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Old 10-16-2011, 11:29 AM   #1
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2012 Media Center Options

After many years, I am looking to finally buy an 2012 Unlimited Rubicon (I live in Denver and the previous engine/tranny felt like it struggled too much going up into the mountains). This will be a daily driver and I do plan on taking it on mountain trails as well. I spent yesterday at the dealer looking at all of the options and am still trying to figure out which media center to get. I plan on getting the connectivity group, so even the basic 130 unit works well with an ipod/phone, either using the radio buttons or voice command. However, the tiny screen only shows a line or so at a time, so it can be a bit tough to navigate. My main concern was that the sound from the ipod usb console connection did not seem very good (the songs on it are at a 256 bit rate, so should sound like a CD), the FM radio sounded better. I noticed in another forum that some claimed the sound from a 430 or 730 hard drive was better than using the USB connection. Is this true, are there losses due to using the console USB versus a straight hard drive read?

If I were to upgrade to a NAV system for the bigger screen and hard drive is there really much advantage to the 730n RHR over the 430n RHB if you are getting the connectivity group (seems like just bread crumbs, dead recon, limited voice command and less drive space for an extra $721 invoice)?

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After many years, I am looking to finally buy an 2012 Unlimited Rubicon (I live in Denver and the previous engine/tranny felt like it struggled too much going up into the mountains). This will be a daily driver and I do plan on taking it on mountain trails as well. I spent yesterday at the dealer looking at all of the options and am still trying to figure out which media center to get. I plan on getting the connectivity group, so even the basic 130 unit works well with an ipod/phone, either using the radio buttons or voice command. However, the tiny screen only shows a line or so at a time, so it can be a bit tough to navigate. My main concern was that the sound from the ipod usb console connection did not seem very good (the songs on it are at a 256 bit rate, so should sound like a CD), the FM radio sounded better. I noticed in another forum that some claimed the sound from a 430 or 730 hard drive was better than using the USB connection. Is this true, are there losses due to using the console USB versus a straight hard drive read?

If I were to upgrade to a NAV system for the bigger screen and hard drive is there really much advantage to the 730n RHR over the 430n RHB if you are getting the connectivity group (seems like just bread crumbs, dead recon, limited voice command and less drive space for an extra $721 invoice)?

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Faster operation, split screen nav/media, Sirius Traffic, significantly more control over routing, more detailed maps...

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Old 10-16-2011, 04:28 PM   #3
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There is no dramatic difference between USB playback of songs that were recorded with high bit rates and the hard drive with songs ripped from a CD. You will notice a difference from songs transferred to the HD at lower quality recordings or songs recorded on the iPod at lower quality and played through the USB.

Are the extra Nav features of the 730 worth it? Only you can decide. I have both a 730 (2008 WK) and 430 (2011 WK2) and opted for the 430 again in the 2012 Rubi.
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Also, with the 730N you get wireless audio streaming. You don't really have to use the USB connection to play audio files off your smart phone, as long as the 730 supports it. The Sirius Travel/Traffic is pretty cool, too.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:35 PM   #5
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hmm, that's neat.

My sony mp3 player is bluetooth capable, would I be able to sync it to the jeep and stream wirelessly or does that only work for phones?
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Also, with the 730N you get wireless audio streaming. You don't really have to use the USB connection to play audio files off your smart phone, as long as the 730 supports it. The Sirius Travel/Traffic is pretty cool, too.
The 430N supports BT audio stereo streaming (A2DP) too. Although you don't need to use the USB connection to play songs off your smart phone, you will want to use it instead of the BT. The streamed audio quality on both units is less than playback from a file on the radio's HD or a player or thumb drive connected to the USB.

The 730 has Sirius Traffic which, if available in your area, streams traffic data which is an added cost after your first year. Both units have Sirius Travel Link, also a charge after the first year. The 430N does not have Sirius Traffic.
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So it sounds like high quality mp3 (256 bit rate) even off of the hard drive will not sound as good as the radio? Also, has anyone used the 430 for off road trails, without bread crumbs does it help much?
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Speaking on the 430 & the 430N:

For what it's worth, depending on when you plan on getting this vehicle if the build date is after early Dec 2011 then it will come with the newer Uconnect SW that has a higher bitpool rate for bluetooth streaming audio and gives outstanding sound quality. This and the new bluetooth texting profile MAP (message access profile) will be in the 2012.5 vehicles. If it is built prior to that date, then there will eventually be an update offered for the 2012 vehicles.
Same thing about the MAP as with the SMS texting that Uconnect supported before, your phone must support this bluetooth profile. There are some phones that support it currently and more coming.
You mentioned an MP3 player that is BT capable, yes you will be able to pair it to these radios also.
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So it sounds like high quality mp3 (256 bit rate) even off of the hard drive will not sound as good as the radio? Also, has anyone used the 430 for off road trails, without bread crumbs does it help much?
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Also, with the 730N you get wireless audio streaming. You don't really have to use the USB connection to play audio files off your smart phone, as long as the 730 supports it. The Sirius Travel/Traffic is pretty cool, too.
Hmm. I'm doing that on my 430 via Bluetooth. Also works with my i-pod in Bluetooth mode.
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So it sounds like high quality mp3 (256 bit rate) even off of the hard drive will not sound as good as the radio? Also, has anyone used the 430 for off road trails, without bread crumbs does it help much?
It's still an MP3, information has been lost to be able to compress the file.

Though I think you'd have to have some pretty good ears to tell the difference between a high quality MP3 and the CD version.
The type of music also is a factor on how good it will sound, classical and jazz suffer a lot when compressed.....
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Speaking on the 430 & the 430N:

For what it's worth, depending on when you plan on getting this vehicle if the build date is after early Dec 2011 then it will come with the newer Uconnect SW that has a higher bitpool rate for bluetooth streaming audio and gives outstanding sound quality. This and the new bluetooth texting profile MAP (message access profile) will be in the 2012.5 vehicles. If it is built prior to that date, then there will eventually be an update offered for the 2012 vehicles.
Same thing about the MAP as with the SMS texting that Uconnect supported before, your phone must support this bluetooth profile. There are some phones that support it currently and more coming.
You mentioned an MP3 player that is BT capable, yes you will be able to pair it to these radios also.
Hope the information is helpful.
I ended up ordering a Rubicon with the 430N, and just found out my build date will be Nov. 21. How long is it before the updates are usually released for the UConnect? Do you get a disc in the mail or need to go to the dealer or something?
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actually what a Uconnect supplier (there are 3 different suppliers of the Uconnect system and each support different radios) is working with Chrysler on is starting up a Uconnect support website. On this website will be FAQs, technical support, maybe some how to videos and also SW updates. On the SW updates, the plan is for customers to be able to download the update to a flash drive and then perform the update on their vehicle without having to go to the dealer.
As for when this site will be up and going, I'm not sure. I do know that Chrysler has people working on it. I am not sure if the 2012 update that will add the extra features will be released soon, I just don't have that date yet. However people here know that when I find something out, I am right here to let you know. If you were to call the dealer tomorrow and ask them about an update for the 2012 vehicles, I can assure you that they will not know anything about it.



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