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Old 01-18-2012, 05:01 PM   #1
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2012 LED head lights

just bought a 2012 unlimited, anyone know where I can get LED headlights for my jeep at good pricing.

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just bought a 2012 unlimited, anyone know where I can get LED headlights for my jeep at good pricing.
LED headlights and "good pricing" are mutually exclusive terms, I'm afraid. You basically have two choices: The Truck Lite LED's, or the JW Speakers. Hilldweller (the resident light expert) touts the JW Speakers...although Truck Lite has just released a new iteration of their version that he has yet to test.

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Here are a few links:

New Truck Lite LED Headlights at SEMA!!!
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And a test series that Hilldweller did on another forum:

Read THIS THREAD for info on the JW Speakers, Truck-Lites, IPFs, Deltas, Hellas, & Cibies.
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think I'll wait for the new version to come out. hopefully soon
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think I'll wait for the new version to come out. hopefully soon
They aren't cheap. I've got the Truck Lites, for their durability more than any other reason, but iirc mine were around $500 for the pair (they're sold individually) off Amazon, plus $26 (I think) for the harnesses from 4wd.com.

Hilldweller will abuse me for this, but IMO they're a marked improvement over the votive candles that come stock on the Wrangler.

Pretty sure HD had the JW Speakers in his rig.
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think I'll wait for the new version to come out. hopefully soon
I had heard January or February, but then I emailed Truck-lite and they said:

"We do not have a firm date for release on the Phase 7's yet, but tentatively we are looking at sometime in February."

So I'm guessing March or April, but I hope they prove me wrong.

The JW Speakers are excellent, but I wanted a plug and play light.
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If you plug and play the Trucklites they blink...

Ray could build you a dongle with a capacitor in it; no need for a full harness with LEDs since they'll get to full brightness with less than 12 volts.
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If you plug and play the Trucklites they blink...

Ray could build you a dongle with a capacitor in it; no need for a full harness with LEDs since they'll get to full brightness with less than 12 volts.
Only place the blinking has been noticeable (at least to my naked eye), is when I'm close to my garage door or another flat surface.

That said, I'd be interested in this thing you call a "dongle" from this entity you call "Ray" simply to banish any and all tendency to blink, visible or not.

So Bill: Who is Ray and how can get my hands on...a...dongle?
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Only place the blinking has been noticeable (at least to my naked eye), is when I'm close to my garage door or another flat surface.

That said, I'd be interested in this thing you call a "dongle" from this entity you call "Ray" simply to banish any and all tendency to blink, visible or not.

So Bill: Who is Ray and how can get my hands on...a...dongle?
If you're being serious (it's hard to tell w/ you) Ray is the "harness guy" over at RallyLights.

I've spoken w/ him before, real nice guy.

EDIT: Geez, I'm starting to sound like I know what I'm talking about. Run away!
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Who is Ray and how can get my hands on...a...dongle?
Call Ray at 610-944-3233.

Susquehanna MotorSports - High Performance Vehicle Lighting and Competition Accessories

The "dongle" will be a short harness with a diode to smooth out the voltage modulations. Just explain your lights and needs.
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Did you give him a call today? Hope he didn't cuss much when you mentioned my name.
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If you're being serious (it's hard to tell w/ you) Ray is the "harness guy" over at RallyLights.
I've spoken w/ him before, real nice guy.
EDIT: Geez, I'm starting to sound like I know what I'm talking about. Run away!
I'm always serious. In fact, some peeps call me BB, which is short for Bill Belichick, cuz I'm so humorless. I'm not making that crap up.

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Call Ray at 610-944-3233.
Susquehanna MotorSports - High Performance Vehicle Lighting and Competition Accessories
The "dongle" will be a short harness with a diode to smooth out the voltage modulations. Just explain your lights and needs.
Thanks for the info, Karl. I'll be hitting Ray up for a pair of his fabled "dongles" soon.
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Did you give him a call today? Hope he didn't cuss much when you mentioned my name.
Thanks Brian. Same harness ordered and Ray states he is thinking of adding it as a standard offering. After all that, I gave him the name but it didn't seem to mater. He states he's waiting for a connector shipment being sent 2 day delivery and then he intends to bang a bunch of harnesses out. He gave me a two week window. Thanks again

I have the Cibies and bulbs ordered too and likely will go with IPF 900 drivers when the AEV conversion happens and will already have the harness in place.
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Thanks Brian. Same harness ordered and Ray states he is thinking of adding it as a standard offering. After all that, I gave him the name but it didn't seem to mater. He states he's waiting for a connector shipment being sent 2 day delivery and then he intends to bang a bunch of harnesses out. He gave me a two week window. Thanks again

I have the Cibies and bulbs ordered too and likely will go with IPF 900 drivers when the AEV conversion happens and will already have the harness in place.
Np Karl.

