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Old 10-27-2012, 07:30 AM   #61
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I have found out that slamming them is a waste of time as the doors or so light it does no good. Just grab the handle and give a nice FIRM push. I can close mine when doors are only 3-4 inches open if you PUSH it shut and follow through.
This is what I usually do...

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What about when another door or window is open? Then you slam your door--not good. The thing really slams hard then... Do you guys ever worry about busting a window or chipping some paint?

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I just got my Sahara back form the dealer yesterday, they had it for 3 weeks to stop water leaks. Now the doors are a lot harder to close than before. The door is closed so tight it does not match up with the side of the jeep now. They replaced all the seals and still leaked so I think they tightened up the door latches to hold even more pressure on the door seals. I am going back up this morning to see them again.
By the way, cracking the window's does nothing, it is not a "air tight" thing it is simply a compacting of the door seals to get them not to leak. Jeep can be really proud of this cluster _ _ _ _ !
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I think its the weight of the door. It's easier to close when you get out and push with some weight rather than inside and pulling it shut. I dont have to slam the door from the outside I just have to put some weight on it. From inside I have to slam it.
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I think its the weight of the door. It's easier to close when you get out and push with some weight rather than inside and pulling it shut. I dont have to slam the door from the outside I just have to put some weight on it. From inside I have to slam it.
From inside roll the window down a bit and it will close nicely. Just means the seals are good and tight.
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Old 11-24-2012, 08:02 AM   #66
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From inside roll the window down a bit and it will close nicely. Just means the seals are good and tight.
Havent tried that yet but seems like a pain in the ass with power windows. I'd have to put the key in the ignition first and start it to power the window then close the door. Seems counterintuitive and way to much work just to close a door.
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Old 11-24-2012, 08:16 AM   #67
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er... the back door has a vent in it... I've never noticed a difference between top on and top off.

my passenger door needs some extra oomph to close though. It's probably alignment. the door hinges on both sides adjust infinitely, and between lining the two pins up and getting it at both the right height and the right "depth", I'm surprised they get them close enough to close at all
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Old 11-24-2012, 08:25 AM   #68
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Yes, they have a couple of door seals. They break in nicely and don't leak, no noise either!
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Old 11-24-2012, 08:29 AM   #69
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My '13 JK requires a little "push" when you shut the doors, but seal up nice and tight!
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My '13 JK requires a little "push" when you shut the doors, but seal up nice and tight!
Lol same here. *push*
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Went back this morning and the service manager came out and said it was not right, he could not close them also. When the doors are shut the back of the doors are 3/16" to a 1/4" in past the body. He gave me a 2012 compass to drive and I was on my way..........
Most people know the differance between a push and having to slam something. When I got into the compass the door just shut like a normal car with little effort. One should not have to " think about closing a auto door" and how to do it. A thought had to go into every closing or it did not work and close tight. At least the service manager agreed that it isn't right.
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Went back this morning and the service manager came out and said it was not right, he could not close them also. When the doors are shut the back of the doors are 3/16" to a 1/4" in past the body. He gave me a 2012 compass to drive and I was on my way..........
Hows the 4 cylinder? Lol
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I runs good for the size ,my 2011 jk seems to lag quite a bit right before it down shifts. On a hill I can't just give it a bit more gas to go up and over , it has to down shift even at highway speeds. Are the 2012 engines like this also?
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I runs good for the size ,my 2011 jk seems to lag quite a bit right before it down shifts. On a hill I can't just give it a bit more gas to go up and over , it has to down shift even at highway speeds. Are the 2012 engines like this also?
Im pretty sure its the same exact setup. No changes
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I runs good for the size ,my 2011 jk seems to lag quite a bit right before it down shifts. On a hill I can't just give it a bit more gas to go up and over , it has to down shift even at highway speeds. Are the 2012 engines like this also?
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Im pretty sure its the same exact setup. No changes
No, the 2012's have have the 3.6 and the NAG1/WA580 5 speed tranny. The gearing is way different...even with 3.21's on the auto, the gearing is way more aggressive compared to the 4 speed 42RLE.
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No, the 2012's have have the 3.6 and the NAG1/WA580 5 speed tranny. The gearing is way different...even with 3.21's on the auto, the gearing is way more aggressive compared to the 4 speed 42RLE.
Oh woops i misread. I thought he was talking about the difference between the 2011 compass and 2012 compass. My bad. Late night But yea all new drivetrain starting in 2012
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No, the 2012's have have the 3.6 and the NAG1/WA580 5 speed tranny. The gearing is way different...even with 3.21's on the auto, the gearing is way more aggressive compared to the 4 speed 42RLE.
I have the 4.10's in mine. The auto tranny is geared very low. When you lift off the gas it's like deploying a parachute. Throw it into nuetral and you can feel the difference. It's coasts so much easier in nuetral. Throw it back into drive and it's like your driving thru mud.
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I have 3.21 in mine and while not as bad as what you describe. I notice a bit of drag when I'm coasting down hill
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Im glad this was posted because I was debating on starting a new thread asking if other owners had the same issue with their 2013 JKU

