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Old 11-28-2012, 08:26 PM   #181
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I also wonder if the Affiliate Discounts apply?

Walk into dealer.....they want MSRP +$1000. Show them AR discount number and start negotiations at 2% below invoice. Hell, the Jeep mark up will be huge. Look at the COD's
The dealer invoice itself will be ridiculously high, just as it was with the CODs. Some people simply don't have the cash, time, energy, patience or sense to buy a normal Rubicon and build it up properly.

That's ok, though, it's still a great Jeep -- just one that is ridiculously overpriced...

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The dealer invoice itself will be ridiculously high, just as it was with the CODs. Some people simply don't have the cash, time, energy, patience or sense to buy a normal Rubicon and build it up properly.

That's ok, though, it's still a great Jeep -- just one that is ridiculously overpriced...
Where is the price? LOL have to agree though.
So quick to dismiss though.

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Old 11-28-2012, 09:05 PM   #183
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Where is the price? LOL have to agree though.
So quick to dismiss though.
Of course I'm just guessing, but my bet is that it's around $44k-$46k MSRP... hell, it may even be more than that!
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As always, a big thanks to Pat for all of the info leading up to the official release!

Is it just me, or are shots of black/white incredibly hard to find? I was hoping Anvil would be cool, but it looks like sky blue to me. At this point, I'm thinking black or maybe white, depending on how they look with red seats.

Please, please, please, make those red seats optional. Or maybe they'll grow on me, but I'm not sure...

Curious to see price point on these.

Would still end up swapping tires and wheels out. Would've been awesome if we got enough of a lift to go with 35"s, but I guess 33"s will be extra safe now? Or would 35"s be doable given the extra half inch and stubby bumpers?

Other additions look nice. Love the hood and bumpers are also nice. EVIC additions are nice - also curious as to whether or not those will be available/unlockable on others...
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Of course I'm just guessing, but my bet is that it's around $44k-$46k MSRP... hell, it may even be more than that!

Stock loaded Rubi's are $44K ....

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Old 11-28-2012, 09:32 PM   #186
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Stock loaded Rubi's are $44K ....

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I'm just basing my guess on all the CODs that seemed to be around $46k sticker. You're probably right, though. This thing could arrive much closer to $50k... YIKES!
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Stock loaded Rubi's are $44K ....

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This hunk of junk is gonna hit 50k for unlimited and no offense to anyone but for 50k I for damn sure it buying a jeep or any Chrysler product for that matter. 50k is corvette money, 5series BMW, e class Benz, LT tahoes, zl1 camaro, Shelby mustangs my god but if I'm blowing half a 100,000 dollars, I want something that goes fast or basically drives the car for me and looks great sitting clean in a garage. For 30k ill take a jeep in the woods and in some mud cause its fun of course an nothing beats the doors off, except blowing off the doors of other cars in 500hp sexy ass muscle cars. Sorry but a jeep is more a fun awesome toy and sick looking SUV not a 50k luxury car, sports car, or large family SUV
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This hunk of junk is gonna hit 50k for unlimited and no offense to anyone but for 50k I for damn sure it buying a jeep or any Chrysler product for that matter. 50k is corvette money, 5series BMW, e class Benz, LT tahoes, zl1 camaro, Shelby mustangs my god but if I'm blowing half a 100,000 dollars, I want something that goes fast or basically drives the car for me and looks great sitting clean in a garage. For 30k ill take a jeep in the woods and in some mud cause its fun of course an nothing beats the doors off, except blowing off the doors of other cars in 500hp sexy ass muscle cars. Sorry but a jeep is more a fun awesome toy and sick looking SUV not a 50k luxury car, sports car, or large family SUV
Edit: not buying
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:38 PM   #189
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This hunk of junk is gonna hit 50k for unlimited and no offense to anyone but for 50k I for damn sure it buying a jeep or any Chrysler product for that matter. 50k is corvette money, 5series BMW, e class Benz, LT tahoes, zl1 camaro, Shelby mustangs my god but if I'm blowing half a 100,000 dollars, I want something that goes fast or basically drives the car for me and looks great sitting clean in a garage. For 30k ill take a jeep in the woods and in some mud cause its fun of course an nothing beats the doors off, except blowing off the doors of other cars in 500hp sexy ass muscle cars. Sorry but a jeep is more a fun awesome toy and sick looking SUV not a 50k luxury car, sports car, or large family SUV
Funny thing is, I've been going back and forth between a JKUR, a C350, and a 5 series :-)