Yeah, he said the same to me....about 2 weeks behind....I need to get some more mods on order. I'm going through withdrawals.
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I have the JW Speakers from Josh at the Chrome shop and harness from rally lights. After much trouble shooting they are back and shinning after drowning them. I love them, and the look hella cool
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If you plug and play the Trucklites they blink...

Ray could build you a dongle with a capacitor in it; no need for a full harness with LEDs since they'll get to full brightness with less than 12 volts.
I contacted Daniel Stern to get a harness when I thought I was going to go with the JW's. I bought it from him and when it arrived it had been shipped from rallylights, which I thought was weird.

BTW, I meant plug and play as in "no need to mess around with the airbag sensor and shaving down the plastic ring."
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Truck Lites is working on yet another revision of the 7" round LED headlamps, dubbed the Phase 7. It will use two high-powered LEDs -- one for high beam, the other for low -- in a reflector set up with a fluted polycarbonate lens like traditional headlamps. Should be different than all their others. Hopefully we can get some photometry data!!
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I contacted Daniel Stern to get a harness when I thought I was going to go with the JW's. I bought it from him and when it arrived it had been shipped from rallylights, which I thought was weird.

BTW, I meant plug and play as in "no need to mess around with the airbag sensor and shaving down the plastic ring."
Daniel gets his harnesses from Ray over at Susquehanna MotorSports / RallyLights.com.
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Daniel gets his harnesses from Ray over at Susquehanna MotorSports / RallyLights.com.
Ahh, I didn't know that. Otherwise, I would've just ordered from rallylights directly.

Thanks!
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truck lite phase 7

Anyone know when these head lights will be out, and if already where can I get them.
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I had heard January or February, but then I emailed Truck-lite and they said:

"We do not have a firm date for release on the Phase 7's yet, but tentatively we are looking at sometime in February."

So I'm guessing March or April, but I hope they prove me wrong.

The JW Speakers are excellent, but I wanted a plug and play light.
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Anyone know when these head lights will be out, and if already where can I get them.
See Verdugan's post that I quoted.
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Reinvigorating this thread, because I'm curious if anyone has reviewed the Gen 2s yet.

I haven't found one by Hilldweller or anyone else (even in Hilldweller's awesome review thread)
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Over on another forum that deals with jk's there is a guy that found the new version through napa and placed an order for the new version trucklites. Don't know if they actually had them in stock though. Part number was right.
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i would really like to know if someone can come up with a good install fix on the 2012 for the air bag sensor with the JW Speaker LEDs. i really want these but don't want to mess with altering the sensor or buying an extra set of stock housings to make them fit.
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Daniel gets his harnesses from Ray over at Susquehanna MotorSports / RallyLights.com.
The above is true, but there's a difference.

I talked to Stern a couple of weeks ago. He confirmed that Ray builds his harnesses.

Stern said that the difference between a Stern harness and a Rallylights harness is that Ray puts Hella relays in the Rallylights gear, but Stern specifies Bosch relays.

Stern said the Hella relays are Chinese crap (my word) and the Bosch relays are made in Europe to much higher standards.

I ordered the Cibie H4s from Stern and the harness from Rallylights (yay for Chinese crap!) on Jan. 27. Had the harness 4 days later. Still waiting on the stuff from Stern. But I digress...
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Reinvigorating this thread, because I'm curious if anyone has reviewed the Gen 2s yet.

I haven't found one by Hilldweller or anyone else (even in Hilldweller's awesome review thread)
I emailed Jerry again today and asked for a set ---- nope.




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i would really like to know if someone can come up with a good install fix on the 2012 for the air bag sensor with the JW Speaker LEDs. i really want these but don't want to mess with altering the sensor or buying an extra set of stock housings to make them fit.
Buy another OE bucket assembly and longer screws. Cut the outer ring from the assembly, trim it to fit around the headlight coconuts, and mount it as a shim. Works great.
I think somebody did a write-up on JeepForum. Either on my big thread or on the LED headlight thread.
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Buy another OE bucket assembly and longer screws. Cut the outer ring from the assembly, trim it to fit around the headlight coconuts, and mount it as a shim. Works great.
I think somebody did a write-up on JeepForum. Either on my big thread or on the LED headlight thread.
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I was going to do that until I heard about Truck Lite's next generation lights. I decided to wait and see how much they had improved their lights.

Lower-ish cost is def. nice, but the plug and play aspect is more of an issue for me.
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I emailed Jerry again today and asked for a set ---- nope.


I wonder if they're not ready yet?
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I wonder if they're not ready yet?
Jerry says it's budget.

In my reviews of their other two products, I was, ummm, harshly honest... I hope that's not why they're holding back. I hope the new product is a good headlight.
But hoping doesn't make it happen or else the previous generation would still be on my old JK.

I really like LEDs and I really like Trucklite. I think some of their products are incredible. Just not the headlights I've used so far.
I'd be tempted to buy a new JK if they sent me a new set and they worked well...
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We should all chip in for Hilldweller to test them and then raffle them off when he's done to whoever chipped in.

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