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Old 06-05-2012, 06:33 AM   #331
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Am I right in thinking that there has been no info on any 2013 drivetrain changes?

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Old 06-05-2012, 06:39 AM   #332
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Am I right in thinking that there has been no info on any 2013 drivetrain changes?
Correct.....
Just a muffler change.

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Was the single windshield wiper nozzle really that much of a problem? (There are dual ones now).

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Old 06-05-2012, 07:06 AM   #333
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Just a muffler change.

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Was the single windshield wiper nozzle really that much of a problem? (There are dual ones now).
Probably more like a stupid law from Commiefornia, the single one seems to work fine to me
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:24 AM   #334
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On a side note..."MY" sources tell me that 0% financing will end on June 4th.

OK...not really a source...just some research on dealers "non Chrysler" websites...which would make sense if order banks open up on June 5th.
Yup, looks like 0% financing ended yesterday. A bit surprised that it ended on the 2012's. When 2013's can be ordered today. Maybe something else will pop up by the end of the month since that is the close of Q2.
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:35 AM   #335
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Understood...
Honestly, I don't think people were waiting on 2013's for the improvements as much as it simply may be a case of timing for finances, color choices, or letting the bugs get worked out of the engine/tranny change.

Me...I could go 2012 or 2013. If I find a good deal on a 2012 with what I want (which is the problem), I'll take it. If not, I'll order The only new features I care about are the auto-dimming mirror (for the power supply), saddle cloth in the Sports, and the foot-well light.....none are really deal breakers in my book.

The problem right now is that every 2012 Sport S on the lot is black (which I don't want), and many don't have LSD (which I do want). And any 4 door that is on the lot seems to have 3.21's.
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Similar here also. None of the new features float my boat.
I even like 2012 wheels on the Sahara.
I want Auto, 3.73 & LSD as a minimum.
I will admit I do like the idea of an easier soft so much so I would
even consider the Dual Top option instead of the 3 piece top option.
Found a 2012 but 150 miles away that has my interest if a rebate was offered
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:47 AM   #336
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Does anyone know if Jeep is going to finally update the door panels for half doors? You can order with half doors but they come with the 2010 and earlier interior trim style? Wanting half doors bad... But it doesn't look right! Even the 2012 owners manual shows an updated interior trim panel! What's the deal?
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:16 AM   #337
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Yup, looks like 0% financing ended yesterday. A bit surprised that it ended on the 2012's. When 2013's can be ordered today. Maybe something else will pop up by the end of the month since that is the close of Q2.
Check again. I'm showing otherwise on DealerCONNECT.
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:19 AM   #338
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I've never taken the top up or down by myself yet. For those of you that have, would a spring assist system really make a big difference? Is the top on a 4 door really that heavy? I don't think I've heard anyone complain about that before.
I have an '11 JKU with dual tops. Put the soft top on for the first time this year - yes, it was a PITA the very first time, and that can mostly be blamed on the combination of poorly written instructions, Wrangler newb-ness, and 50 degree weather.

Since the thing has stretched out and its gotten warmer, I do not find it too challenging to lower - even by myself. I'm a fairly standard 5'10", normal build guy.

I am super curious, but would hate to have whatever 'spring system' that's been implemented add to clunkiness in the cargo area. Seems like more to break to me.

Personally, I'd rather just have the impossible - soft windows that don't scratch (no matter the usage).
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:33 AM   #339
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2013 colors

Do we know for certain what colors can be ordered. My dealer is telling me no Gecko.
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:42 AM   #340
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Will NAV be an option on the 2013 Sport S?
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:43 AM   #341
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And Like I said above, I will be posting invoice as soon as it becomes available. And my 1-2% under invoice deal for forum members still applies on the 2013s.
Pat, I live in AZ. would it be possible to factory order the 2013 jeep though you for out of state delivery? Or would it be best to negotiate with a local dealer to get the same 1-2% discount?
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:09 AM   #342
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Pat, I live in AZ. would it be possible to factory order the 2013 jeep though you for out of state delivery? Or would it be best to negotiate with a local dealer to get the same 1-2% discount?
I will always tell you to try with a local dealer since it would benefit you to establish a relationship for service/warranty work. Once invoice pricing comes up you can use that to neogtiate your best deal.
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:13 AM   #343
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Yup, looks like 0% financing ended yesterday. A bit surprised that it ended on the 2012's. When 2013's can be ordered today. Maybe something else will pop up by the end of the month since that is the close of Q2.
0% for 36 on Wrangler/Wrangler Unlimited is still going. I wouldn't expect any big rebates, seems that Jeep finally figured out how to keep supply and demand in line. I really don't think you will see 20,000 Wranglers lying around in august when the 13s start to hit.
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:16 AM   #344
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Is this the new brown?
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:17 AM   #345
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Check again. I'm showing otherwise on DealerCONNECT.


