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Old 02-14-2012, 11:36 PM   #1
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2012 Black Rubicon 2dr Build Up Thread.

Good Evening/Morning,

I am in the process of building up my new Rubicon. I currently have the hard top(not planning on switching, security is a concern), power kit, uconnect, and it is a manually. Currently running bone stock but the following things are on the way:

OME 2" HD Lift Kit
OME Steering Stabilizer
WARN 9.5CTI 12 VOLT WINCH
WARN ELITE FRONT JK BUMPER W/GUARD

Next on the list will be:

Tire carrier/Rear Bumper(Any recommendations? looking for something to mount cb antenna and possibly a light bar with Gerry cans)
15-16" wheels(Not sure if I want beadlock or not)
And the big question to go is 33 or 35 inch tires(OH snap debate time)

I have been following the forum for some time prior to joining but the 35 inch tire question is something with the OME HD kit that seems to be a bit of a mysterious. I see some reports of it working, however, I want to not fall into the pitfall of being unhappy with the rub/issues that stem from the tire size. So I am definitely open to hearing some suggestions

Also, lighting at some point, but that is going to be closer to summer time prior to me getting it setup. I am also looking for suggestions in some shops in the Bay Area/Silicon Valley that are recommended other than 4wp.

Thanks for all the advice and suggestions in advance.

P.S. If you are in the bay area and interested in some wheeling please PM me.

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I have been following the forum for some time prior to joining but the 35 inch tire question is something with the OME HD kit that seems to be a bit of a mysterious. I see some reports of it working, however, I want to not fall into the pitfall of being unhappy with the rub/issues that stem from the tire size. So I am definitely open to hearing some suggestions
You should be good on the rub. Don't know what mystery you're referring to with the OME, but 2" is 2". You might need some flat fenders.

As for the rest of the issues with 35's, your mileage will take a nosedive. And, if you're unfortunate enough to have the feeble 3.21 gears, you'll have trouble using high gear on the freeway, passing slower traffic and climbing hills.

Other than that, sounds like you got it goin on.

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Old 02-14-2012, 11:56 PM   #3
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You should be good on the rub. Don't know what mystery you're referring to with the OME, but 2" is 2". You might need some flat fenders.

As for the rest of the issues with 35's, your mileage will take a nosedive. And, if you're unfortunate enough to have the feeble 3.21 gears, you'll have trouble using high gear on the freeway, passing slower traffic and climbing hills.

Other than that, sounds like you got it goin on.

The mystery I was referring to is as the OME 2" is supposed to be a 2", but with Heavy Duty kit you can get up to a 3-3.5" depending on how much lift there is a possibility of some DS changes if i recall. I currently have the 4.10 gears on the Rubicon. Thanks for the response.
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Old 02-15-2012, 12:47 AM   #4
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The mystery I was referring to is as the OME 2" is supposed to be a 2", but with Heavy Duty kit you can get up to a 3-3.5" depending on how much lift there is a possibility of some DS changes if i recall. I currently have the 4.10 gears on the Rubicon. Thanks for the response.
Okay.

The problem with that would be your front ds being at too high an angle, and eventually failing because of that. With the shorter wheelbase of the 2-dr, you should also be concerned with the rear ds, though that's not an immediate consideration, IMO.

The '12's have a unique problem with the front ds hitting the exhaust with the addition of shocks of a certain length, basically anything 27.5" or more. Increases the downward travel, and causes problems if you disconnect your swaybars offroad.

The other problem, not '12-specific, is the angle of the ds. That's where you'll run into problems with a lift of the height you're describing. Obviously, the angle issue is less immediate than the impact issue.

You can get your lift and probably be fine for awhile. I say "probably" because I've read about the front ds failing after a few months, and not for years, if at all.

Like anything with your Jeep, up to you.

For what it's worth, I run 35" tires with a 3" Full Traction lift, and have a 1310 JE Reel front driveshaft.
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Also, now that I think about it, once you get your lift installed, drive it for awhile.

Don't know if it comes with adj ca's, but if it doesn't, and your Jeep's steering seems twitchy on the highway afterwards, you'll probably wanna get some to set your caster.
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Thanks kbwwolf. I will definitely do some riding and wheeling once the lift is installed. I will update this thread with pics and such soon as the build up is occurring.
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You should be good on the rub. Don't know what mystery you're referring to with the OME, but 2" is 2". You might need some flat fenders.

As for the rest of the issues with 35's, your mileage will take a nosedive. And, if you're unfortunate enough to have the feeble 3.21 gears, you'll have trouble using high gear on the freeway, passing slower traffic and climbing hills.

Other than that, sounds like you got it goin on.
Interesting choice of adjective is "feeble", my '12 on the trail or the road is in no way feeble. But my '11 Rubicon on the highway with a headwind comes to mind though.
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So got the winch and bumper installed today. See pics below:


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By spacedhost at 2012-02-23

Sorry image quality is not superb, I will take some more in the light tomorrow. Also wanted to point out the "complaints" some people had about the Warn Elite series bumper were the aesthetics with the fairlead and mount. For whatever reason Warn was using offset mounts and it looked not so hot in the stock photos. But in the kit is multiple mounts including a center mount which I dug and was installed. Let me know what you guys/gals think. Lift kit will be here Monday, got my steering stabilizer in.

