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Old 02-16-2011, 05:03 AM   #1
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2011 Detonator Yellow Finally Arrived

Valentines Day, I flew to Melbourne and picked up my new JK.
Detonator Yellow 4 door fitted with
AEV Snorkel
Warn Winch and Mopar front bar
Front Skid Plate
Mopar rock rails
Mopar rear bar and tyre carrier
front disconnects
Heavy duty shocks
2" Mopar approved lift
AND BEST OF ALL ITS A DIESEL

The downside of the whole event was that after 4 hours driving back home and with 397km on the clock, the check engine light came on and it went into limp mode, then died.

The Jeep was then flat trayed 110 miles to the nearest Jeep dealer who has advised its a problem with the diesel particulate filter assembly and its 2 weeks for the part to come from the states

As I'm in the states for the next 2 weeks, I look forward to getting home and finding it in the driveway.

While I was able to drive it, it was great. Really felt good on the open road and the average fuel consumption was 10.3L per 100km, which is about 27mpg at an average speed of 55mph.

Great start to the day, but a lousy finish!
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Old 02-16-2011, 05:06 AM   #2
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You Aussies just love rubbing it in Americans' faces with the diesel stuff. Seriously though, it's a great looking Jeep and I hope you enjoy your purchase. Just wish we had the damn diesel here in the States.

By the way, it looks like you didn't waste any time getting a snorkel on that thing. Was that installed at the dealer?

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Everything was dealer installed!
I've got a ton of stuff to add to it when I get it back, and when I get back.
Its currently over 600 miles away at he dealer awaiting the parts.
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I would do a DPF delete as soon as possible and have the computer settings changed so it never goes into regin mode. Guys on the ford forum do it all the time on the power stroke diesels and gain 3 or 4 mpg and better horsepower. Dpf= junk and will leave you stranded. Oh you already know that! The main reason I don't own diesel pickups anymore. Overpriced junk! what model is that anyway?
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You Aussies just love rubbing it in Americans' faces with the diesel stuff. Seriously though, it's a great looking Jeep and I hope you enjoy your purchase. Just wish we had the damn diesel here in the States.

By the way, it looks like you didn't waste any time getting a snorkel on that thing. Was that installed at the dealer?
They do...so I did something about it

I pulled some strings, got his account info from here, then used it to get his VON number. Knowing when it would be built, I intercepted the vehicle coming out of the plant and into staging and p'd in his gas tank right before it was loaded on the train from Toledo.

"I got your diesel right here!"

