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Old 02-16-2013, 10:54 AM   #2911
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Pat, any other limited editions on the immediate horizon to compete with our 10A? When does the 10A ordering windows close?

Does the production of our 10A limit the availability of other rubi at the dealers. Curious since rubicons are hard to find on the east coast already which is one reason of many I'm ordering the 10A as I would have to order a rubi anyway.
Not really limited, but there are some special editions coming. Dragon and another one maybe named Polar.

10A stock orders for dealers do count against their available rubicon allocation, sold orders on the 10A don't.

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Old 02-16-2013, 11:22 AM   #2913
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Did we ever decide why it is higher? larger diameter tire? Different springs? ArcherAce I love getting these little tidbits from you, its mostly why I keep reading this thread. Maybe we can mail some numbered certificates to Archer and he can slip each one in a glove box.
I'd guess springs. They have a different part number than the standard Wranglers and Rubicons.

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It is springs, to handle the heavier bumpers and possible winch. As stated earlier, the tires are a differrent load rating and might contribute to the height as well. I'd love to see if Archer can measure the tire on a stock Rubicon vs the 10A and see if the tire is indeed smaller once it is on the Jeep. You know a ground to top of tire measurement.
I did measure from the center of the hub to the bottom of the flare. That's how I came up with the 1/2" compared to a stock Rubicon. We get another one in I'll measure the tires.

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Now I'm told 7000.
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I'd guess springs. They have a different part number than the standard Wranglers and Rubicons.



I did measure from the center of the hub to the bottom of the flare. That's how I came up with the 1/2" compared to a stock Rubicon. We get another one in I'll measure the tires.



Now I'm told 7000.
Does that make it an "un"limited edition?
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:26 AM   #2915
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Now I'm told 7000.
And my interest dwindles just a little more. Can't blame them but that's really not the direction I was hoping for. Any more of that talk and they are going to have a lot of unhappy dealers with cancelled pre-sells on their lots.




Pat any info on the POLAR model? Rubicon or Sahara Based special edition? Any clues?
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Does that make it an "un"limited edition?
Compared to the number of other Wranglers we make, I'd say it's still limited. Just not as limited as was planned.
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Just a thanks to Pat, Archer and everyone else that brings facts to the forum. Your insight and response are greatly appreciated here.
I couldn't agree more and second the thanks. Archer and Pat : you're awesome and appreciated.
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:41 AM   #2918
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I agree with Doctorsti. If it's getting to where it's not so special, and i can look at them on any given dealers lot in a few months, why bother with pulling the trigger now, or i could just go buy a new Rubicon now without the wait and uncertainty. This is very bummer news...Pat and Archer, when you get confirmation of that 7,000 number let us (me) know.
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Compared to the number of other Wranglers we make, I'd say it's still limited. Just not as limited as was planned.
Gotchya. Doesn't make me want to cancel my order, just takes a little of the mystique away...
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7000...that sucks
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:53 AM   #2921
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And my interest dwindles just a little more. Can't blame them but that's really not the direction I was hoping for. Any more of that talk and they are going to have a lot of unhappy dealers with cancelled pre-sells on their lots.
Can't agree more, although still excited to get mine, but the rarity of these now seems to be going out the window pretty quick. 3500 to 7000? Big gap, and like its been said in other posts, with those numbers, we're going to be seeing them on dealers lots all over the place. I was hoping to have something at least somewhat rare! Oh-well.

Pat - do you have any idea how many have been sold so far?

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Old 02-16-2013, 11:57 AM   #2922
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Still all good

KM2 Tires, Steel bumpers, better rock rails, upgraded seats/interior, etc. All still the major draw for me. Less stuff I have to mod on my own. Being a special addition is a nice perk also, but not the major reason why I want it. 5000 or 7000 all good by me.
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I agree with Doctorsti. If it's getting to where it's not so special, and i can look at them on any given dealers lot in a few months, why bother with pulling the trigger now, or i could just go buy a new Rubicon now without the wait and uncertainty. This is very bummer news...Pat and Archer, when you get confirmation of that 7,000 number let us (me) know.
Guys, just to put it in context: jeep sold 194,142 Wranglers last year alone. If the percentage I found is correct, around 26% of those are Rubicons - so about 50,000.

7,000 is still pretty limited.
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This is why they didnt number them folks. They can make as many of them as they want. The higher the interest, the more they will make.
If you limit a certain number of them being produced, you are limiting your potential buyer interest, therefore you lose potential $$$.
I doubt we will see any more limited productions for a long time if ever again.
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Yep, that 7000 number is very important to me. My feeling about trading in my 13 Sahara were partly based on the fact that the 10A would be very limited and I needed to jump in now and take the $$ hit on the trade. But we shall see, that number may not be too bad...still about 140 10As for each of the 50 States not counting the ones going to Canada. How many Call of Duty editions were issued? The 10A should just have fewer than those, IMO.
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Yep, that 7000 number is very important to me. My feeling about trading in my 13 Sahara were partly based on the fact that the 10A would be very limited and I needed to jump in now and take the $$ hit on the trade. But we shall see, that number may not be too bad...still about 140 10As for each of the 50 States not counting the ones going to Canada. How many Call of Duty editions were issued? The 10A should just have fewer than those, IMO.
that's the problem, there were far fewer Video Game Jeeps and they were numbered. Ridiculous if you ask me. 14% of the total Rubicons on sold is not what I would call limited so while Jeep may build 200,000 Wranglers if close to 15% of the 50,000 Wranglers are one particular model I don't consider that limited at all. 5% yes, 10% maybe.... 15% nope
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Not really limited, but there are some special editions coming. Dragon and another one maybe named Polar.

