LED headlights and "good pricing" are mutually exclusive terms, I'm afraid. You basically have two choices: The Truck Lite LED's, or the JW Speakers. Hilldweller (the resident light expert) touts the JW Speakers...although Truck Lite has just released a new iteration of their version that he has yet to test.
They aren't cheap. I've got the Truck Lites, for their durability more than any other reason, but iirc mine were around $500 for the pair (they're sold individually) off Amazon, plus $26 (I think) for the harnesses from 4wd.com.
Hilldweller will abuse me for this, but IMO they're a marked improvement over the votive candles that come stock on the Wrangler.
Ray could build you a dongle with a capacitor in it; no need for a full harness with LEDs since they'll get to full brightness with less than 12 volts.
Only place the blinking has been noticeable (at least to my naked eye), is when I'm close to my garage door or another flat surface.
That said, I'd be interested in this thing you call a "dongle" from this entity you call "Ray" simply to banish any and all tendency to blink, visible or not.
So Bill: Who is Ray and how can get my hands on...a...dongle?
I have the JW Speakers from Josh at the Chrome shop and harness from rally lights. After much trouble shooting they are back and shinning after drowning them. I love them, and the look hella cool
Truck Lites is working on yet another revision of the 7" round LED headlamps, dubbed the Phase 7. It will use two high-powered LEDs -- one for high beam, the other for low -- in a reflector set up with a fluted polycarbonate lens like traditional headlamps. Should be different than all their others. Hopefully we can get some photometry data!!
i would really like to know if someone can come up with a good install fix on the 2012 for the air bag sensor with the JW Speaker LEDs. i really want these but don't want to mess with altering the sensor or buying an extra set of stock housings to make them fit.
Buy another OE bucket assembly and longer screws. Cut the outer ring from the assembly, trim it to fit around the headlight coconuts, and mount it as a shim. Works great.
I think somebody did a write-up on JeepForum. Either on my big thread or on the LED headlight thread.
Over on another forum that deals with jk's there is a guy that found the new version through napa and placed an order for the new version trucklites. Don't know if they actually had them in stock though. Part number was right.
i would really like to know if someone can come up with a good install fix on the 2012 for the air bag sensor with the JW Speaker LEDs. i really want these but don't want to mess with altering the sensor or buying an extra set of stock housings to make them fit.
That's a great idea. I think we can all agree that Hilldweller does an incredible job with the lighting reviews and I certainly consider his advice a prerequisite when considering lighting choices. With that said I'm in for $10.
Bill, I'm serious. Just set up a paypal account and I'll send you the money. You can PM your info if you don't want to post it in the thread. I'll trust you to pick the winner however you want, I'm not concerned about that. I just want to get your unbiased opinion of the lights, that alone is worth the $10. :thumb:
If you can figure a way to make it happen, then I'm in. Hilldweller's info is invaluable and purchases have definitely been influenced by his helpful knowledge. Currently I'm trying to decide on whether to fork out the $ for LED lights and the JW Speaker seems to be where I'm leaning.
It's definitely worth $10 or $20 to have the info to make a correct decision on lighting that will cost $800 - $1000.
I'd throw in $10 or $20 just to see the testing results and get the info out to the community. I second the PayPal idea for sending in the donations ... it's easy and I'm lazy. :whistling:
I know it won't have hd's lux readings and such but two members at jk forum have the lights in hand or at the store waiting to be picked up. Both napa purchases. Pics Should be coming very soon of the phase 7 TL.
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Subscribed. I too would like to know about this as well. We all know that the stock headlights suck. Many times I find myself turning the switch just to see if they're on.
Question: if these lights don't pass Hilldweller's test, what would you guys get? What's the absolute best lights one can buy money being not an option?
Question: if these lights don't pass Hilldweller's test, what would you guys get? What's the absolute best lights one can buy money being not an option?
Pretty much everybody agrees that the best LED lights are the JW Speakers. They are pricey, but you said money wasn't an issue.
The reason (aside from cost) why a lot of people are not installing the JW Speakers is that they're not plug and play. In 2011's and before, you had to grind down the plastic housing *and* move the airbag sensor.
Apparently in the 2012's you can't move the airbag sensor anymore, so you have to do a double insert. See links above for an example. I guess this approach also works for the 2011's.
If the Truck Lites match or are pretty close to the performance of the JW Speakers, they'll be a hit.
Pretty much everybody agrees that the best LED lights are the JW Speakers. They are pricey, but you said money wasn't an issue.
The reason (aside from cost) why a lot of people are not installing the JW Speakers is that they're not plug and play. In 2011's and before, you had to grind down the plastic housing *and* move the airbag sensor.
Apparently in the 2012's you can't move the airbag sensor anymore, so you have to do a double insert. See links above for an example. I guess this approach also works for the 2011's.
If the Truck Lites match or are pretty close to the performance of the JW Speakers, they'll be a hit.
I see. I'm a plug and play kind of guy. I don't like (or feel comfortable) cutting my 5 month old Jeep. I have my eye on another kit by a company called DDM. My cousin had the 55W set on his VW GTi and let me tell you those things were like 2 suns infront of his car. I don't think they use LED bulbs though but I really liked the light output.
Seems truck lite is posting directly to another jeep forum with pics of lights in use. Wish we could confirm this photo they posted. My factory 2012 headlights don't look nearly as yellow or dim as the ones depicted in their comparison. I am still waiting for an objective review than a photoshopped image from the manufacture.
Seems truck lite is posting directly to another jeep forum with pics of lights in use. Wish we could confirm this photo they posted. My factory 2012 headlights don't look nearly as yellow or dim as the ones depicted in their comparison. I am still waiting for an objective review than a photoshopped image from the manufacture.
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