I checked the Jeep website this morning, and 0% was gone. I just checked again, and it is there again.

Nice!
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:35 AM   #346
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So basically i can't order a Commando Green until I see it on a unit, which means beginning of August... This blows...
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:40 AM   #347
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Is this the new brown?
Nope, that was from the 70th Annv Wrangler.

Rugged Brown is darker...you can see it on Ram trucks and the 2012 GC Overland.






I'm not a fan of Rugged Brown...BUT....I've seen some good points on it.

#1 It is brown...so...you don't worry about it getting dirty.
#2 If you get it with tan interior, and maybe some gold stickers...it will have a real retro look to it.

Reminds me of my uncle's 78 Trans Am that looked like this:
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:45 AM   #348
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Nope, that was from the 70th Annv Wrangler.

Rugged Brown is darker...you can see it on Ram trucks and the 2012 GC Overland.
That looks very nice to me. I'm happy with my '12 though, not enough to make me want to change.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:16 AM   #349
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I'm still waitng for the invoice pricing to become available on dealerconnect.

On another note I don't think dealers will be getting a huge allocation of Wranglers this first run. We were only allocated 27 total, May sales 45.
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PAT, do you know if the seat changes include the rear seat??
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PAT, do you know if the seat changes include the rear seat??
No, I haven't seen anything in the literature. Maybe someone else will chime in on that.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:53 AM   #352
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Pat, any idea if Billet is orderable right away and/or when Rock Lobster becomes available?
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Pat, any idea if Billet is orderable right away and/or when Rock Lobster becomes available?
From what I understand Billet will be available in a few weeks or so, no info on rock lobster(craziest name for a color yet, IMO).
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:16 AM   #354
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OFF the subject....

Can someone help me: i have a 2007 Jeep wrangler sahara. Every time I go uphill the rpms go as low as 1500rpms i step on the gas all the way and the rpms wont go up or the speed at that, i have to let go of the gas and then step on it to make them rub up and go, does any one have any tips on how to fix this problem, please send me a message. Thanks..
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:18 AM   #355
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Frilopo, just start a new thread bro...
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:19 AM   #356
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Anyone know what the cloth seat material looks like? Is the "pattern" the same as 2012? Pics?
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:20 AM   #357
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They rust. FAST! It's rather shocking to see a two year old, used Jeep with significant rust on the muffler. We noticed and painted the mufflers on ours with a high heat paint right after we got them home.

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Old 06-05-2012, 11:37 AM   #358
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They rust. FAST! It's rather shocking to see a two year old, used Jeep with significant rust on the muffler. We noticed and painted the mufflers on ours with a high heat paint right after we got them home.
Interesting that you mention this. In another thread, someone with a new Altitude Edition had that muffler painted as well.

Hey...maybe a new muffler will add a couple of extra ponies?
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:12 PM   #359
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I will always tell you to try with a local dealer since it would benefit you to establish a relationship for service/warranty work. Once invoice pricing comes up you can use that to neogtiate your best deal.
I am looking for a local dealer (for a family member) that particpates in Chrylers' Affiliate Rewards Program with a factory order in the Gainesville area in the near future. The FL FieldsAuto dealership is a bit of a challenge to get to from Gainesville, but it is something I am looking at. I will also talk with the dealer that I purchased my new Jeep a few years ago. Maybe at the end of the month the dealerships are more agreeable?

Would be nice to have a sticky listing the dealers that are willing to to go the Affilate Rewards route.
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Would be nice to have a sticky listing the dealers that are willing to to go the Affilate Rewards route.
The list of dealers who don't participate in the Affiliate Rewards program would be a LOT shorter!

Has anybody run into a non-participating dealer yet?

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