I'm sorry this will be a short beginning today to a long story I'm sure. Bear with me. I have been trying to find the time to post for two weeks about it already.
This started with a visit to a friend who works at a dealer. We talk time to time and he knows I'm always on the lookout for upcoming issues. He ends up doing a lot of the engine work, so he sees a lot of stuff.
He brought up that lately he been noticing more head work again for the 3.6 engines. Not just Jeep, but in other models too, so there is that..
He was sent a replacement head for a Dodge 3.6 recently, and it came in as a reman, something he hasn't seen before. The head numbers were older on the 'new' head. I think I may have even taken photos of it, but I'll have to look when I have more time.
Bigger issue to note though is he has been watching head jobs a bit and says the newer heads, the AB and even some AC heads, are starting to show up now. These were supposed to be the good heads, at least the AC ones were.
They have been showing up for work between 70-90k miles now too, so those that don't drive as much won't see these issues for possible years, well beyond what a warranty covers now. In Oklahoma we tend to drive a lot, so I have a feeling that's why we're seeing it more, the OKC metro is 60 miles north Edmond to south Norman, and I've been known to drive a 100 miles in a day just running around town (my 2013 has 64k).
This issue may as well include the 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016 years too, since there currently isn't a guaranteed fix, and the AC heads are showing up time to time, it can't be ruled out that the issue that used to show up in 2012 heads at 8k or 12k - won't show up now in the 2013+ heads at 70k or 90k.
The difference right now is Jeep knows and acknowledged the issue is the early heads, extending the warranty out in writing - they haven't done this yet for the newer ones, and the 2016 model lowered the factory warranty mileage and time covered as well. I expect there will be cost increases in the Mopar extended warranties to follow as well since that will be the next thing to cover it, making this a good time to buy one if you are going to hold onto your Jeep.
This is all I have for now.
This started with a visit to a friend who works at a dealer. We talk time to time and he knows I'm always on the lookout for upcoming issues. He ends up doing a lot of the engine work, so he sees a lot of stuff.
He brought up that lately he been noticing more head work again for the 3.6 engines. Not just Jeep, but in other models too, so there is that..
He was sent a replacement head for a Dodge 3.6 recently, and it came in as a reman, something he hasn't seen before. The head numbers were older on the 'new' head. I think I may have even taken photos of it, but I'll have to look when I have more time.
Bigger issue to note though is he has been watching head jobs a bit and says the newer heads, the AB and even some AC heads, are starting to show up now. These were supposed to be the good heads, at least the AC ones were.
They have been showing up for work between 70-90k miles now too, so those that don't drive as much won't see these issues for possible years, well beyond what a warranty covers now. In Oklahoma we tend to drive a lot, so I have a feeling that's why we're seeing it more, the OKC metro is 60 miles north Edmond to south Norman, and I've been known to drive a 100 miles in a day just running around town (my 2013 has 64k).
This issue may as well include the 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016 years too, since there currently isn't a guaranteed fix, and the AC heads are showing up time to time, it can't be ruled out that the issue that used to show up in 2012 heads at 8k or 12k - won't show up now in the 2013+ heads at 70k or 90k.
The difference right now is Jeep knows and acknowledged the issue is the early heads, extending the warranty out in writing - they haven't done this yet for the newer ones, and the 2016 model lowered the factory warranty mileage and time covered as well. I expect there will be cost increases in the Mopar extended warranties to follow as well since that will be the next thing to cover it, making this a good time to buy one if you are going to hold onto your Jeep.
This is all I have for now.