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Old 01-30-2013, 09:06 PM   #1831
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I had to ask, just in case, they have a month or two to make a better decision to add the red stitching! :-). After all they added black seats. Should probably start a 10A black seat poll thread and forward to Jeep with preference before too late!

I'm sure Jeep will see how brilliant they are with such a fantastic decision when they wisely change to the red stitching!! Red is already in the stitching machines for the red seats so they may even save some set up costs during production. :-)

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Old 01-30-2013, 09:11 PM   #1832
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:20 PM   #1833
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I ordered my Anvil with the red leather! I was just asking for the folks that went for the black. Either way, I think every person that gets a 10A will be happy. As far as waiting until they are in the dealerships(if they don't sell out before production begins), there will be an even more limited supply and getting 2-4% below invoice will be very difficult. But that's just my opinion. I think the dealerships that didn't require a deposit know this and are probably hoping for a sell out of 10As and a couple of folks backing out once the vehicles arrive because they will be easy to sell at a higher than pre-order price.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:23 PM   #1834
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Pat and Archer have both stated in past posts that the seats are all black. They have not provided inaccurate information throughout this entire thread, so (barring a big surprise) I would tend to believe them.
Since the black seats had never been shown to anyone, I figured I would just ask to see what they looked like. I never once said they were wrong, I was just hoping for my own sake the seats would be black with red stitching. It never hurts to dream!

I would absolutely love it if Jeep switched to black with red stitching, as that ties the seats into the red theme that is going on elsewhere in the Jeep. I know most others think the same. In my opinion, it doesn't make sense to offer black seats on a special edition that are the same as every other seat in the Jeep lineup, but that's just me.

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Old 01-30-2013, 09:45 PM   #1835
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ArcherAce, I think I understood all of the order info to say that with the red seats the console, steering wheel and other black soft surfaces "would" have red stitching. Is this correct or am I wrong?

Thanks for all of the info you provide!
you are correct.

I think the black seats in the anvil 10as should have come with anvil stitching, but nobody asked me
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:57 PM   #1836
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Seriously, a bit disappointed if the black seat option is black on black with no red accents. Now I have to reconsider the red seats again?
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:13 PM   #1837
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Seriously, a bit disappointed if the black seat option is black on black with no red accents. Now I have to reconsider the red seats again?
Yep, I hear ya there. I was all set to go with the red seats on the 15th when I ordered mine (I like the red seats, I am just a sucker for black with red stitching). I was then (incorrectly, as it turns out) told by the dealer that the black seats WERE to have the red stitching, so I immediately changed my order to black seats. By the time I found out that black seats were slated to be all black, my order was already past the changeable state according to the dealer. So I am stuck with black seats.

Does that mean with black seats, the rest of the interior is also all black? For example does the steering wheel and center console no longer have the red stitching like what is shown in all the photos?

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Old 01-30-2013, 10:20 PM   #1838
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Yep, I hear ya there. I was all set to go with the red seats on the 15th when I ordered mine (I like the red seats, I am just a sucker for black with red stitching). I was then (incorrectly, as it turns out) told by the dealer that the black seats WERE to have the red stitching, so I immediately changed my order to black seats. By the time I found out that black seats were slated to be all black, my order was already past the changeable state according to the dealer. So I am stuck with black seats.

Does that mean with black seats, the rest of the interior is also all black? For example does the steering wheel and center console no longer have the red stitching like what is shown in all the photos?

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Sounds like archer said the interior remained the same despite the black seat il option. I would have gone red leather regardless but it would have been a MUCH more difficult choice had they been black with red stitch. Seems like the only obvious way to go since the rest of the interior accents had black with red stitching.

Nevermind just reread it and the post asked if with RED seats all accents were still red stitched. Whoops
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:27 PM   #1839
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Sounds like archer said the interior remained the same despite the black seat il option. I would have gone red leather regardless but it would have been a MUCH more difficult choice had they been black with red stitch. Seems like the only obvious way to go since the rest of the interior accents had black with red stitching.

Nevermind just reread it and the post asked if with RED seats all accents were still red stitched. Whoops
Yep, they asked about red leather.

It's my own fault. I believed the dealer that the seats would be black with red stitching. I would have never gone with black seats had i known them to be ALL black. It's just one of those hindsight is 20-20 type of deals I guess. Should have just went with the known color, instead of something that was just announced that morning.

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Old 01-30-2013, 10:27 PM   #1840
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So, Archer you are saying that the black accents have red stitching with red or black seats?
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:19 PM   #1841
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I hate this thread. Probably the only time I have ever thought about another Jeep then the one I have. lol
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:28 PM   #1842
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Started a new JK Forum thread: Informal Poll - 10A Rubi Black Seat Preference

Figured Jeep might see what the group of 10A Rubi folks buying the black seats want and maybe Jeep will take some notice depending on the responses from the group!

Thanks for your responses and the great info!!
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:29 PM   #1843
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I hate this thread. Probably the only time I have ever thought about another Jeep then the one I have. lol
Preachin to the choir man! I changed my mine about the 10A, bought a 13 Sahara, then kept following this thread and saw the awesome Anvil pics, ordered 10A exactly 3 weeks after buying the Sahara. But it will be worth it.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:36 PM   #1844
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its a nice thought to rally for any changes on the 10A, like the stitching, but im sure all materials have been forecast and procured.. its beyond the 11th hour for modifications, but who knows i suppose...
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yep, i hear ya there. I was all set to go with the red seats on the 15th when i ordered mine (i like the red seats, i am just a sucker for black with red stitching). I was then (incorrectly, as it turns out) told by the dealer that the black seats were to have the red stitching, so i immediately changed my order to black seats. By the time i found out that black seats were slated to be all black, my order was already past the changeable state according to the dealer. So i am stuck with black seats.

