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Old 04-08-2011, 08:53 AM   #1
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2011 Safari in Moab

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Six Jeep models get the Mopar Makeover for 2011 Safari in Moab — Autoblog

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I hate Jeep for doing this to us. Here's a Hemi Wrangler, but you can't have one. Here's a ready to rock crawler, but you can't have one. I know, they all do it. Dammit.
Jeep might be the best case for going back to the 60's era of vehicle customization from the factory. You see SOOOO many modded Jeeps out there, I'd bet there's money to be made if they let you do it at the factory and get a warranty on it. Maybe not, I don't know. I do know Jeep has the most killer concept/special vehicles.
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You see SOOOO many modded Jeeps out there, I'd bet there's money to be made if they let you do it at the factory and get a warranty on it.
That was the idea behind the Rubicon. But I know what you mean. I'd love to see another trim come out for the Wrangler that's another level up from the Rubicon that's equivalent to a current Rubicon with a 3" lift, 35's, higher gear ratio and winch-ready offroad bumpers, all factory tested and warrantied.
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We can only speculate how motivated a company can be, that already sells everything it can produce as fast as it can build it.

The nuances of possible litigation abound with each option and each added capacity beyond what already has been marketed.

One can only wonder just how far production capacity could be jiggled, to multiply parts between lifts of 2-3-4-5", wheel choices etc.

I'd love to have the chance to order my own VEX style upgrades from the factory though.
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I'd love to have the chance to order my own VEX style upgrades from the factory though.
What happened to that guy? He was fun, lol.
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There's a jeep dealer by me that will do the upgrades you want and work them into financing I know not the same as what you're saying but still convenient... Even though it is pretty expensive it's nice to build it all into your payment
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Hold on guys-you think people have trouble with warranties --NOW--?-

What do you think it would be like if jeep offered a whole bunch of mods, especially drivetrain--it ain't gonna happen !

It's a dog eat dog world, so lets make it a Do it Yourself world !!

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It's nice that they do that and will let you finance it and put a warranty on it. That's probably Jeep's reason for not doing my idea. Same thing with the Hemi conversion. If you REALLY want it, you're going to do it anyway.
Jimbo: Maybe some collaborative work on the Wranglers with some aftermarket companies, like Ford does with Roush, Saleen and Shelby. You can buy a modded Mustang through a tuner company with a Ford warranty.
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Yea, thats true, but I think you can get CERTAIN modded JK/JKUs from AEV with specified Chrysler warranties, I don't know which ones--


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It's nice that they do that and will let you finance it and put a warranty on it. That's probably Jeep's reason for not doing my idea. Same thing with the Hemi conversion. If you REALLY want it, you're going to do it anyway.
Jimbo: Maybe some collaborative work on the Wranglers with some aftermarket companies, like Ford does with Roush, Saleen and Shelby. You can buy a modded Mustang through a tuner company with a Ford warranty.
I don't care to much about the warranty, I've already fixed quite a few things and I don't take mine to the dealers-but

My jeep use/requirements is quite a bit different than most-

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Of course, this will no doubt lead to an increased number of poser Jeeps out there. The "I spent a mountain of cash on this vehicle because I want to show off how much money I have, but I'll never use it for its intended purpose" guys will be out in force.
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I gotta admit, I'd be concerned if we see 2 door, high-power factory V8s.

What happens when the rich guy who's used to driving a high-power sports car picks up a new high-powered Jeep with a dealer-installed lift and 35s, then floors it making his first left hand turn out of the dealership? That's how he drove his Vette and maybe even his Ram with similar hp numbers, right? So why not on the Jeep? . . . .
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I gotta admit, I'd be concerned if we see 2 door, high-power factory V8s.

What happens when the rich guy who's used to driving a high-power sports car picks up a new high-powered Jeep with a dealer-installed lift and 35s, then floors it making his first left hand turn out of the dealership? That's how he drove his Vette and maybe even his Ram with similar hp numbers, right? So why not on the Jeep? . . . .
You and me both, per our other discussion on the matter. Just because you're rich doesn't mean you can drive. I don't know when that notion became popular, but it sure seems to be the way it is looked at.
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Heh Heh, evidentally you haven't paid any attention to the "Hot Rod" craze, for the past 60 years-


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You and me both, per our other discussion on the matter. Just because you're rich doesn't mean you can drive. I don't know when that notion became popular, but it sure seems to be the way it is looked at.
I'm talking '32 "T" Buckets and 5-window ford coupes, with $50K worth of Chrome/ suspension/ Chevy V8/Blower/10K paint job-are they driven-sometimes a litttle !

I've also built Pantera/ GT-40 and CUDA/ Challenger-did I drivem-not much !!

Jeeps are no different-it's your personal hobbies/habits/drives !!