JKUR has been winning the battle for quite a while, though.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:46 PM   #190
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Funny thing is, I've been going back and forth between a JKUR, a C350, and a 5 series :-)

JKUR has been winning the battle for quite a while, though.
Well for high 30s the rubi is great and all if you will use it for what it is made for. But I went from wanting and test driving a 2012 glk 350 4matic the c350 4matic and an 2012 sti and then the jeep. I just wanted a fun SUV going from a 5.0 2011 mustang convertible was hard enough so I had to keep some fun in my life lol
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Jeep was my choice. It's a convertible with almost three hundred horsepower that can damn near go any where. I can also tell you the only community that is even close the jeep community is motorcyclist . There is a brotherhood seldom experienced by many ! And that is unfortunate . Enjoy whichever decision you make, but that was my two cents.
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This hunk of junk is gonna hit 50k for unlimited and no offense to anyone but for 50k I for damn sure it buying a jeep or any Chrysler product for that matter. 50k is corvette money, 5series BMW, e class Benz, LT tahoes, zl1 camaro, Shelby mustangs my god but if I'm blowing half a 100,000 dollars, I want something that goes fast or basically drives the car for me and looks great sitting clean in a garage. For 30k ill take a jeep in the woods and in some mud cause its fun of course an nothing beats the doors off, except blowing off the doors of other cars in 500hp sexy ass muscle cars. Sorry but a jeep is more a fun awesome toy and sick looking SUV not a 50k luxury car, sports car, or large family SUV
Very true ... we went to the Orange County Auto show in October. I sat in a Grand Cherokee Overland.. $50K, Jeep JK.. $44K. I looked and sat in a Ford Raptor.. $70K. All were poorly designed in terms of ergonomics.. I'm not a PU truck person, I like the Raptor ... but way too big for DD and it appears adolescent in nature. My 83 year old mom couldn't get into it.

I also went over to Mercedes and sat in a GLK350, the Grand Cherokee's big brother, but a lot nicer... $53K. A young girl said to me excited, this is best vehicle.. my parents have one.

Do you see a trend here?

Then I wandered over to Land Rover and sat in a Range Rover Sport HSE.. $65K. Very nice! When you sit in this vehicle it wraps itself around you. I could drive for hours non-stop in a RRS.

It's too bad the Jeep Cherokee XJ and Discovery II was discontinued.. both were what I like in a vehicle.. no frills, capable, comfortable and under $35K.

I always told myself I wouldn't pay more than $25K for a vehicle...

Look at me now...

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Old 11-28-2012, 10:55 PM   #193
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Man I haven't read such bleeding and whining and crying in a while. Jeep will sell the shit out of these. I like the whole retro thing. Hasn't Jeep made red seats and interiors before? Thought I remember them even doing denim seats. My only concern with red leather would not be the elements, it would be attracting too much attention to itself in a parking lot when the top is off. I think in 20 years the Anvil/red combo will look cool faded and worn.

As others have mentioned the add-ons look like AEV. If so, I'm glad to see AEV taking a move forward with the styling. Looks so much better than 75% of the Franken-parts available out there. And it bodes well for the next generation Wrangler if they work together on the design.
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:07 PM   #194
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"I would crap my pants laughing if it came with chrome Rubi wheels."