10A stock orders for dealers do count against their available rubicon allocation, sold orders on the 10A don't.
I saw that dragon at the Detroit car show! Very cool!
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Yep, that 7000 number is very important to me. My feeling about trading in my 13 Sahara were partly based on the fact that the 10A would be very limited and I needed to jump in now and take the $$ hit on the trade. But we shall see, that number may not be too bad...still about 140 10As for each of the 50 States not counting the ones going to Canada. How many Call of Duty editions were issued? The 10A should just have fewer than those, IMO.
I totally agree, every vehicle I have owned has been a special/limited edition model. Thats why I get them..cause there arent many out there. To me, thats important.
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While the delay does make me wonder about potentially seeing 2014 arriving so close to the time I finally pick up my 2013 - in the end - I want this Jeep - even if they make 7000 of them.

However, if the 2014 models had something significantly different / better about them vs the 2013 - then I would be less than thrilled - new engine, better transmissions, etc - I'm assuming Archer and/or Pat wouldn't be able to tell us - but I'd love to know how the 2014's will be different from this year's model at this point

I honestly don't even know when the 2014's arrive - I haven't heard anything about the 2014 Wrangler
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I wonder if their dragon concept has the LED Flicker?
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I'm not sure why anyone would pass on the red seats. The black looks so bland.
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that's the problem, there were far fewer Video Game Jeeps and they were numbered. Ridiculous if you ask me. 14% of the total Rubicons on sold is not what I would call limited so while Jeep may build 200,000 Wranglers if close to 15% of the 50,000 Wranglers are one particular model I don't consider that limited at all. 5% yes, 10% maybe.... 15% nope
I can understand if that's important to people. I used to collect comics and stuff. Totally get it. I'm getting mine because I love it. If it happens to be rare - awesome.

Maybe enough people will be concerned about the amount of blue in anvil... or the lack of red stitching on black seats... or the tires being a half inch smaller... or the excessive production run... that they'll shy away and Jeep *will* only make 5000. I hope so for you guys.

I'll just be happy to get my 1 of however-many.
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I can understand if that's important to people. I used to collect comics and stuff. Totally get it. I'm getting mine because I love it. If it happens to be rare - awesome.

Maybe enough people will be concerned about the amount of blue in anvil... or the lack of red stitching on black seats... or the tires being a half inch smaller... or the excessive production run... that they'll shy away and Jeep *will* only make 5000. I hope so for you guys.

I'll just be happy to get my 1 of however-many.
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This is why they didnt number them folks. They can make as many of them as they want. The higher the interest, the more they will make.
If you limit a certain number of them being produced, you are limiting your potential buyer interest, therefore you lose potential $$$.
I doubt we will see any more limited productions for a long time if ever again.

Yet they closed the ordering on the black interior 10A very early on. They could have sold even more 10A's if it was available to order still. I know I'm not the only one who spent too much time reading and debating about what I wanted, and by the time I decided found out I can't get it anymore.
If they didn't have a set amount already planned, why the cutoff of the interior color option?
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7,000

If they only planned 3500, it would never pay the R&D cost much less profit, we have to be realistic, if it was 3500 they would have been 50K, and a dealer would hold to MSRP or higher and they would get it.

I was fixing to pull the trigger last fall on a regular Rubicon, but I saw this 10A and waited. I am buying it for the awesome interior, the hood, steel front and rear bumbers. That alone will make you probably 1 in 50 in comparison.

We all will have an awesome looking jeep that 49 other jeep owners we pass is going to do a double take. And it will be a topic of conversation just about everywhere we go on any given weekend outdoors.

There are lots of JK sports, less sahara's, even less rubicons, and will be even more less 10A's, So everyone cheer up and dont let numbers dampen the aniticipation of this awesome looking Rubi that we will have before we know it!
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While Archer has better intel, I think the 7000 number is off.

I'm guessing Jeep received more orders than they forecasted for and IMO why we have the delay in start of production. However, I don't think the factory will build 7000. If anything, I'm guessing they will limit the amount of dealer stock orders they will approve. The other thing that comes to mind is export and if they decided to up the amount they will ship overseas.

I don't have an official number on how many have been ordered.
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While I totally understand why you would all prefer a properly limited edition. I am actually hoping this sells like crazy.

I am looking at it like a test to see if these upgraded off-road friendly options will sell well. If they do, hopefully we will see more and varied options in the next iteration of the Wrangler.

As someone said, they have to justify the R&D, etc...
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KM2 Tires, Steel bumpers, better rock rails, upgraded seats/interior, etc. All still the major draw for me. Less stuff I have to mod on my own. Being a special addition is a nice perk also, but not the major reason why I want it. 5000 or 7000 all good by me.
This^

I am not going to get my boxers in a wad over how many 10A units Jeep decides to push out the factory. The vehicle is unique enough, and represents a great value considering the OEM equipment load-out.

Should I care if I'm the only cat in my neighborhood with a 10A? Hell no! That's just more people I know of with fine tastes in vehicles.
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Not really limited, but there are some special editions coming. Dragon and another one maybe named Polar.

10A stock orders for dealers do count against their available rubicon allocation, sold orders on the 10A don't.
Pat, I'm guessing dragon will be similar to this Chinese edition?
https://www.google.com/search?q=drag...iw=768&bih=900

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