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Jeeps are no different-it's your personal hobbies/habits/drives !!
Yeah, but it's different when the performance enhancements come from the factory in a vehicle that's known to be both tippy and light on safety. (I'm focused here on the two door.)

Doing aftermarket V8 swaps and lifts at least takes some knowledge, patience, time, skilled installation, and money. That alone is some security against crazy drivers, plus most folks just aren't going to bother so the numbers are limited in any event.

By contrast, when it's a manufacturer, the calculus is different. It just takes money. Check the box at the dealership and you're done. The result would be a lot more Jeep monsters on the road and they'd very often be in the hands of folks who have never driven a Jeep in their lives. The unique handling characteristics of Jeeps make that a more dangerous proposition for a new Jeep owner than a new Mustang owner.

As I've said before, I suspect this is the real reason why we haven't seen factory V8s in modern Jeeps. The safety problems are just too great, particularly for the 2 door. Maybe the JK is the platform that'll do it, but maybe not. I could see it for JKUs, but the resulting outcry of only providing if for the 4 doors would be shrill.
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I think the main problem is that Chrysler put the horse before the barn-

They used a tried/true little V6, but used 2020 yr electronic technology, that even their engineers don't really know how to trouble-shoot--

Its' a lot like the Navy Sub computers Nav/Sonar/atmospher controls--mostly CARD replacement--and

Thats what happens when you take your JK/JKU to the dealer for Computer problems--REPLACEMENT !!

It may get worse, before it gets better --

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I'm talking '32 "T" Buckets and 5-window ford coupes, with $50K worth of Chrome/ suspension/ Chevy V8/Blower/10K paint job-are they driven-sometimes a litttle !

I've also built Pantera/ GT-40 and CUDA/ Challenger-did I drivem-not much !!

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You know I know something about hotrods, and I can speak at great length to my feelings about trailer queens and trophy rods. Same way I feel about any poser car. It's your money, spend it on what you want. Just don't expect me to kiss your butt because you dropped a ton of coin on a something you rarely use. ESPECIALLY if you bought it and didn't put an ounce of your own work into it. Again, not hating on anyone, just telling it like it is. You gotta earn respect.
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My My, I seem to have touched a nerve, I guess I'll have to be more carefukl at--


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You know I know something about hotrods, and I can speak at great length to my feelings about trailer queens and trophy rods. Same way I feel about any poser car. It's your money, spend it on what you want. Just don't expect me to kiss your butt because you dropped a ton of coin on a something you rarely use. ESPECIALLY if you bought it and didn't put an ounce of your own work into it. Again, not hating on anyone, just telling it like it is. You gotta earn respect.
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Not at all!! Like I said, you can buy whatever you want, but if you want credibility in my eyes, use it for it's intended purpose, build it, or at least part of it, yourself. Like with trailer queens. It's not a car unless you drive it. Otherwise, it's just an expensive trophy to your wealth. I'm just not impressed by that. I can appreciate the craftsmanship and beauty of it, but as a functional machine, it just isn't unless you use it.
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I certainly understand that, but


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Not at all!! Like I said, you can buy whatever you want, but if you want credibility in my eyes, use it for it's intended purpose, build it, or at least part of it, yourself. Like with trailer queens. It's not a car unless you drive it. Otherwise, it's just an expensive trophy to your wealth. I'm just not impressed by that. I can appreciate the craftsmanship and beauty of it, but as a functional machine, it just isn't unless you use it.
I get the impression that you're directing that at me and my jeep-

If thats true, then nothing I say means much of anything anyhow-so thats too bad !!

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I get the impression that you're directing that at me and my jeep-

If thats true, then nothing I say means much of anything anyhow-so thats too bad !!

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I don't know how you'd get that impression. I think your exploits are well documented around here. Certainly not my intention.
I'm much more direct with my insults, I assure you.
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I don't know how you'd get that impression. I think your exploits are well documented around here. Certainly not my intention.
I'm much more direct with my insults, I assure you.
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I'd love to see another trim come out for the Wrangler that's another level up from the Rubicon that's equivalent to a current Rubicon with a 3" lift, 35's, higher gear ratio and winch-ready offroad bumpers, all factory tested and warrantied.
I'm thinking of getting this

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Personally, I hoped that they would eventually offer the Hemi engine in the JK's, but I get the mindset that it might be too much power for the average new Jeep owner (especially here in Northern VA). As for factory upgrades, I think the aftermarket world is where it should stay because they are more motivated to ensure their products are high quality. When a dealership gets involved, all they care about is creating a look the customer wants so they can make more profit. We used to do this at Dodge...we'd buy the cheapest chrome rims, tires and other aftermarket parts and then mark up everything 200%. Aftermarket is a win/win.

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