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Old 04-25-2013, 08:01 PM   #31
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Reliability is about the same I'd say to a reasonable amount(160k) but the taco will outlast it. They are both good. But as stated before, why buy a Tacoma when it gets worse gas mileage than a full size? Granted the 4banger gets good gas mileage, but who wants a squirrel powered car? I've put 1,000 miles on my dads crew can silverado helping him out at his camp. I averaged 19.5 mpg. Granted that's not that great at first glance but there was no highway there. On the highway I got 22.

Bottom line, if you need a truck, get a real one that has a large payload and a large tow capacity. If you want something that can just haul mulch, you'd have more fun with a wrangler with no top and doors pulling a utility trailer full of mulch. That's at least what I do currently

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Used to have Tacoma...

I had a 2006 Tacoma TRD Quad Cab with everything including the "heavy tow package" (6K lbs.). It was an excellent vehicle. In fact, it was probably the most common sense vehicle I've owned. It did everything I needed, and did it well. I had 125K miles when I traded it on my 2013 JKU Sahara. Sure, it was paid, free and clear. But, I really didn't need two vehicles (insurance, maintenance, taxes), and I really didn't needa truck. What I wanted was a Jeep. (The first new vehicle that I wanted to buy many years ago was a CJ, but I just couldn't afford it.) I do not regret my decision. I'm very happy with my Jeep. And, the kids and grandkids love it too! As for the question of which is going to be your best choice, for me it was more than just about which was the most "common sense vehicle." The Jeep was and is what I wanted. Only you can truly know which vehicle is going to fit in your "what I really want" column. If you're looking for practical, I'm afraid that the Toyota is probably the hands down winner. If you're looking for fun and enjoyment, then the Jeep is going to get the win.

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I should have elaborated a bit more on intended use besides being a daily driver:
- eventually pull a small camper
- haul bigger dog around
- long road trips
- no off-roading that I can foresee but could see taking it on dirt roads/fire trails.
- need something that does well in the snow
- hauling stuff like lawn mower to get fixed, small home improvement materials, small landscaping projects
- love the old school stick shift
Everything on this list says Taco!
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I have come to the conclusion, you get a jeep because absolutely have to have it, doubt there are many that have tried to decide mid size truck or jeep! I have even sold my full size Ram quad since getting the jeep because I find simply dont need it. When hauling large stuff, will pick up a small utility trailer,
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I have a 2006 Taco extended cab TRD. I put a 6" lift and 35" MTs on it and I love my truck, She's paid off and has no issues other than a few minor cosmetic type things. I really enjoy my truck not to mention it has paid for itself several times over when ever I needed to haul something or make a dump run etc. But for the longest time I have been obsessed with Wranglers.

I picked up a very used 91 YJ and became instantly hooked... I will say that I didn't do my homework on the YJ and looking back I have put WAYYYY to much money into it.. So much that the more I did to it the more resentful I became that I didn't get a TJ or something "newer" Then I decided that I "needed" a new Jeep. I just got my 13 JKR and I am in love.... however, I couldn't part with my Taco... I still have her.. My JKR is now my DD and I'm about to start the fun mods (lift tires etc..) But the Taco will be there when I need her. I think the truck is more practical, but the jeep is way more enjoyable....
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Reliability is about the same I'd say to a reasonable amount(160k) but the taco will outlast it. They are both good. But as stated before, why buy a Tacoma when it gets worse gas mileage than a full size? Granted the 4banger gets good gas mileage, but who wants a squirrel powered car? I've put 1,000 miles on my dads crew can silverado helping him out at his camp. I averaged 19.5 mpg. Granted that's not that great at first glance but there was no highway there. On the highway I got 22.