So after you broke down, were you able to find a kangaroo to ride home?
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Jeep Assist provided me with 2 emu's, 4 kangaroos and 3 koalas to get home with.
They also put me up in a motel overnight and a rental car.
Don't you know you can't ride a bloody kangaroo - they hop too high and kick too hard
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1) Nice Jeep
2) DPFs suck... our buses have them and are always breaking down
3) The part has to come from the USA, but we can't get a diesel here? WTF...
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Congrats and sorry to hear about the issues, Bruce.
It amazes me that it's 2 weeks for you to get the part from the States, yet we can't get the diesel engine here.
Seriously, how about you just stay here in the States, you can have my house and I'll take yours in Oz.
BEAUTIFUL country.
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1) Nice Jeep
2) DPFs suck... our buses have them and are always breaking down
3) The part has to come from the USA, but we can't get a diesel here? WTF...
I wonder where his diesel jeep was made, maybe in the USA or elsewhere? Who needs a diesel when we will have the super holy,koesher pentastar, which I am sure has more HP then that old rattletrap diesel. Oh and plug it in and don't forget fuel conditioner or it will be gelled up tighter then a nuns, you know. Diesels or way overrated in small vehicles. Oh and wait weeks for parts. Put a saddle on that kangaroo and hang on mate!!
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why can't we get a diesel in the states?
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why can't we get a diesel in the states?
Californacation.
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why can't we get a diesel in the states?
State and Federal "clean air" regulations
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Californacation.
Elaborate please? All I could hear was Arnold Schwarzenegger saying Cali-for-ni-a when I read that
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so diesel's give better gas mileage, but pollute the air more?
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why can't we get a diesel in the states?
no good reasons. chrysler says "we're having trouble getting them to pass emissions", ford says "americans don't want diesels" and gm can be credited for soiling the reputation of diesels with their crap converter gasoline engines from the 70's and 80's. add to it the fact that most americans know NOTHING about modern diesel technology........
in europe where the gas prices make ours look dirt cheap, diesels are everywhere. the emissions excuse is a cop out, the manufacturers just don't want to invest the money on meeting u.s. emissions standards unless they KNOW it will be profitable for them. i think recent trends show that people want economical cars. it might take a strong marketing push to get people familiar with modern diesel tech and they might not see a profit for a few years, but in the long run diesels may just save the internal combustion engine.
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so diesel's give better gas mileage, but pollute the air more?
that's only partially true. for years, there were NO emissions controls on diesels. in the past few years, they have slapped a ton of new regulations on diesels and the technology hasn't been able to catch up yet. hence the DPF issue the thread starter experienced. if you look at some of the modern diesels from bmw, jaguar, mercedes among many others from europe, they are as clean as any gas engine, if not cleaner.
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that's only partially true. for years, there were NO emissions controls on diesels. in the past few years, they have slapped a ton of new regulations on diesels and the technology hasn't been able to catch up yet. hence the DPF issue the thread starter experienced. if you look at some of the modern diesels from bmw, jaguar, mercedes among many others from europe, they are as clean as any gas engine, if not cleaner.
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Quite true. VW sells quite a few diesels in this country so obviously it can be done. The question is whether it can be done for a price American manufacturers are willing to pay.
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damn, in that case i want a diesel even more now
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yep. the pentastar is good step forward, but the potential diesel in the not too distant future is what excites me.
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Actually, the European companies want to bring more diesels to the US, but regulations and environmentalists don't want them here because they think of the 70's when they here the word diesel. In Europe, you can buy a top of the line BMW and Mercedes with a diesel engine, and they don't make junk engines. Here's BMW's super bowl commercial.

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that's what makes me nuts. all the misinformation about modern diesels and nobody bothers to actually do any research to see what they can do with them now. the big trucks you see spouting black smoke everywhere are NOT representative of a modern, efficient diesel. it's old technology with a face-lift. throw in to that the people that think anything the europeans want must be bad for us and you get a better picture of why we don't have many diesel options here.
check this out:
Dailymotion - Used BMW Dealership Races The X5 Diesel vs Gasoline - a Tech & Science video
not really scientific, but you get the idea.
anyway, sorry to
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Well, the beauty of the VW system over some of the competing systems (like from Mercedes) is that it does not require the complex urea-injection system to get the engine in compliance with clean air rules. Instead it uses an andanced catalyst system that burns of the excess soot that will collect in the particulate filter. In essence, when a sensor detects the soot has reached a certain level, the system simply injects more fuel and burns off the excess soot. The cycle then begins anew. Of course, eventually the particulate filter will wear out, but it is far less complex than the urea-injection system. I think it would work on a Jeep.

The problem is not the lack of technology, it is the lack of investment in diesel by American companies that European companies have done over the last few decades. AFter the last diesel debacle, American companies lost interest but diesel demand remained strong in Europe and fueled technoligical development-especially among German car companies. Now, the Americans are behind the power curve and in financial distress such that they are hesitant to invest money in a brand new engine technology that may or may not pay off in the mass market.
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Now, the Americans are behind the power curve and in financial distress such that they are hesitant to invest money in a brand new engine technology that may or may not pay off in the mass market.
which is hilarious to me given all the new gasoline engines that have been developed over the past 10 years........
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I thought this thread was about a broken down Jeep in Australia?
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I thought this thread was about a broken down Jeep in Australia?
Well, it was about a broken down diesel Jeep in Australia.
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Nice looking Jeep! Only one problem...your steering wheel is on the wrong side.

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