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Old 08-12-2012, 11:54 AM   #1
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2011-2013 Under (driver) Seat Cross Bar Function??

Hey guys. I ran into a problem last night when trying to install a lockbox in my 2011 jk sport. The lock box is supposed to mount uner the seat but in the 2011-2013 there is a crossbar under the front portion of the seat that stands in the way of installing a lock box.

Browsing the forum i have come across a few people who have the same issue. Many have suggested removing the cross bar via the 2 torx screws and just moving the wires side ways for an easy install.

My question is, does anyone know the function of the crossbar. Is it a design preference or safety concern.

If you know please let me know.
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Old 08-12-2012, 12:23 PM   #2
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It's a wiring harness bracket - as people said in the Amazon reviews in the previous posts. Just zip tie the wires out of the way. It is in no way structural.

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Old 08-12-2012, 12:30 PM   #3
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I thought the boxes would not work on the 2 door 2011 and up because of the seat tilting forward for easier access to the rear.
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Old 08-12-2012, 05:00 PM   #4
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Pretty sure you will have to cut the crossbar. Doesnt look structural as the front bolts still hold the track down.

does anyone have pics of the bar cut and the box installed. I'm tempted to do this soon.
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:38 PM   #5
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I wouldnt cut. The way i see it, is if its there then there is a reason. Many on the forum where saying that it disconnects with 2 torx screws. I took a closer look and it is definitely welded in there.
Im pretty sure if there was god forbit an accident, insurance company wouldnt take too kindly too the fact that you cut what seems to look like a "structural crossbar" from beneath a seat....

I am ready to look for alternatives although so far i see none I find it funny how jeeps seem to be a puzzle and there are parts for just about everything but when it comes to a simple lock box we all seem puzzled (see what i did there with the work "puzzle"? lol)

If anyone has any ideas id be grateful.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:23 PM   #6
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I put a tuffy under my seat in my 2011 JKU and the metal bracket that gets in the way is nothing more than a support for the wiring loom. I unscrewed the 2 screws, removed it, threw it away, and cable tied the wires to the base of the seat.
There was nothing under mine that was welded that got in the way.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:27 PM   #7
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same on 2012 two bolts and out to flimsy to be structural.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:34 PM   #8
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Here is the install sheet from bestop. Page 2 shows the install with moving the harness. I am ordering mine tonight.

http://www.bestop.com/images/install...ides/42640.pdf
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2011 and later, 2-door Wranglers have a "slide and tilt" seat to enable easier access to rear seat. The driver and passenger slide and tilt seats have a welded bar that prevents installing an under-seat security box. Forget it.

4-door, install away. No welded bar, just remove the flimsy wiring bracket.
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:51 PM   #10
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Just saw a thread about installing the lock box on another site. The owner cut out enough bar to slide the box in and then welded the remaining bar to the box itself. Nice DIY if you know how to weld.
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Just saw a thread about installing the lock box on another site. The owner cut out enough bar to slide the box in and then welded the remaining bar to the box itself. Nice DIY if you know how to weld.
care to share the link?
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its not welded in it is held in by torx all it does is hold wires all you have to do once its removed is zip tie the wires around the box whenb its installed if you have a 4 door
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its not welded in it is held in by torx all it does is hold wires all you have to do once its removed is zip tie the wires around the box whenb its installed if you have a 4 door
Taken 2 minutes ago. I call this weld!


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Taken 2 minutes ago. I call this weld!
2dr jeeps do not work with under seat lock boxes without extra modification. The 4dr you just have to remove the bracket.
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right that is welded and i CLEARLY stated in 4 door models which you FAILED to state that you had a 2 door
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2011 and later, 2-door Wranglers have a "slide and tilt" seat to enable easier access to rear seat. The driver and passenger slide and tilt seats have a welded bar that prevents installing an under-seat security box. Forget it.

4-door, install away. No welded bar, just remove the flimsy wiring bracket.

Bill also clearly stated it..if you take time to read the posts that people put to try and help you maybe you will learn something
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care to share the link?

Here ya go..http://http://www.jkfreaks.com/forum...all-competed!!
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Old 08-24-2012, 02:47 AM   #18
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right that is welded and i CLEARLY stated in 4 door models which you FAILED to state that you had a 2 door
I did misread your post and i do apologize for that. I thought you said something about a 2 door being without weld after we discussed that it could not be done...

I do appreciate all your help though. Thanks.
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Link seems broken to me...
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I did misread your post and i do apologize for that. I thought you said something about a 2 door being without weld after we discussed that it could not be done...

I do appreciate all your help though. Thanks.
Cheers.



Link seems broken to me...
Sorry, maybe it'll work this time....

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