Bottom line, if you need a truck, get a real one that has a large payload and a large tow capacity. If you want something that can just haul mulch, you'd have more fun with a wrangler with no top and doors pulling a utility trailer full of mulch. That's at least what I do currently
Boom. Couldn't have said it better myself. I no longer see the point in the new Tacoma, it's too big to be as versatile as the older designs and it isn't robustly built enough to handle what a full size pickup can. If it were me, I'd buy a full size pickup, probably a Ford F150 ecoboost, if I wanted a truck. I didn't.....so the JKUR is the best damn ride I could have ever asked for. I don't understand some of the comments about how the Taco is better in certain situations offroad, a stock Taco would still need a ton of mods to make it perform well for baja and it sure as hell won't articulate ANYWHERE near what a Rubicon can. I say go for the Jeep.
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I had a 2006 Tacoma 4 door TRD and now have a 2012 Wrangler. Both are great but a few things I have noticed... 1. The jeep is a lot more fun 2. Top down and doors off is awesome 3. Off road capabilities much better on the jeep. Only things I really miss about the Tacoma is the truck bed for moving random lawn items, trash or whatever and the 4 doors since I bought the 2 door wrangler. Hope that helps and good luck.
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A lot of us here (whether we admit it or not) would probably drive trucks if you could buy a topless Silverado or F-150. Until that day comes, I will own a Jeep.
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A lot of us here (whether we admit it or not) would probably drive trucks if you could buy a topless Silverado or F-150. Until that day comes, I will own a Jeep.
LOL Well I guess we all know why you bought a jeep. Me personally the fact that the top comes off if just a bonus to me.
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I owned a Taco 4dr. Nice truck, except as others pointed out, there really is no point to it. I bought it thinking it would be easier to park and maneuver than a full-size in my sort-of-urban environment. Boy was I disappointed! It is as long as many full-sizes, yet has less cargo and towing capacity. Seems like every time I needed a truck it just wasn't enough. Furthermore, it offers no benefits in purchase price or fuel economy over a full-size.
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LOL Well I guess we all know why you bought a jeep. Me personally the fact that the top comes off if just a bonus to me.
Well, and I guess you'd have to be able to take the doors off the Silverado/F150 too, and optional front locker and discos. There are an awful lot of cool features that make a Jeep a Jeep. But yeah, if I could get a 4x4 truck with 7,000 lbs of towing capacity, extended cab short bed, removable top and doors, I would have seriously considered that option instead of a Jeep.
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I like toyotas, we have a rav4, have owned a Tacoma and a camry. Very reliable but very boring. I enjoy driving the JKU so much more. I haven't had any issues either. Fit and finish is not as good from the start but that's not a big deal to me personally.

I think Tacoma still have rear drum brakes. Is it 1990? I can't see buying a new $30k vehicle with drum brakes out of principle...I think toyota is more worried about the stereo than functional (to me) upgrades. I thought about getting a Tacoma but decided on jeep and I'm happy. Gas mileage is similar. I love taking top and doors off!

I use a utility trailer for Home Depot runs and that works great for me.
Unless changed in last couple years the Sierras and Silverados also have rear drum in 1500 series unless get the Max 6.0 motor
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I recently sold my wrangler bc of a new job and was torn between Tacoma and Sierra. After comparing I went with Sierra. I can easily drive 600+ miles a week with job and Tacoma didn't save me much over Sierra while lacking many features and comfort and ability for towing and storage.
One day I'll buy another wrangler for weekends and summers where only drive with doors off.
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I just traded a 2011 Tacoma TRD Off-Road 4x4 for a 2012 Unlimited Rubicon simply because the JK was already built, with bumpers, rails, and lift. I got it for the same payments I was making on the Taco. The Tacoma was, and is a great truck. The only problem I had with it off-road, was it wasn't tall enough. I could have put a lift on it, but when I showed the wife the Rubicon, she decided I should buy it. I felt guilty for a few days, but I really like the Jeep. The Taco was getting 5 to 7 more miles per gallon of gas, it could haul a lot more than it should, and the towing capacity was 6500 lbs. I ran a lot of trails with built Jeeps, and the only trails I wouldn't go on were rated at 3.5 or higher.
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I told myself I would never own another Toyota. After owning 2 Tundras 07 and an 08, the trucks never gave me any trouble, the customer service from dealerships and the 1800 number customer service is whats making me anti-Toyota now. Tried to get my headlights adjusted on my 07 Tundra, on coming drivers thought I had my highbeams on. Service manager said those headlights are non-adjustable.

Noticed when I got my oil changed they were using 10w30 oil when it called for 0w20 or something like that, anyways it wasn't the same weight oil that was stated in the owners manual. Called the 1800 number and asked them what the iforce5.7 takes for oil and they told me, asked them if I use a 10w30 oil during changes ( whichever weight the dealership used) will it void my warranty. CS operator said "yes, it will definitely void the warranty because the engine needs a certain weight of oil and that it could already be voided because of this. Then I asked well then why is the dealership using the wrong weight of oil when I bring it into them for changes? CS operator said "oh, if the service manager signs off on it then it should be ok". Also asked about the headlights being adjusted... never got a straight answer... was told if I had a heavy load in the truck bed or aftermarket tires and rims etc etc. Never a straight answer and always put the blame on me until I told them what the service manager or service center did. 07 Tundra I had for 3 years and the 08 for 3 months. PHUC Toyota.

Only complaint on the Jeep so far is the clock loses time, about a minute or 2 a week. Had the Jeep for a little over a year now.

But from what you said you would need to use for I think a truck would be fine. My 2 cents is to stay away from Toyota though.
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Re: rear disc on a vehicle, I could care less. The question is whether the brakes perform well, not the particular technology they use. Rear drums have greater static clamping power than a similarly-sized rear disc. I would leave the engineering to the engineers and only worry about whether you can actually discern a difference in the performance.
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Re: rear disc on a vehicle, I could care less. The question is whether the brakes perform well, not the particular technology they use. Rear drums have greater static clamping power than a similarly-sized rear disc. I would leave the engineering to the engineers and only worry about whether you can actually discern a difference in the performance.
Only 30% or so of the breaking comes from the rear. For lots of folks rear disk brakes is more about maintenance then any other thing. Of course the fact that they disperse heat better is nice.

