2011 or 2012 - Page 2 - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 08-18-2011, 06:19 AM   #31
The Bad Guy

WF Supporting Member
 
daggo66's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NJ exile living in Baltimore
Posts: 22,055
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Pass please
I wasn't the one smoking.

__________________
Tom

"I've got two things in this world, my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one."
daggo66 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-18-2011, 07:21 AM   #32
MallCrawler

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 33,779
Quote:
Originally Posted by daggo66

I wasn't the one smoking.
I never mentioned the words "resale value" in a Rubi-sport thread

__________________
2007 Rubicon/Rock Krawler TR 2.5 coils/rear TB/Rancho 9000 31/32XL shocks/Teraflex monster TB/Synergy highsteer,tie rod, ball joints/Hankook MT 315-75-16 on Level 8 ZX's/MC front SB links/Rancho geo brackets & shocks/Fox ATS stabilizer/Adams front DS/Artec front armor w/ Currie upper bushings=Frankinjeep from hell.

Lifting your JK? Read this!!



Click HERE to become a WranglerForum Supporting Member!
kjeeper10 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-18-2011, 07:24 AM   #33
The Bad Guy

WF Supporting Member
 
daggo66's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NJ exile living in Baltimore
Posts: 22,055
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I never mentioned the words "resale value" in a Rubi-sport thread
Never said you did.
__________________
Tom

"I've got two things in this world, my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one."
daggo66 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-18-2011, 07:45 AM   #34
MallCrawler

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 33,779
Quote:
Originally Posted by daggo66

Never said you did.
I actually did
__________________
2007 Rubicon/Rock Krawler TR 2.5 coils/rear TB/Rancho 9000 31/32XL shocks/Teraflex monster TB/Synergy highsteer,tie rod, ball joints/Hankook MT 315-75-16 on Level 8 ZX's/MC front SB links/Rancho geo brackets & shocks/Fox ATS stabilizer/Adams front DS/Artec front armor w/ Currie upper bushings=Frankinjeep from hell.

Lifting your JK? Read this!!



Click HERE to become a WranglerForum Supporting Member!
kjeeper10 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-18-2011, 08:09 AM   #35
Jeeper
 
off a cough's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 188
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by daggo66 View Post
Let's say for instance the trumpet loop on the exhaust causes some unforeseen consequence in the coming months for some reason, just as an example. Which year will have the better resale value now? Not resale price, but value as relative to the original price? There's just no way of knowing at this stage of the game. Is that likely? Of course not! My point, which you can't seem to grasp, is that this thread is about buying a 2011 or a 2012. Of all the reasons why it would be better to buy a 2012 (which I have stated many times I would) the least of the reasons would be resale value, as the one reply posted. It is a completely unknown factor in the equation.

It's the same as the Sport vs. Rubicon question. There are numerous threads with people trying to decide which to get and in every single one, someone will post to get the Rubicon because of higher resale value. Both vehicles hold their resale value extremely well, naturally the Rubicon will cost more on the used market because it costs more to start with. That means nothing in terms of holding residual value.

Sometimes a feature or benefit that costs more, can actually lower resale value. Try selling a modded Jeep and add in the cost of what you put into it. See how well that works out for you. The market decides the price.

A 2006 could have better resale value than a 2010 despite the fact that the 2010 will cost more.


I'm selling a modded TJ and I know exactly how that works. Things like wheels and winch may get a modest bit of credit, most upgrades don't get squat, and in fact can hurt.

In a former life I worked dealer auctions and sold both to dealers and private sale. The sale price and value are not the same, and more money went into my pocket when people thought otherwise. You're not bringing anything new here.

As for whether or not you would use resale value as a valid decision making consideration, I absolutely would consider it, but with limited weight. For instance, when I bought my TJ I had planned on keeping it "forever" (a 3rd child derailed those plans). Resale value was not considered at all.

But back to my original post, which prefaced in italics (look it up again, it's right there in the thread) "All other things being equal...". You gave an example of an unknown model-year specific defect, which accounts for easily as much speculation as anything else we're discussing, which means we're not even making the same comparison.

