS Light as an indicator that if it goes off asap ,indicating that the tire is now full.

Long story short,I helped her out " The kind of guy I am , helping out a chick,,,lol by taking my pressure guage and the tire info from the door pannel and the tire itself ; explaining that the light takes a little bit to go out. It does not always go off while inflating it asap.... some do, ans some do not,, with no guage and over inflating the tire, who knows what would have happen to her.. My whole point is that folks get the miss conception that they can use this TPMS technology to never have to chgeck their tires like the old days. I check my pressure every 2 weeks m, along with daily inspections. Yes, if you read the manual you would know this, but how many folks out there with the average car read the book or every page....

And Yeah, I got her number as well...lol It truly was a Jeep thing,,,,lol

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Thats funny SLIM, I'da let all the air outta the tire and offer lunch while the garage fixed the (FLAT)


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Actually , when you think about it, The TPMS causes more issues at times. The average person who is not in the know that inflating a tire right after running it can cause more issues. No tire should be filled with air when driven on for a while. But how many of us see it everyday at your local gas station, trying to air up to get the TPMS light to shutt off. There have been actual confirmed reports where folks put air in a tire while it was still hot , drove off and had the tire explode , causing an accident.

While most of us on here already know that using a tire guage and only airing up a tire when it is cold , you will be suprise what some folks do who have no clue. Recently , at the gas station I was watching this hot chick airing up one of her tires on her KIA. She kept looking at the TPMS Light as an indicator that if it goes off asap ,indicating that the tire is now full.

Long story short,I helped her out " The kind of guy I am , helping out a chick,,,lol by taking my pressure guage and the tire info from the door pannel and the tire itself ; explaining that the light takes a little bit to go out. It does not always go off while inflating it asap.... some do, ans some do not,, with no guage and over inflating the tire, who knows what would have happen to her.. My whole point is that folks get the miss conception that they can use this TPMS technology to never have to chgeck their tires like the old days. I check my pressure every 2 weeks m, along with daily inspections. Yes, if you read the manual you would know this, but how many folks out there with the average car read the book or every page....

And Yeah, I got her number as well...lol It truly was a Jeep thing,,,,lol

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The Fed law applies to NEW vehicles for sale and used car sales, if they were equiped with the TPMS-NEW_

You can do anything you want to, to YOUR car, but if you sell it, you're required to "state"--No TPMS and/or speedo is out of cal-if you've added big tires and didn't correct the speedo !!

ULTIMATELY-depends on STATE/COUNTY/CITY-

Batteries not included !

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