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Old 12-15-2011, 05:03 PM   #1
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2012 Mopar Lift Kit

Any idea when a 2012 factory Lift kit will be avaliable? My dealer said have they are not avaliable yet.

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Old 12-15-2011, 05:06 PM   #2
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I would choose aftermarket anything over Mopar anyday IMO... Most aftermarket parts are so much stronger including lifts.(coming from my mechanic)

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Old 12-15-2011, 05:12 PM   #3
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Yeah, I'd say don't bother with the Mopar lift stuff unless there's some other consideration involved--i.e., you know the install tech and he's working for free, or you're married to the dealer's daughter, etc. For the most part you're just going to pay more for less, and there's no upside warranty or otherwise.
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thanks. so an aftermarket lift won't void a warranty? thatwould be nice.

what is the best-in-class lift brand then?
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Plus, being Mopar, you know its going to be premium in pricing also......
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Old 12-15-2011, 05:28 PM   #6
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so an aftermarket lift won't void a warranty? thatwould be nice.
It doesn't work like that. This was just discussed last night, and here's my answer from that thread:

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Use the forum search feature to look for the word "void" and you'll find everything you'll want to know.

That said, the answer is that your Chrysler warranty won't cover what you change and won't cover anything damaged by what you change. "Voidness" has nothing to do with it--the issue is "non-coverage." No part of the warranty becomes "void."
So whatever your lift damages--whether it's a Mopar lift or not--will no longer be covered by your Chrysler warranty. What is likely to be "damaged" by a lift depends on how big the lift is, what components are involved, and whether it's properly installed. Parts of your Jeep that are unaffected by the lift will remain covered under the warranty.

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what is the best-in-class lift brand then?
There's no answer. There are many, many options. You have to educate yourself. Look here and here for good places to start.
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good answer. thanks.
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actually they can "flag" your jeep for having a lift. really depends on the dealer. part of the reason people get a mopar lift is that at least the dealer that installs the mopar lift will honor all warranty, even if lift damaged a u joint or driveshaft.
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Don't take my word for it, but my dealer told me the Mopar lift kit is actually a re-branded AEV kit. Since it is not available yet, we will have to wait and see. Anyone else heard this?
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Don't take my word for it, but my dealer told me the Mopar lift kit is actually a re-branded AEV kit. Since it is not available yet, we will have to wait and see. Anyone else heard this?
Whether or not it's AEV, it's definitely made by someone else. Mopar doesn't make accessories, they just put their name on them.
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MTH I don't know how you do it. You've got to get tired of answering "so does it VOID my warranty?!?"
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actually they can "flag" your jeep for having a lift. really depends on the dealer. part of the reason people get a mopar lift is that at least the dealer that installs the mopar lift will honor all warranty, even if lift damaged a u joint or driveshaft.
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MOPAR lifts are made by Rubicon Express
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That isn't true for the 2012 lift. The 2012 lift is developed by Teraflex and is actually a really nice albeit slightly more expensive lift. The 3" stage 3 looks like a very capable lift. I am contemplating one myself. If I can get in writing that my dealer won't flag me for having it, it will go on the jeep. And if it costs me an extra 500 dollars to get that assurance, I'd happily pay it.
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That isn't true for the 2012 lift. The 2012 lift is developed by Teraflex and is actually a really nice albeit slightly more expensive lift. The 3" stage 3 looks like a very capable lift. I am contemplating one myself. If I can get in writing that my dealer won't flag me for having it, it will go on the jeep. And if it costs me an extra 500 dollars to get that assurance, I'd happily pay it.
It's absolutely true for the 2012 and your dealer's assurance means nothing other than that they will warrant the lift install, as any other shop that does the install would.

Chrysler (rather than your dealer) absolutely will NOT warrant the lift, its install, or any damage it causes. Download a warranty manual from the jeep owners website along with a mopar performance parts catalog and see for yourself. Dealers say all kinds of crazy stuff to get you to buy a jeep and whatever else they can sell you.