NOW I KNOW --were all in the same boat...

Yeah I told my wife and daughter not to slam the door but rather just push with a slight force ..
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Im glad this was posted because I was debating on starting a new thread asking if other owners had the same issue with their 2013 JKU

NOW I KNOW --were all in the same boat...

Yeah I told my wife and daughter not to slam the door but rather just push with a slight force ..
What kind of problems have you had?
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UPDATE AGAIN: The dealer called today and asked me to come and see what I think, he stated that the tech is afraid to loosen the door latchs to much as they might start to leak again, it is not as tight as it was, but still takes a conses effort to close them. I guess I will see how it goes with it and see if the leaks are ended. I have it sitting outside my home as it is suppose to rain. He stated that there has been a real problem with them for years now and alls they can do is try thier best to correct the problem. I hope it is fixed and the wife and I will have to get use to closing the doors. When you open the doors from inside they "pop" open so there is quite a bite of pressure on the door latchs. We will see in time I guess.
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Man, I gotta say it... If you guys want perfection, get a BMW. It's a Jeep, dude!
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I will try to push in. My front passenger door is hard to shut.
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UPDATE AGAIN: The dealer called today and asked me to come and see what I think, he stated that the tech is afraid to loosen the door latchs to much as they might start to leak again, it is not as tight as it was, but still takes a conses effort to close them. I guess I will see how it goes with it and see if the leaks are ended. I have it sitting outside my home as it is suppose to rain. He stated that there has been a real problem with them for years now and alls they can do is try thier best to correct the problem. I hope it is fixed and the wife and I will have to get use to closing the doors. When you open the doors from inside they "pop" open so there is quite a bite of pressure on the door latchs. We will see in time I guess.
I'm surprised the dealer told you that. Jeep wranglers have always pretty much needed you to semi slam the door to close them. It's by design.

While they supposedly get "easier to close" over time I suspect it's really just the owner getting used to it.

All 5 of my wranglers have been the same as well as any of my friends. It's just how the doors close. It kind of boggles my mind that it seems to new owners like something is wrong. My reaction to it on my first one was along the lines of just making sure to remind passengers to slam the door on their way out bc I didn't want leaky leaky bc they were being gentle with my jeep.
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I'm surprised the dealer told you that. Jeep wranglers have always pretty much needed you to semi slam the door to close them. It's by design.

While they supposedly get "easier to close" over time I suspect it's really just the owner getting used to it.

All 5 of my wranglers have been the same as well as any of my friends. It's just how the doors close. It kind of boggles my mind that it seems to new owners like something is wrong. My reaction to it on my first one was along the lines of just making sure to remind passengers to slam the door on their way out bc I didn't want leaky leaky bc they were being gentle with my jeep.
All of my doors need a firm slam...but my front passenger door does not close like the others. It almost "double latches".
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Man, I gotta say it... If you guys want perfection, get a BMW. It's a Jeep, dude!
BMWs are anything BUT perfect. I'd trust a Kia over a BMW.
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All of my doors need a firm slam...but my front passenger door does not close like the others. It almost "double latches".
after i took off my doors, i noticed the front passenger door was harder to close. if you just leave it to swing, it also rests further away from the opening than the others. eh, doesn't leak so i'm happy.

Just wait until all your passengers close their doors before you shut yours, otherwise people get used to slamming them and then you have to yell at them for slamming the door with the hard top off or the soft top on. can't win either way.
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I don't slam. I close with a firm push
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Funny posts. Glad it's not just me. And I certainly wasn't complaining. Just wanted some other opinions. Now my 9 year old complains about them, but he complains about everything.

X2 on that lol my son is 7 but same story .
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Just wait until all your passengers close their doors before you shut yours.
X2 on this. The cab is sealed up so tight that the last door always takes the most 'urging'.

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