So let's try again, and pretend for the sake of argument that 2012 has NO major changes from 2011. ==>If all other things are indeed equal<==, let's say drivetrain, body, trumpet loop off the manifold, and the quality of weed smoked by the workers on their lunch hour, this will be true: Even if build one day after the other, the 2012 will have more value both in the books and on the street because buyers will view it as a newer vehicle. It is a valid consideration, although I will give you that it is not nearly as important as drivetrain changes etc.
__________________
New and shiny:
2012 JK Rubicon Unlimited 5-speed auto

Gone but not forgotten:
2004 TJ Rubicon 5-speed manual

off a cough is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-18-2011, 08:35 AM   #36
The Bad Guy

WF Supporting Member
 
daggo66's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NJ exile living in Baltimore
Posts: 22,055
We actually agree much more than we disagree. There's no sense in debating for the sake of debate.
__________________
Tom

"I've got two things in this world, my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one."
daggo66 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-18-2011, 08:42 AM   #37
MallCrawler

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 33,779
I agree ^^ you guys are agreeing on a lot of the same things
__________________
2007 Rubicon/Rock Krawler TR 2.5 coils/rear TB/Rancho 9000 31/32XL shocks/Teraflex monster TB/Synergy highsteer,tie rod, ball joints/Hankook MT 315-75-16 on Level 8 ZX's/MC front SB links/Rancho geo brackets & shocks/Fox ATS stabilizer/Adams front DS/Artec front armor w/ Currie upper bushings=Frankinjeep from hell.

Lifting your JK? Read this!!



Click HERE to become a WranglerForum Supporting Member!
kjeeper10 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-18-2011, 09:19 AM   #38
The Bad Guy

WF Supporting Member
 
daggo66's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NJ exile living in Baltimore
Posts: 22,055
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I agree ^^ you guys are agreeing on a lot of the same things
Hey, no one is agreeing with you!
__________________
Tom

"I've got two things in this world, my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one."
daggo66 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-18-2011, 09:27 AM   #39
MallCrawler

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 33,779
Quote:
Originally Posted by daggo66

Hey, no one is agreeing with you!
I agree
__________________
2007 Rubicon/Rock Krawler TR 2.5 coils/rear TB/Rancho 9000 31/32XL shocks/Teraflex monster TB/Synergy highsteer,tie rod, ball joints/Hankook MT 315-75-16 on Level 8 ZX's/MC front SB links/Rancho geo brackets & shocks/Fox ATS stabilizer/Adams front DS/Artec front armor w/ Currie upper bushings=Frankinjeep from hell.

Lifting your JK? Read this!!



Click HERE to become a WranglerForum Supporting Member!
kjeeper10 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-18-2011, 09:31 AM   #40
The Bad Guy

WF Supporting Member
 
daggo66's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NJ exile living in Baltimore
Posts: 22,055




__________________
Tom

"I've got two things in this world, my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one."
daggo66 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-18-2011, 09:46 AM   #41
MallCrawler

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 33,779
Could not resist
__________________
2007 Rubicon/Rock Krawler TR 2.5 coils/rear TB/Rancho 9000 31/32XL shocks/Teraflex monster TB/Synergy highsteer,tie rod, ball joints/Hankook MT 315-75-16 on Level 8 ZX's/MC front SB links/Rancho geo brackets & shocks/Fox ATS stabilizer/Adams front DS/Artec front armor w/ Currie upper bushings=Frankinjeep from hell.

Lifting your JK? Read this!!



Click HERE to become a WranglerForum Supporting Member!
kjeeper10 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-18-2011, 12:50 PM   #42
Jeeper
 
off a cough's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 188
LOL, I agree, too. Have an e-beer on me.
__________________
New and shiny:
2012 JK Rubicon Unlimited 5-speed auto

Gone but not forgotten:
2004 TJ Rubicon 5-speed manual

off a cough is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-18-2011, 02:18 PM   #43
MallCrawler

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 33,779
Quote:
Originally Posted by off a cough
LOL, I agree, too. Have an e-beer on me.
Thought you were toking? Lol
__________________
2007 Rubicon/Rock Krawler TR 2.5 coils/rear TB/Rancho 9000 31/32XL shocks/Teraflex monster TB/Synergy highsteer,tie rod, ball joints/Hankook MT 315-75-16 on Level 8 ZX's/MC front SB links/Rancho geo brackets & shocks/Fox ATS stabilizer/Adams front DS/Artec front armor w/ Currie upper bushings=Frankinjeep from hell.