Of course, that's not to say it's a bad lift or that the dealer will do a poor job installing it. But just make sure you understand that when it comes to warranty issues--assuming the lift is installed properly--you will in fact be no better off having a dealer install it than an unaffilitated 4x4 shop.
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Dont worry about certain items that may not be covered as a result of a lift. Big deal, ball joints, u joints, bearings....disposable parts anyway. If your geared right, its highly unlikely a lift will affect your transmission or axles. Any problematic electrical or cooling will still be covered.
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It's absolutely true for the 2012 and your dealer's assurance means nothing other than that they will warrant the lift install, as any other shop that does the install would.

Chrysler (rather than your dealer) absolutely will NOT warrant the lift, its install, or any damage it causes. Download a warranty manual from the jeep owners website along with a mopar performance parts catalog and see for yourself. Dealers say all kinds of crazy stuff to get you to buy a jeep and whatever else they can sell you.

Of course, that's not to say it's a bad lift or that the dealer will do a poor job installing it. But just make sure you understand that when it comes to warranty issues--assuming the lift is installed properly--you will in fact be no better off having a dealer install it than an unaffilitated 4x4 shop.
No I think you misunderstood. I was saying that the 2012 mopar kit wasn't made by Rubicon Express they're made by Teraflex. I fully understand that what the dealer says is between me and the dealer. I know that Chrysler won't warrant the lift but my second point was if I can get the dealer to commit, on paper, to warrant the mopar lift then it's worth the mopar premium price. That and a Teraflex 3" lift with Fox Racing shocks would look really freakin sweet on my jeep.
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No I think you misunderstood. I was saying that the 2012 mopar kit wasn't made by Rubicon Express they're made by Teraflex. I fully understand that what the dealer says is between me and the dealer. I know that Chrysler won't warrant the lift but my second point was if I can get the dealer to commit, on paper, to warrant the mopar lift then it's worth the mopar premium price. That and a Teraflex 3" lift with Fox Racing shocks would look really freakin sweet on my jeep.
Gotcha. Yes, I thought you were saying that dealer-installed lifts were warrantied by Chrysler in some way for 2012s that they were not for pre-2012s. That of course is not true.

As for whether it's worth it to get a dealer warranty, that's up to you and the particulars of your situation. Most manufacturers and shops will warranty their parts and install, and, therefore, technically speaking having a dealer agree to do the same isn't really anything special. That said, if the dealer is financially secure, long established, reputable, etc. and all the local 4x4 shops are fly-by-night operations that appear ready to go out of business tomorrow, then you may be right that a dealer warranty is "worth" more than one from a shop.

And you won't get any dispute from me that a 3" lift and Fox shocks will look (and perform) really, really well.
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Gotcha. Yes, I thought you were saying that dealer-installed lifts were warrantied by Chrysler in some way for 2012s that they were not for pre-2012s. That of course is not true.

As for whether it's worth it to get a dealer warranty, that's up to you and the particulars of your situation. Most manufacturers and shops will warranty their parts and install, and, therefore, technically speaking having a dealer agree to do the same isn't really anything special. That said, if the dealer is financially secure, long established, reputable, etc. and all the local 4x4 shops are fly-by-night operations that appear ready to go out of business tomorrow, then you may be right that a dealer warranty is "worth" more than one from a shop.

And you won't get any dispute from me that a 3" lift and Fox shocks will look (and perform) really, really well.
Yeah I haven't found a long established 4x4 shop out here in San Antonio. The only one that has been there for some time is 4wheelParts and I have been warned against ever doing business with them. So unless I get recommendations from someone I trust I am looking at either doing it myself of letting the dealer do it. The dealer I have been speaking to said that they would warrant it and if they do the install then they won't void anything important on my factory warranty. If I can get it in writing then I'm in.
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Dont worry about certain items that may not be covered as a result of a lift. Big deal, ball joints, u joints, bearings....disposable parts anyway. If your geared right, its highly unlikely a lift will affect your transmission or axles. Any problematic electrical or cooling will still be covered.

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