Does that mean with black seats, the rest of the interior is also all black? For example does the steering wheel and center console no longer have the red stitching like what is shown in all the photos?

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Old 01-31-2013, 12:07 AM   #1846
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What about black stitching with the red seats how would that look??
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:12 AM   #1847
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What about black stitching with the red seats how would that look??
I like that idea too actually. I think contrasting stitching looks great. Too bad it won't change anything but yes a little accent to the monochromatic look of the black or red seats would have been great.
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I like that idea too actually. I think contrasting stitching looks great. Too bad it won't change anything but yes a little accent to the monochromatic look of the black or red seats would have been great.
Well, we can all dream.
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:50 AM   #1849
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There is red stitching on the black leather steering wheel. Will its stay like this with the black seats?

Archer, any knowledge on this?
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:43 AM   #1850
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From the ones I have seen black seats have all black stitching. Red seats have red stitching on the seats, door pads, and steering wheel.
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:25 AM   #1851
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Archer, with the Anvil color. Are the pictures a fair representation of it or is it more Gray like in the brochure color chip?
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Poor Archer and Pat... You must be so tired to read us always asking you what the colors Anvil and Dune are really looking like! I hope we'll all get our answer soon. For us, off course, but for you too! Be sure that we all appreciate your help and time in this!
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Poor Archer and Pat... Be sure that we all appreciate your help and time in this!
Seconded.

Thanks for taking the time to answer the questions and share information.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:31 AM   #1854
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Archer, with the Anvil color. Are the pictures a fair representation of it or is it more Gray like in the brochure color chip?
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If you want to know what anvil looks like, find a brute trash can.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:33 AM   #1855
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From the ones I have seen black seats have all black stitching. Red seats have red stitching on the seats, door pads, and steering wheel.
This is disturbing to me.. I'm going to call my dealer as soon as they open..

Pat - can you or someone who has access to the ordering system check to see on the list of options that are included with the 10A package? I thought that list included the red accent stitched interior? Maybe that's just in my head, but I thought it said that was standard regardless which seats were ordered.

Thanks so much for answering all our stupid questions Archer! Even though your answers are disappointing me more and more with what Jeep has done, I thank you for getting us all the answers you have. Thanks again Pat for all your assistance throughout the post as well. You guys don't get enough credit! I might have to make the 15 mile trek to the plant and knock some heads around to get the seat situation corrected

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I hate this thread. Probably the only time I have ever thought about another Jeep then the one I have. lol
This is probably the only time I've considered a Rubi.

Anvil or Billet with red leather? Sick.... I'd mall crawl the heck out of it....
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It's kind of funny to read through this thread. The old addage "people are NEVER happy" truly applies. The 10A was originally supposed to come with red seats on black trim "only".

People posted by the bunch how they really wanted this Jeep but the red seats just killed it for them. They just couldn't bring themselves to purchase this jeep unless it could be had with black seats.

Guess what? Jeep gave you black seats as a limited time last minute option. Now everyone wants to get all up in arms because they don't have red accent stitching.

People just can't be happy!

Personally I would like black accent stitching on the red seats, but it has red. So I ordered it with red and thats my available choice. If it bothers me "that" bad then plenty of upholstery shops can restitch the covers for a fee.
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Look at the difference b/t the red seats much darker in real light. They look great in person as does the anvil as stated before by me.
After seeing how dark the red is, I'm happy to have gotten red!! Anyway, red is way faster!
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It's kind of funny to read through this thread. The old addage "people are NEVER happy" truly applies. The 10A was originally supposed to come with red seats on black trim "only".

People posted by the bunch how they really wanted this Jeep but the red seats just killed it for them. They just couldn't bring themselves to purchase this jeep unless it could be had with black seats.

Guess what? Jeep gave you black seats as a limited time last minute option. Now everyone wants to get all up in arms because they don't have red accent stitching.

People just can't be happy!

Personally I would like black accent stitching on the red seats, but it has red. So I ordered it with red and thats my available choice. If it bothers me "that" bad then plenty of upholstery shops can restitch the covers for a fee.
When spending $45k on a vehicle, I simply expected it to be like I was told - I guess that is not how "real life" is. I don't like being lied to, whether that lie was intentional or an ill informed dealer, the fact remains I was lied to. I was promised something that was not delivered upon. That is what I am upset about. I'm upset at myself because I like the red seats and went to the dealership that morning, planning to buy red seats. It just so happens that black with red stitching is my all time favorite seat combo, so naturally I ordered black seats on the 15th when I was told they were black with red stitching & the interior was still going to be black with red stitching.

A little over 2-weeks later we find out without a doubt that neither is true. That's just ridiculous. I could have dealt with one or the other missing as a lesson learned to never believe anyone, but both is tough to swallow when I could have gotten red seats with black and red interior. This is the first vehicle I've ever ordered and I can tell you right now, it's going to be my last. Just chalk it up to a big lesson learned.

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Did anyone mention this is a "Pre-sell"?

I would have pulled the trigger, too (especially since black is restricted), but wanted to see anvil first, then waited to see Dune (in production now) in either pics or person before ordering.

This was an item that wasn't supposed to even be available until mid-March, so of course there is some uncertainty. You can be the first kid on your block with an Anvil 10a, but there is some risk involved.

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