Lifting your JK? Read this!!



Click HERE to become a WranglerForum Supporting Member!
kjeeper10 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-18-2011, 09:06 PM   #44
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 147
Another reason to get a 2012. All autos come with trans coolers stock

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/201...ded-96810.html

If you are still thinking 11 over a 12, you'll regret it if you ever drive a 12. They are distinctly different. And remember the better mpg with eventually close the price gap for you.
Bronsonbull is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-18-2011, 09:54 PM   #45
The Bad Guy

WF Supporting Member
 
daggo66's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NJ exile living in Baltimore
Posts: 22,055
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronsonbull View Post
Another reason to get a 2012. All autos come with trans coolers stock

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/201...ded-96810.html

If you are still thinking 11 over a 12, you'll regret it if you ever drive a 12. They are distinctly different. And remember the better mpg with eventually close the price gap for you.
The MPG is the only thing I disagree with. The real world results are not showing much of a difference so far. Certainly not enough to close any price gap.
__________________
Tom

"I've got two things in this world, my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one."
daggo66 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-18-2011, 10:17 PM   #46
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1
New to the forum, felt compelled to chime in here........I just drove my 2011 JK (Tan) over 1590 miles averaged 23.8 mpg and was stuck in 3 hour traffic delay.....had her for 3 months. Love how she runs. Drove downhill, mostly 65 mph to destination and back up to Pennsylvania. Plenty of power, the auto trans (wife insisted on auto cause we are getting older) was the only thing holding me back. Could do 85 with no shakes etc.... bumps were no concerns on interstate, put top up normal jeep noises, great visibility, but the negative was the lack of responsiveness of auto trans had to wait for it at times but noticed if I feathered it somehow it responsed better than jumping on it...... actually liked it in a way because it kept me out of trouble. Off road, just some mud not rock the transmission was great! Did not spin in gravel or dirt, got through some nasty downhill turns, and was just a great vehicle to enjoy. If one is deciding on a 2012..... the 11 is not as bad as some make it out to be and everyone compliments us on our Sahara Tan. Hope this helps. In no way am I discouraging purchasing a 2012 but I personally will keep my 2011 do not see what that horsepower is worth unless you are a true offroader with gears and manual gearbox. For average guy doing a little off road in 10 inches of mud and a few ditches, as well as 33 inches of snow the 11 is just great........do not know the power curve on the 12's but save money on an 11 if the horsepower and trans is a real issue not a politically correct one !
mountan213 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-19-2011, 09:30 AM   #47
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 147
Quote:
Originally Posted by daggo66 View Post
The MPG is the only thing I disagree with. The real world results are not showing much of a difference so far. Certainly not enough to close any price gap.
Yeah this is something that we can debate until we are blue in the face.

I've had people with 2011s say they are getting 14mpg and some say 23mpg. I tried to do a lot of research on 07-11 mpg and my findings were that the 3.8L with auto 4sp and 3.73 gears (everything stock) gets about 15-17 in the city and 18-20 on the highway.

I've put 500 miles on my 2012 JKU auto with 3.21 gearing (similar to 2011 3.73 due to 5 speed tranny). I am getting 18-19 in the City and 21-23 on the highway.

I'm estimating real world results of 2-3 mpg better with the 3.6 vs. 3.8 (all things being as equal as possible). Which equates to $200-$300 in gas savings per year with average driving.

At the end of the day, you can't go wrong with either platform. There are always going to be people saying they get better mpg than they do and people will embellish to make the choice they made sound better. It's human nature and very easy to do sitting behind a keyboard
Bronsonbull is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-19-2011, 10:12 AM   #48
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 22
Here is my quick take.

I drove my 2009 Rubicon (auto with 6,300 miles) to test drive a new 2012.

The 2012 powertrain is simply better and not just by a little.

Offroad it will probably not make any difference, on road (where most of my time is spent) it is worth the price difference over a "left over" 2011.