I wouldn't be pissed...Unless they Plasti-Dipped them...
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I noticed the trail they took this pictures on seems to be a little more rugged and more rocky than other trails that Jeep has used in the past to promote the Wrangler... Is Jeep really promoting that fact that you could drive the wrangler on this trail or a similar trail without any problems of breakage or failure.
Just wondering if anyone would have any problems if they take their wrangler in after some breakage or failure on the trail and tell the service department, "My Wrangler broke (or bent) this part while I was off-roading on the trail were they took the promotional pictures"... will they tell you, "we will be happy to take care of that" or would they tell you "sorry sir, but Jeep does not cover off-road abuse"
Just a thought... after seeing the pictures.
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Well jeep can afford to f up a few 50k wranglers? Can you? That is the question lol
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:32 AM   #197
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I was expecting something cool, some upgrades to it's off road prowess that people do everyday to their factory JK's. Maybe a little lift and some 33's. Maybe some weather resistant seats, maybe a hemi or diesel. I wasn't holding my breath for that last one.

Who at Jeep said Red LEATHER seats, red Rice Burner Tuner hooks, 31.5" tires and a puffy powder blue paint job would be awesome.

Fire that guy.
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In my opinion the best Special Edition was the original Rubicon so I just had my hopes up I guess. The original had all offroad upgrades over a standard TJ. I thought they might try something cool like that for the anniversary. That's what bummed me out. I guess from here on out you have to pay $5,000 for fluff and boggers.

I totally agree...not only are they RED but they're LEATHER. As soon as people started saying it looks great in my BMW, Audi, 350Z I almost jumped off that fiscal cliff everyone is talking about.
My weather resistant leather rubicon jeep seats have seen Arizona 116 degree sun, rain, sand, mud, dirt, 100 pound Rottweiler, and I've hopped in with tools and loaded up things that have only minimally scathed the material. You can't beat heated seats when you are doorless, and topless when the chill of the night is clawing at you. Those seats are tough and I use/abuse em the way they were meant to be used on an offroad jeep.

Not sure how red would stand up but I'd cover em until I was cruising the city and then I'd let em shine!
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I've got to admit . . . these pics do drive home how spoiled we all are here folks.

I mean let's be clear: Front winch-ready steel convertable stubby bumper with two tow hooks, rear steel bumper with two tow hooks, f/r solid axle D44s, f/r lockers, e-discos, stock JK skids, 4:1 t-case, 4.10 diffs, real rock rails, vented hood for heat issues that could be very real in 4L . . . all stock.

You've got to admit--that's a pretty capable STOCK vehicle by any standards, anywhere in the world. Amazing they're even produced anymore, frankly. Other vehicles requires thousands and thousands of aftermarket components to get up to speed.

And here we are complaining about seat choice and color. Just sayin'. Keep it in perspective!
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I am with a bunch of others here, hate the red seats.

I didn't expect much, after seeing the COD and other special Jeeps, I expected more of the same.
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I would rock the hell out of the seats!!!! but then again my taste are not the same as 99% of folks on this forum.
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Jeep has done red interior before. In fact, the ENTIRE interior used to be red.
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If you look at the pics in this webpage, you can see that the instrument cluster is different in the 10th Ann. Looks kinda retro with an old school x10 RPM gauge instead of the x100 current versions.
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Jeep has done red interior before. In fact, the ENTIRE interior used to be red.
I was thinking of the early ZJs when I mentioned that ugly red. If this Rubicon edition had a red hard plastic dash to go with the red seats it would be this vehicles modern day twin.
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If the color Anvil is indeed exclusive to the anniversary edition I will be disgusted. Got everything ready to pull the trigger on a JKUR and no colors are doing it for me this year..... sucks!
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If the color Anvil is indeed exclusive to the anniversary edition I will be disgusted. Got everything ready to pull the trigger on a JKUR and no colors are doing it for me this year..... sucks!
Why don't you just get the anniversary edition then?
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ANVIL ... Inspired by Wilton Tool Manufacturing.


Um, thats a vice.
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Third try, then I'm giving up:

Pat,
Can you try to find out whether or not the EVIC can be "unlocked" on other 2013s with something like a software upgrade or a chip replacement?

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