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Old 09-28-2012, 06:22 AM   #1981
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Train Arrival
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Old 09-28-2012, 06:29 AM   #1982
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I too ordered a JKUR in white with 6 speed on that date and got my first email on 9/18. Haven't heard anything since but, I know my dealer has my VIN. Going to hope to use your estimated times as my own untill I hear something. Do ya think they are building a group with the same color and options all together?
Great choice, that was the same colors as my 05 LJ and liked the black and white theme. There was a lot of talk about the monthly allotments with so many auto's and so many manuals on here. I bet we are in the same boat... the only options it appeared were grouped so far were trannies, leather seats, and exterior colors. Then again some people ordered theirs a long time ago without starting yet and others after and already received. I am hoping for the 6 week average.

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Old 09-28-2012, 08:05 AM   #1983
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Ordered 9/26 got the confirmation e-mail this morning (9/28).
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Old 09-28-2012, 08:24 AM   #1984
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I as well would like the info how to track on insight...any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 09-28-2012, 08:27 AM   #1985
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Ordered 9/8, got the email that it is being built this AM
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Old 09-28-2012, 09:32 AM   #1986
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Well I placed my order on August 27 and it is in. Here are the dates for those interested in the process:
D1- 8/30/2012
Plant build- 9/14/2012
Plant release (kz) - 9/15/2012
In Bay (rail) - 9/16/2012
Bunch of train stops through 9/22/2012...
At the distributor for 3 days.
Delivered to dealer 9/26/2012

'13 JKUR
AUTO
Saddle cloth
Hard top
430N
Max tow
4.10
Deep Cherry Red Pearl
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Old 09-28-2012, 09:35 AM   #1987
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Well I placed my order on August 27 and it is in. Here are the dates for those interested in the process:
D1- 8/30/2012
Plant build- 9/14/2012
Plant release (kz) - 9/15/2012
In Bay (rail) - 9/16/2012
Bunch of train stops through 9/22/2012...
At the distributor for 3 days.
Delivered to dealer 9/26/2012

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AUTO
Saddle cloth
Hard top
430N
Max tow
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Deep Cherry Red Pearl
Also note this is the exact date the Insight system said it would be delivered since I first checked it at the start of September.
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Old 09-28-2012, 09:38 AM   #1988
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I as well would like the info how to track on insight...any help would be greatly appreciated.
This is the link I found for Insight. You need your VIN to access it enter it where i put " your vin here" in the link

https://insightnl.extra.chrysler.com..._SEARCH_BY=VIN
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:12 AM   #1989
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This is the link I found for Insight. You need your VIN to access it enter it where i put " your vin here" in the link

https://insightnl.extra.chrysler.com..._SEARCH_BY=VIN
Not working for me for some reason. One thing I noticed in the link is that it has about 5 x's next to "dealercode" I wonder if the dealer code needs to be entered in.
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:26 AM   #1990
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Didn't work for me either.
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:33 AM   #1991
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Didn't work for me either.
If your order is not in D1 status it will not show up in Insight.

You'll know when you're in D1 because you will have received the second email from Jeep that says the parts have been received and the vehicle is scheduled for production.

My order sat in D1 status for over two weeks, then from production to out of Toledo on rail in 2 days.
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:35 AM   #1992
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If your order is not in D1 status it will not show up in Insight.

You'll know when you're in D1 because you will have received the second email from Jeep that says the parts have been received and the vehicle is scheduled for production.

My order sat in D1 status for over two weeks, then from production to out of Toledo on rail in 2 days.
Yes. Great clarification. Same experience I had. The "xxxxx" is the generic dealer code.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:57 AM   #1993
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Yes. Great clarification. Same experience I had. The "xxxxx" is the generic dealer code.
I think that must be the issue. Not in D1 yet. I need to learn patience.
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:13 PM   #1994
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Mine went like this (ordered a Rock Lobster JKUR)

9/12 - ordered.
9/14 - C status...tentative schedule
9/20 - D status...firm schedule
9/26 - D1 status...unit sequenced for production
.... And this where I sit and wait currently
I downloaded Pat@fields legend of codes but when I visit the VONS page it just says "Production Scheduled." Where are the codes on that page?

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Old 09-28-2012, 12:39 PM   #1995
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I downloaded Pat@fields legend of codes but when I visit the VONS page it just says "Production Scheduled." Where are the codes on that page?

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the Jeep VOTS web site won't give you the current code. Insight will, our your salesperson can look it up if you can't get into insight. Their system will pull it up before it hits D1. Insight won't.

You can ask him for a POC (Priced Order Confirmation). This will have your VIN, VON, and current status.
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Not working for me for some reason. One thing I noticed in the link is that it has about 5 x's next to "dealercode" I wonder if the dealer code needs to be entered in.
I had the same issue. It will work with the xs but only if you're in D1. I kept getting an error until I hit D1 status and then it worked fine.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:20 PM   #1997
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guys, does anyone know if there are any mechanical and structural differences between the 2012 and the 2013 JKs? I have front and rear aftermarket bumpers that I will be removing from 2012 and putting them on my 2013. I am also concerned about the calipers/disks size on the new 2013. I hope they are the same as what came in the 2012s because I have 15" wheels and they clear my 2012 by a few hair lines so it is important my 2013 also carries the same caliper/rotor size.
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How do you log into insight? Can someone PM it.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:51 PM   #1999
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Picking my jeep up right now! It took exactly one month from order date to pick up. The paperwork didn't take long to finish up. About an hour and a half.
It's one beautiful beast! I can't wait to pull away in it...
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:34 PM   #2001
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Picked up my white 2 door Rubicon yesterday. First Jeep. The process was

8-15 Order
8-23 Scheduled D1
9-6 Built... all in one day
9-15 Depart on rail-car
9-21 Unloaded from rail-car Nashville
9-26 Loaded and depart on truck
9-27 Unloaded at dealer

I call her Mrs. Ruby White and expect no awards for originality in the name. It just suits and I'm sticking to it, say what you may. It was raining and gray at the dealer and most of the way home, the long way. 70 miles along the river, up mountains, through Chattanooga and on; just me and Mrs. White and the rain. Mrs. White and I took the old two lane routes so we could get to know one another better. The trip was more than words can describe. Really.