Still in the air:

Rear bumper/Tire Carrier (Jeep Fest Saturday, will see what i find there)
Wheels/Tires
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I have the same Jeep. Yours is looking great. Post what you find out about the tire carrier.
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I would suggest and OR Fab tire carrier. They are independent from the rear bumper and have options for Jerry Cans or rotopax cans. They also have multiple mounting holes for hi lift, cb antenna and a rear ward facing light if you feel so inclined. As for aux lighting I would suggest LED and more specifically Rigid Industries. I don't think you'll beat LED. Instant "on", no flicker, no ballast to worry about, and the smallest amp draw.

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So got the winch and bumper installed today. See pics below:


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By spacedhost at 2012-02-23

Sorry image quality is not superb, I will take some more in the light tomorrow. Also wanted to point out the "complaints" some people had about the Warn Elite series bumper were the aesthetics with the fairlead and mount. For whatever reason Warn was using offset mounts and it looked not so hot in the stock photos. But in the kit is multiple mounts including a center mount which I dug and was installed. Let me know what you guys/gals think. Lift kit will be here Monday, got my steering stabilizer in.

Still in the air:

Rear bumper/Tire Carrier (Jeep Fest Saturday, will see what i find there)
Wheels/Tires
Extra lighting
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I would suggest and OR Fab tire carrier. They are independent from the rear bumper and have options for Jerry Cans or rotopax cans. They also have multiple mounting holes for hi lift, cb antenna and a rear ward facing light if you feel so inclined. As for aux lighting I would suggest LED and more specifically Rigid Industries. I don't think you'll beat LED. Instant "on", no flicker, no ballast to worry about, and the smallest amp draw.

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I'll second the OR-FAB and the Rigid Duallys. Good stuff.

If you decide to go with the Duallys, make sure you choose the right kind for your application. Driving lights are for distance, while fogs give a much larger light spread. You probably don't wanna mount fogs to your windshield, since you'll get a lot of glare off the hood.
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Lift goes on in the morning...... I will post some pics once I get it put on. Also still debating on the rear bumper/tire carrier. I really like the Warn rock crawler but i am also considering the OR-FAB and a Garvin Industries.

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Warn Industries - Mounting Systems & Bumpers: Rock Crawler Rear Bumper

And lastly looking at Tires/Wheels still. Kind of up in the air about 33 or 35's. I know it has been covered plenty in this forum and others. I outweighing the pros and cons of each.
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So I have been pretty slammed lately with work and such but I did get a lot done with regards to the Jeep. So first things first:

2.5" of lift gained all around from the OME HD lift. I added the OME Steering Stabilizer as well. Also added was the Warn Rock Crawler rear bumper + tire carrier. A custom cage for jerry cans and other supplies is being fabbed as we speak( will post pics of the cage once the base is complete and after finishing). I have also gotten the wheels and tires done as well. Went with 35" Mickey Tompson Baja Claw TTC's(35x12.50x15) on Pacer 164b(15x8 with 4.5" of Backspacing). So far no rubbing issues, but planning a trip to test out wheeling on Thursday to Hollister Hills, CA.

I would like to thank everyone on the forum and all the other posts that helped in making my decisions on what parts to go with. But as with anything Jeep it is far from over. I have an SPOD, PIAA lights, Dually lights, cb, antenna, and armor, skids, and other mods left coming in mail or on the schedule to be ready for spending most of the summer on the trails of California, Oregon, and Washington. Is anyone else doing the Jeep Jamboree in August(9th -12th) on the Rubicon Trail this year?

I am resizing pics and having a hell of a time with my camera and phone, pics should be up in just a few minutes.
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PICTURES. Sorry I have been working nights so most of the pics are at night. I will get out this midweek to Hollister and post some daytime pics for everyone. Camera is shot so had to use phone, new camera will be in Tuesday! Enjoy:






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Here is a picture post lift but pre new tires and wheels:




Here is a pic of the rear bumper:



More to come later this morning when I get off work. And thanks CL, sold my wheels and tires off my Rubicon to a family from Nevada who drove into the Bay Area.
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She's all grown up

Love those tires. How much does the baja 35x15 weigh?

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Love those tires. How much does the baja 35x15 weigh?
Thanks,

67 pounds if I recall is the tire weight.
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Thanks,

67 pounds if I recall is the tire weight.
Not to bad for a 35 I believe. Those are sweet. Would of considered those if I did not find a set already.

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Yeah you got a pretty good deal off of CL.
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I wish I could have gotten a good deal on CL. But I bought brand new and it was not that bad for the 35x12.50x15"s. Now had I went originally with what was being pushed on me it would have been almost double the price lol.
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I wish I could have gotten a good deal on CL. But I bought brand new and it was not that bad for the 35x12.50x15"s. Now had I went originally with what was being pushed on me it would have been almost double the price lol.
oops I read you wrong. Lol
I did get pretty darn lucky. Never happens trust me

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