Well you do have the folks that want them just so they can say they have them.
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You do know only 30% or so of the breaking comes from the rear? For lots of folks rear disk brakes is more about maintenance then any other thing. Of course the fact that they disperse heat better is nice.

Well you do have the folks that want them just so they can say they have them.
Yeah I know the rear brakes do a lot less of the braking than the front. I would imagine that changes somewhat as the load in the back increases or you are towing something. I had a Silverado with rear drum and never had any noticeable brake fade. While I have plenty of suspicions about GM, I think their truck engineers are pretty darn good.
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Yeah I know the rear brakes do a lot less of the braking than the front. I would imagine that changes somewhat as the load in the back increases or you are towing something. I had a Silverado with rear drum and never had any noticeable brake fade. While I have plenty of suspicions about GM, I think their truck engineers are pretty darn good.
I agree.
They did have rear disc for a while but ran into a few issues. I have a 01 that has disc on the rear.
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Even though I don't have a JK, I love my 06 TJ but my dad has an 08 Tacoma off road edition and I love that as well. Even though he does have standard street tirees on it, it has 4x4 with the rear locker from the factory and that truck will go through pretty much anything that my jeep does and I've got a 3'' lift with 33's. Now obviously a jeep and a truck are alot different, but it depends on what youre going to be doing. If youre going to be carrying stuff and towing stuff, you may want to consider the tacoma. If not, then go with the jeep since they are more fun and easier to mod. I love both of these vehicles and I think you will be happy with your decision whichever way you go.

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Based on your list, a truck. Love the Jeep, but can't imagine not having a truck. Unlike some, I'd hardly say Chrysler is on par with Toyota quality.
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Based on your list, a truck. Love the Jeep, but can't imagine not having a truck. Unlike some, I'd hardly say Chrysler is on par with Toyota quality.
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Based on your list, a truck. Love the Jeep, but can't imagine not having a truck. Unlike some, I'd hardly say Chrysler is on par with Toyota quality.
FWIW - I had a 2007 Ram 1500 for 3 years that NEVER had an issue.

Back to topic. My 2 cents. I was in a similiar but not the same situation. I was young married, with a kid on the way and moving into a house. I needed to replace a car back in 1994. I looked at 2 loss leaders in the local paper, a Wrangler without a back seat and an Isuzu pickup since my ex wanted to use my existing car (89 t-top camaro) as the family vehicle. Both just under $10K. I listened to the advice of my father and brother about how I needed a truck for the house, and a small pickup got a few more MPG than a full size or the Jeep. Was told I needed to "grow up" and think of my family. I got the truck and regretted the decision ever since. Everytime I went to get a new vehicle, I couldn't-single dad with 2 kids made it kind of hard to justify forcing my 6' son in the back seat. When the kids moved back with their mom after 9 years, the first time I replaced my truck, I got my Jeep and I have never been happier.

Like my ex willing to use a Camaro as a family car, if its something you love, you will sacrifice for it and make it work. Only you know what you really want - don't let enyone talk you out of it.
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I should have elaborated a bit more on intended use besides being a daily driver:
- eventually pull a small camper
- haul bigger dog around
- long road trips
- no off-roading that I can foresee but could see taking it on dirt roads/fire trails.
- need something that does well in the snow
- hauling stuff like lawn mower to get fixed, small home improvement materials, small landscaping projects
- love the old school stick shift
It seems a pickup would serve your needs better than a Wrangler. As many have pointed out a full size truck will cost about the same as a Tacoma, get about the same mpg and tow and carry more than a Tacoma. The Taco takes a little less real state on the driveway, though.

I would also look at the Nissan Frontier, pretty similar to the Tacoma.
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How about a Honda Ridgeline?? Consumer Reports gave those top ratings.












Sorry. Couldn't help myself. OP- have you made your choice yet??
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i look at that lit and do all of that with my jku and trailer. 2 gsds in the jeep no problem. my 08 jku has been to florida from jersey and back many times and was comfortable for me.. the newer jeeps are even more comfortable. reliability for jeeps, imho, is not an issue either. get the one that makes you happy.
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Just curious, if you like toyos, why not look at an FJ? Its a good cross between the 2 and should do everything on your list.
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Just curious, if you like toyos, why not look at an FJ? Its a good cross between the 2 and should do everything on your list.
Blind spot on those things are terrible. Bigger side mirrors would probably help I guess.
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Saw one with red top on black body. Looked better.
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I think we have nailed it down... just own the jeep for weekends and fun with the doors and top off. Then have a truck for everything else!!!! Now its just that issue of where to find all the money needed to do such a thing.

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