Not that it is a big deal, but in s. cali we had some rain. So, going to work, i hit a field of mud. I have the stock 16 inch wheels and tires. It was fun, like driving on ice but dirtier. Then, Sunday, around 1800 went to the san bernardino mtns to play in the snow with the Dog! Cars with chains were spinning out, because of the ice, both front and rear wheel drive. Of course, this is california so chains are needed unless your 4wh drive. I stayed in 2 wh the whole time, it was boring!!... No need for 4 wheel drive lol. I went off road a bit now in green valley, still in 2 wheel drive. It has too much traction to even be fun!! Any one else with the same issues!!!