Only thing holding me back is that the truck with the new Rubi has not arrived at the dealer.
Accumulator is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-19-2011, 10:51 AM   #49
Jeeper
 
JIMBOX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 9,916
Hmmm !if you're talking mileage-

My '08 JKUR has been paid for-for a very long time and it's notta DD, so

By the 42RLE (auto) mods/re-gearing/ESP kinda dead, my mileage at 60 mph has changed from 15.2 mpg(4.10) to 19.2 mpg(5.38)--even though you shouldn't drive 60mph on todays freeways, so at 70 mph, my mileage is 17.2mpg and towing my trailer, it averages to 16.2 mpg-now

Some of you are tired of hearing me say this, but-I just couldn't resist this comp with the 2012---

I had asked several times for posts on the new 5spd auto tranny and that has been done, it sounds like a FINE chunk of driving experience, but not enough for me to say ByBy to my little Rubi-

Now I'm just talking on-road(3.8L)--power/mileage/throttle response, all very satisfactory--

Off-road--much more than required-much, especially towing my trailer -

I have no complaints against the "pentastar" combo, but this same thing has been going on since EDELBROCK starting making aluminum heads for the FORD flatheads and thats been a while--

Now, I can't wait till some new owners (2012), start putting big tires on--hopefully the 3.6L will have enough "oomph", to handle them with 3.73/4.10 gears--we'll see

JIMBO
__________________
"ya gotta have class"
JIMBOX is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-19-2011, 11:09 AM   #50
..shall not be infringed!

WF Supporting Member
 
Up Hill Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Up the hill, CA Northcoast
Posts: 4,284
Just don't end up in this guys situation!

Quote:
Originally Posted by silverjeep1 View Post
Just test drove the 2012 wrangler unlimited in manual
I have a 2011 wrangler and wanted to see the difference

wow sick engine
with manual it feels like a race car!

wish i never bought the 2011
Thinking you've made the wrong $25 -$35K decision must be a real bummer....
__________________
2012 JKU Rubicon
Sahara Tan
Auto
3.73


Up Hill Bill
Up Hill Bill is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-19-2011, 11:13 AM   #51
MallCrawler

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 33,779
Quote:
Originally Posted by Up Hill Bill
Just don't end up in this guys situation!

Thinking you've made the wrong $25 -$35K decision must be a real bummer....
Nice
__________________
2007 Rubicon/Rock Krawler TR 2.5 coils/rear TB/Rancho 9000 31/32XL shocks/Teraflex monster TB/Synergy highsteer,tie rod, ball joints/Hankook MT 315-75-16 on Level 8 ZX's/MC front SB links/Rancho geo brackets & shocks/Fox ATS stabilizer/Adams front DS/Artec front armor w/ Currie upper bushings=Frankinjeep from hell.

Lifting your JK? Read this!!



Click HERE to become a WranglerForum Supporting Member!
kjeeper10 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-19-2011, 11:41 AM   #52
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 147
Quote:
Originally Posted by Up Hill Bill View Post
Just don't end up in this guys situation!



Thinking you've made the wrong $25 -$35K decision must be a real bummer....
Yeah, and what can we learn about his situation... Test drive both first before you buy.

Here's what I will bet my new jeep on. Anyone that test drives both will say they like the 3.6L better. Not that the 3.8 is bad, just that the 3.6 is better.

The only reason I could see someone picking a 2011 over a 2012 is the up front and financing cost savings or because the 3.8L has had many more years in service to work the bugs out.

My line of thinking was this... I'll have better resale value with my 2012 and in my opinion I'm getting better mpg in the 2012 which narrows the price gap... and the warranty makes me feel better about potential 2012 bugs.

Either way, just buy one
Bronsonbull is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-19-2011, 11:56 AM   #53
MallCrawler

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 33,779
I don't think the resale value is going to be any higher other than the fact it's a newer vehicle. You see any real difference going from a model year to another, for example
Tj to Jk ? Not really IMO.
__________________
2007 Rubicon/Rock Krawler TR 2.5 coils/rear TB/Rancho 9000 31/32XL shocks/Teraflex monster TB/Synergy highsteer,tie rod, ball joints/Hankook MT 315-75-16 on Level 8 ZX's/MC front SB links/Rancho geo brackets & shocks/Fox ATS stabilizer/Adams front DS/Artec front armor w/ Currie upper bushings=Frankinjeep from hell.

Lifting your JK? Read this!!



