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Old 04-18-2010, 07:14 PM   #1
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2010 Wrangler & Rustoleum Paint

My new Wrangler looks pretty good until you look under it. Parts of the black frame are scratched and starting to rust and the rear axle looks terrible as far as rust goes. Should I even mention the drive shafts?

So, I bought some black Rustoleum and hit it with a paint brush this afternoon. My 2010 Ford F-150 and 2009 Ford Edge look fine both top & bottom. Seems that Chrysler and their quality is not what it should be, at least as far as under the Wrangler.

I wish that Ford would buy Jeep as I think the quality might be better. Some may think I am a bit anal, however a 1 week old Jeep made in February should be better I would think.

Am I expecting too much?

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Old 04-18-2010, 07:53 PM   #2
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My new Wrangler looks pretty good until you look under it. Parts of the black frame are scratched and starting to rust and the rear axle looks terrible as far as rust goes. Should I even mention the drive shafts?

So, I bought some black Rustoleum and hit it with a paint brush this afternoon. My 2010 Ford F-150 and 2009 Ford Edge look fine both top & bottom. Seems that Chrysler and their quality is not what it should be, at least as far as under the Wrangler.

I wish that Ford would buy Jeep as I think the quality might be better. Some may think I am a bit anal, however a 1 week old Jeep made in February should be better I would think.

Am I expecting too much?

Phil in Indiana
All Jeeps have that surface rust, as well as most vehicles period. The Jeep is just easy to see because it's up tall, but most all cars have bare medal drive shafts and axles, so they're going to have that look to them. Congrats on your Fords! Neither will ever go where your wrangler will and neither will have even half of the resale value.

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It's 'cause they know you are just gonna go drivin' down a bunch of rocky, muddy, tree lined trails and scrape all that paint off anyway... They're just saving you the trouble I guarantee you that Jeep will go places so easy, that your Fords would never accomplish without a lot of help, if then....
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Old 04-18-2010, 08:36 PM   #4
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You been driving on those salt roads in the Winter haven't you?
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Old 04-19-2010, 06:26 AM   #5
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All Jeeps have that surface rust, as well as most vehicles period. The Jeep is just easy to see because it's up tall, but most all cars have bare medal drive shafts and axles, so they're going to have that look to them. Congrats on your Fords! Neither will ever go where your wrangler will and neither will have even half of the resale value.
Agreed that Jeeps hold their value somewhat better than other vehicles. I just think the quality should be better. I have crawled under all my vehicles to do my own oil changes and see that the Fords I have and the GM's in the past are painted better. Don't get me wrong, I like the JK very much, it is just not fun to see all that rust on a brand new vehicle.
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Old 04-19-2010, 06:33 AM   #6
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It's 'cause they know you are just gonna go drivin' down a bunch of rocky, muddy, tree lined trails and scrape all that paint off anyway... They're just saving you the trouble I guarantee you that Jeep will go places so easy, that your Fords would never accomplish without a lot of help, if then....
I really do not think I am going to do any serious rock crawling with my brand new Jeep. It is more of a summertime top off toy for my wife & I. As far as getting around on rocks & such, your right, the Edge and F-150 will not keep up, nor would I use them for such. However in deep heavy snow, if I was to compare my F-150 4X4 with the Jeep, I know without question that it will out perform both the Jeep and of course the AWD Edge.

They are all different and they each have their purpose. I like them all. It is just the quality concerns I have. But it will look like new under the JK when I finish!
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You been driving on those salt roads in the Winter haven't you?
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No, I just got the Jeep about a week ago. It has been washed and only driven about 350 miles so far and 200 of them was the dealer driving it back from Ohio to Indiana for me. So it basically had no miles on it unless they drove it at the Ohio dealership in the snow. It looks like both the axles were left outside to rust before they installed them...
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I have a 2009 F150 and agree, the quality is exceptional. However, even with that, there are a lot of posts on the F150 forums describing incomplete paint, particularly around the door openings. Bottom line is attention to paint ain't what it used to be. Also, compare rust/corrosion warranties between Ford and Jeep.
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I have a 2009 F150 and agree, the quality is exceptional. However, even with that, there are a lot of posts on the F150 forums describing incomplete paint, particularly around the door openings. Bottom line is attention to paint ain't what it used to be. Also, compare rust/corrosion warranties between Ford and Jeep.
Copy That....However didn't I just read a thread about someones emergency brake lever rusting on a new Jeep and the dealer saying that it was not covered because it was just surface rust? If we go out and scratch them up ourselves, then that is one thing. If they come from the factory rusty then that is not something after paying big $$$ should even happen or be of a concern. I expect to keep my JK for a long time and hope it lasts.
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PS...No door opening paint issues with my F-150.
PS#2...This is not a thread to bash the new Wranglers, I am just a bit disappointed with the quality control. So please, no one take it personally
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Hey, you have a perfect right to gripe. I am sensitive to corrosion, having previously owned an expensive Land Rover Defender that literally rotted away in front of my eyes. Sad, but a lot is left up to the owner, doing what we can to wash undercarraige, unclog weep holes, and paint where they missed like you did. They spray our iced roads here in Colorado with MgCl2 and it absolutely prevents one from having any lasting chrome on their rig. Do you think underbody spray coatings help? I was thinking about it for my new Jeep ... heard they keep road noise down but can also trap moisture. Opinions on this?
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Hey, you have a perfect right to gripe. I am sensitive to corrosion, having previously owned an expensive Land Rover Defender that literally rotted away in front of my eyes. Sad, but a lot is left up to the owner, doing what we can to wash undercarraige, unclog weep holes, and paint where they missed like you did. They spray our iced roads here in Colorado with MgCl2 and it absolutely prevents one from having any lasting chrome on their rig. Do you think underbody spray coatings help? I was thinking about it for my new Jeep ... heard they keep road noise down but can also trap moisture. Opinions on this?
As far as underbody coatings, I never thought about that. I think you would want to do that before the rust started if possible. In my case, this jeep is only going to be a summertime toy, sitting next to my Harley to use in the warm weather. The other vehicles, will be used for the winter time. Actually, I have a 4X4 company truck so the Edge usually only gets driven unless I have to go somewhere when I am off work and the snow or ice is terrible. Then the F-150 comes out of the garage.

With the liquid salt sprayed on the roads, your right, is is extremely corrosive and it does not get washed off the roads easily. This spring it took more than a few rains to see it all come off the pavement. Sorry to hear about your LR. In Indiana here we get lake affect snow so I know all to well about road salt

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