I hope all my 2013 Waiting Room friends have as good a first experience as I did yesterday. I can tell you all it's just going to get better from here.
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:36 PM   #2002
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Log on to Insight info for me too please...
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:42 PM   #2003
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I havn't seen to much talk on prices paid. I sent out an email to a couple of dealerships stating what I wanted;

Wrangler Unlimited Sport 4x4
“S” package- customer preferred package.
5 speed automatic transmission.
3.6L Pentastar engine.
Commando Green.
Black cloth seats.
Alpine stereo system.
Black 3 piece hard top.
Anti-spin differential.
Max Tow group w/ 3.73 gear ratio.
Power Convenience group.
Connectivity group.

MSRP on above is; $32,700.. So far the best price given to me is; $31,933. The internet mangr. said this was at dealer invoice plus $600 to transport this vehicle to my city from where ever it is currently. I did join Tread Lightly, but it hasn't been 30 days yet. With that to fall back on, realistically, how much off sticker should I expect to get for a good deal?
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I havn't seen to much talk on prices paid. I sent out an email to a couple of dealerships stating what I wanted;

Wrangler Unlimited Sport 4x4
“S” package- customer preferred package.
5 speed automatic transmission.
3.6L Pentastar engine.
Commando Green.
Black cloth seats.
Alpine stereo system.
Black 3 piece hard top.
Anti-spin differential.
Max Tow group w/ 3.73 gear ratio.
Power Convenience group.
Connectivity group.

MSRP on above is; $32,700.. So far the best price given to me is; $31,933. I did join Tread Lightly, but it hasn't been 30 days yet. With that to fall back on, realistically, how much off sticker should I expect to get for a good deal?

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Don't base it on sticker price (MSRP). Ask them to see the printout with the dealer invoice price, and then begin negotiations on percentages taken off of that. In my case, I settled at just over 2% off invoice, which is pretty decent...
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I don't use the insight link, but I can also help with checking status updates if you are in D1, pm me if you need help. Only your dealer can tell you what your status is on dealer connect until it gets to D1. It is also on your POC (priced order confirmation)/dealer invoice.
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I havn't seen to much talk on prices paid. I sent out an email to a couple of dealerships stating what I wanted;

Wrangler Unlimited Sport 4x4
“S” package- customer preferred package.
5 speed automatic transmission.
3.6L Pentastar engine.
Commando Green.
Black cloth seats.
Alpine stereo system.
Black 3 piece hard top.
Anti-spin differential.
Max Tow group w/ 3.73 gear ratio.
Power Convenience group.
Connectivity group.

MSRP on above is; $32,700.. So far the best price given to me is; $31,933. The internet mangr. said this was at dealer invoice plus $600 to transport this vehicle to my city from where ever it is currently. I did join Tread Lightly, but it hasn't been 30 days yet. With that to fall back on, realistically, how much off sticker should I expect to get for a good deal?
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1% below Invoice.
2013 Rubicon Unlimited, manual, premium soft top, max tow.
$33,400 + fees
$36,428.45 OTD
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I havn't seen to much talk on prices paid. I sent out an email to a couple of dealerships stating what I wanted;

MSRP on above is; $32,700.. So far the best price given to me is; $31,933. The internet mangr. said this was at dealer invoice plus $600 to transport this vehicle to my city from where ever it is currently. I did join Tread Lightly, but it hasn't been 30 days yet. With that to fall back on, realistically, how much off sticker should I expect to get for a good deal?
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You have another $2,500 on the table. That's a lot of scratch to lose.

If you do some searching around here - you'll find a lot of info on deals people have gotten. I spent hours reading, taking notes and calculating prices. The best I've seen is a little over 12.5% off MSRP which should be around 6% off invoice. Most people seem to be happy at 1 to 2% off invoice. I was able to get 4.5% off invoice with not much effort other than emailing and pitting dealerships against each other (I saved well over $4000 and only stepped foot on ONE lot). The other 1.5% I missed out on was only a few hundred dollars and wasn't worth my time to spend a few more days working the deal around town. Plus it's no fun pi$$ing off every dealer in town. It doesn't matter if you work down from MSRP or invoice - just know your percentages. IMO 10% off MSRP (or 4% off invoice) should be relatively easy if you have 3 or 4 dealers within 30 minutes distance.

Read through this thread:
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/tip...ce-186631.html
TX Sasquatch describes his deal in post #9. Take notes.

Good luck - have fun!
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Does anyone know what "pulled from industry" means on insights tracking? My jeep went from staged for shipment, to departed facility to pulled from industry. When the pulled from industry notification updated, my ship date moved to 2 days longer.
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Ordered on 9/14, dealer thought they had sent me an email with my VIN/VON but turns out they hadn't and I've been trying to be patient with no info... Finally, today got it sorted and I'm in D1 with Est Ship Date of 10/8! Pretty fired up about that, since they initially set my expectations at 60 days. Really hope I get a chance to pull the top and play before winter sets in, Oct seems more likely for that, then when it was looking November!

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