Click HERE to become a WranglerForum Supporting Member!
kjeeper10 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-19-2011, 11:57 AM   #54
The Bad Guy

WF Supporting Member
 
daggo66's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NJ exile living in Baltimore
Posts: 22,055
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I don't think the resale value is going to be any higher other than the fact it's a newer vehicle. You see any real difference going from a model year to another, for example
Tj to Jk ? Not really IMO.
__________________
Tom

"I've got two things in this world, my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one."
daggo66 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-19-2011, 12:10 PM   #55
MallCrawler

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 33,779
Quote:
Originally Posted by daggo66

__________________
2007 Rubicon/Rock Krawler TR 2.5 coils/rear TB/Rancho 9000 31/32XL shocks/Teraflex monster TB/Synergy highsteer,tie rod, ball joints/Hankook MT 315-75-16 on Level 8 ZX's/MC front SB links/Rancho geo brackets & shocks/Fox ATS stabilizer/Adams front DS/Artec front armor w/ Currie upper bushings=Frankinjeep from hell.

Lifting your JK? Read this!!



Click HERE to become a WranglerForum Supporting Member!
kjeeper10 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-19-2011, 12:54 PM   #56
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,251
I have 3 JKU's. An '08x, a "new" '10, sport and a '12 Rubi. The '12 is quieter (under load) and drivers better than the '10. Of course, a Rubi is more expensive and better fitted than a sport. My dealer (Davedennis, Dayton, OH) was $3300 off MSRP on the '12s I looked at (did not finance), so the '12, for me, was the best route to take.
3JKs1H1 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-19-2011, 02:01 PM   #57
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 147
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I don't think the resale value is going to be any higher other than the fact it's a newer vehicle. You see any real difference going from a model year to another, for example
Tj to Jk ? Not really IMO.
No that's not what I meant. 2012 models will have better resale vs. 2011 models even if nothing changed. Even if they were manufactured within 1 day of each other, the 2012s will be perceived as a year newer.
Bronsonbull is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-19-2011, 02:10 PM   #58
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 147
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
I don't think the resale value is going to be any higher other than the fact it's a newer vehicle. You see any real difference going from a model year to another, for example
Tj to Jk ? Not really IMO.

I was just talking about model year 2012 vs. 2011. But, if the 3.6L and new transmission get the reputation of being that much better then yes I believe that resale will be higher.

And yes model year changes definitely affect resale value especially if there is a major change.
Bronsonbull is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-19-2011, 02:18 PM   #59
MallCrawler

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
kjeeper10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 33,779
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronsonbull

I was just talking about model year 2012 vs. 2011. But, if the 3.6L and new transmission get the reputation of being that much better then yes I believe that resale will be higher.

And yes model year changes definitely affect resale value especially if there is a major change.
Resale value- NO, appeal- MAYBE
__________________
2007 Rubicon/Rock Krawler TR 2.5 coils/rear TB/Rancho 9000 31/32XL shocks/Teraflex monster TB/Synergy highsteer,tie rod, ball joints/Hankook MT 315-75-16 on Level 8 ZX's/MC front SB links/Rancho geo brackets & shocks/Fox ATS stabilizer/Adams front DS/Artec front armor w/ Currie upper bushings=Frankinjeep from hell.

Lifting your JK? Read this!!



Click HERE to become a WranglerForum Supporting Member!
kjeeper10 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 08-19-2011, 02:19 PM   #60
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 147
Ha ha ha. I didn't realize the whole first page of this thread was on resale value.

Daggo, while I agree with a lot that you say, you are wrong on this one.

2012s will/do have better resale than 2011s. Sometimes I think you just love to argue

Bronsonbull is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Another 2011 or 2012..... jrmcgill25 JK General Discussion Forum 43 04-19-2013 01:16 PM
Trading in 2011 Wrangler for the 2012 Wrangler silverjeep1 JK General Discussion Forum 59 09-28-2011 11:24 PM
For people considering 2011 or 2012 jku Bronsonbull JK General Discussion Forum 7 08-07-2011 07:04 AM
cant decide 2011 or 2012 Mike686 JK General Discussion Forum 6 07-08-2011 08:04 PM
Buy 2011 Wrangler Sahara or wait for 2012? Oswyn JK General Discussion Forum 23 02-05-2011 01:12 PM


logo carid shop wrangler parts carid fender flares custom wheels store avs deflectors at carid
» Rates
Get low rates on auto insurance in Canada!

» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:20 AM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC