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Old 05-23-2013, 05:49 PM   #8641
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Multiple dealers have now told me orders are closed. Could it just be a Mid-Atlantic/East Coast thing?
Based on my experiences, I would trust Pat more than the dealers, lol

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Multiple dealers have now told me orders are closed. Could it just be a Mid-Atlantic/East Coast thing?

Order it from Pat, fly out and drive her home. That's what I did

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DC Dennis and I have been PMing. Ordering shut off last night. 14s will open in June, IIRC June 5th.
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Order it from Pat, fly out and drive her home. That's what I did
You made it easy, all I had to do was pick you up and show you a few things. You did all the hard work.
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You made it easy, all I had to do was pick you up and show you a few things. You did all the hard work.
X2 thats what I did as well and will do it again
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:49 PM   #8646
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Anyone heard from Milous yet on the 2014's? Seems about that time of the year again!
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Well today I spotted a 2013 wrangler Sahara unlimited black with saddle leather that I seen on a truck parked outside the dealership unloading and fell in love at first sight.

I had a 2009 jku, sold it and got the 2012 jku, sold it for a 2013 camaro ss in January, I just was missing my Jeep and and well the 2013 Sahara just called to me and said come back.

Traded the camaro and leased the 2013 Sahara for no lie $10.88 a month for 39 months.
It pays off to have excellent credit and my camaro was paid for so a lease was a no brainier. I love this Jeep.
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Well today I spotted a 2013 wrangler Sahara unlimited black with saddle leather that I seen on a truck parked outside the dealership unloading and fell in love at first sight.

I had a 2009 jku, sold it and got the 2012 jku, sold it for a 2013 camaro ss in January, I just was missing my Jeep and and well the 2013 Sahara just called to me and said come back.

Traded the camaro and leased the 2013 Sahara for no lie $10.88 a month for 39 months.
It pays off to have excellent credit and my camaro was paid for so a lease was a no brainier. I love this Jeep.
Wow that's a lot of tax!! Congrats. Upload pic!
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Hey guys, first time poster, and potential first time wrangler buyer. Love the site, I've gotten tons of great info.

I've been working with a dealer locally. Started running things like trade-in value on my truck yesterday. I'm trying to get a base sport model so I can do mods myself, and honestly because it's what I can afford. Power would be nice, but not willing to go to Sport S to get it unless they give me a serious deal. They showed me a discount of $270 in the numbers they ran, and explained that it would be a low discount, with no wiggle room, simply because we were going for a base model. Made sense to me, but is this true? I've been scouring the web for years looking at jeeps and it seems like I always find random dealers who give more like $1k off MSRP, even though they are base models.

I was also curious on negotiation of the trade-in offer. I would say it was more fair-lowball on their part, probably keeping in mind how bad I want a jeep, and obviously they need to make money. Have you guys been able to get more value on your trade from where they start or is that pretty much that? Thinking about going to other dealerships to get an idea on what they'll give me also to use as some leverage to get the best deal.

I also got to see an anvil 10A in person for the first time. Great color, trying my best to not pull the trigger in case they open it up for all wrangler models early in the 2014 life cycle.

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Hey guys, first time poster, and potential first time wrangler buyer. Love the site, I've gotten tons of great info.

I've been working with a dealer locally. Started running things like trade-in value on my truck yesterday. I'm trying to get a base sport model so I can do mods myself, and honestly because it's what I can afford. Power would be nice, but not willing to go to Sport S to get it unless they give me a serious deal. They showed me a discount of $270 in the numbers they ran, and explained that it would be a low discount, with no wiggle room, simply because we were going for a base model. Made sense to me, but is this true? I've been scouring the web for years looking at jeeps and it seems like I always find random dealers who give more like $1k off MSRP, even though they are base models.

I was also curious on negotiation of the trade-in offer. I would say it was more fair-lowball on their part, probably keeping in mind how bad I want a jeep, and obviously they need to make money. Have you guys been able to get more value on your trade from where they start or is that pretty much that? Thinking about going to other dealerships to get an idea on what they'll give me also to use as some leverage to get the best deal.

I also got to see an anvil 10A in person for the first time. Great color, trying my best to not pull the trigger in case they open it up for all wrangler models early in the 2014 life cycle.

Thanks in advance.
You can get 1% under invoice with either an affiliate rewards (if your employer is an affiliate), or with a tread lightly membership.

Tread Lightly at the $100 level http://treadlightly.org/join/individual/

$270 off of MSRP is ridiculous. That dealer doesn't want your business, IMHO. If you're anywhere near Chicago, I would recommend forum member Pat @ Fields Motors.
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You can get 1% under invoice with either an affiliate rewards (if your employer is an affiliate), or with a tread lightly membership.

Tread Lightly at the $100 level Tread Lightly – Individual

$270 off of MSRP is ridiculous. That dealer doesn't want your business, IMHO. If you're anywhere near Chicago, I would recommend forum member Pat @ Fields Motors.
I agree, look into Tread lightly, that will give you a bigger discount and leave a small profit for the dealer too. A fair deal IMHO. And indeed contact Pat if your dealer doesn't accommodate your TL discount.
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Thanks for the quick input guys.

I've been doing more work on my end and I'm starting to think I'll just drive a little(few hundred miles) to get the best deal. Just looking at online prices it seems as if I can do much better. Working with Pat would be great, but I think it's a bit too far. I'm in Central Arkansas.

Any other advice is welcome, I'll post with updates and probably more questions. Thanks again.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:29 PM   #8654
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You can get 1% under invoice with either an affiliate rewards (if your employer is an affiliate), or with a tread lightly membership.

Tread Lightly at the $100 level Tread Lightly – Individual

$270 off of MSRP is ridiculous. That dealer doesn't want your business, IMHO. If you're anywhere near Chicago, I would recommend forum member Pat @ Fields Motors.
1% under isn't squat for a 2013 this late in the game. The 10A should even be easily negotiated down at this point, they are not a limited edition other than being limited to just this year.
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1% under isn't squat for a 2013 this late in the game. The 10A should even be easily negotiated down at this point, they are not a limited edition other than being limited to just this year.
This late in the year kind of makes those 10As a limited edition. We want to work with our regular sales guy (a friend of ours) and noone will part with 10As that they have on the lot (I get affiliate discount). I think they're holding them as showpieces at this point. I should have tried for early lease turn-in a bit sooner and I could have ordered one.
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. I was also curious on negotiation of the trade-in offer. I would say it was more fair-lowball on their part, probably keeping in mind how bad I want a jeep, and obviously they need to make money. Have you guys been able to get more value on your trade from where they start or is that pretty much that? Thinking about going to other dealerships to get an idea on what they'll give me also to use as some leverage to get the best deal.
When I ordered my 10A, I traded in my truck and I had a value in mind. The dealership appraised it, and gave me their number ... which was exactly 2000$ below the number I wanted. I was pretty honest about it and told them the number I had in mind. After a little push and pull, the finance manager asked me if that difference was going to hold things up / derail the deal and I told them if they came up, I would sign the sale agreement right then and there.

I walked out with a signed purchase agreement.
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2013 WRANGLER PRICE INCREASE


SUBJECT: 2013 MY JEEP WRANGLER PRICING ACTION
Base Price Increase
Revised Base Price
Vehicle Line
Model
$MSRP
$MSRP
Wrangler
Sport 4x4
JKJL72 $100
$22,395
Unlimited Sport 4x4
JKJM74 $200
$25,995
Unlimited Sahara 4x4
JKJP74 $100
$31,495
Unlimited Rubicon 4x4
JKJS74 $100
$34,295
Unlimited RHD 4x4
JKUM74 $100
$30,295


Bonafide sold orders will not be affected by this price increase.
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This late in the year kind of makes those 10As a limited edition. We want to work with our regular sales guy (a friend of ours) and noone will part with 10As that they have on the lot (I get affiliate discount). I think they're holding them as showpieces at this point. I should have tried for early lease turn-in a bit sooner and I could have ordered one.
Your correct on that, i've made countless offers for a few 10A models and none of the dealers here in florida will budge on pricing. so by the way their trying to do business and get top dollar for the 10A models, i am now ready to wait a 2014 model. i might even possibly order one, but no way in hell will i pay close to $50 for a jeep wrangler rubicon....
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2013 WRANGLER PRICE INCREASE


SUBJECT: 2013 MY JEEP WRANGLER PRICING ACTION
Base Price Increase
Revised Base Price
Vehicle Line
Model
$MSRP
$MSRP
Wrangler
Sport 4x4
JKJL72 $100
$22,395
Unlimited Sport 4x4
JKJM74 $200
$25,995
Unlimited Sahara 4x4
JKJP74 $100
$31,495
Unlimited Rubicon 4x4
JKJS74 $100
$34,295
Unlimited RHD 4x4
JKUM74 $100
$30,295


Bonafide sold orders will not be affected by this price increase.
I was wondering about sold units. I asked that in another thread and someone misunderstood my question.

Auto trans went up $75 too.
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Pricing this late in the model year?

Does anyone have a sense of the discounting that dealers are likely to have this late in the 2013 model year on an Unlimited Sport S? I'm in Colorado, and of course the dealers say "this is a very popular vehicle here so we don't have to discount much."

I qualify for the Affiliate Program and the $500 recent college grad discount. Would it be best to negotiate my price before mentioning the grad discount?
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Does anyone have a sense of the discounting that dealers are likely to have this late in the 2013 model year on an Unlimited Sport S? I'm in Colorado, and of course the dealers say "this is a very popular vehicle here so we don't have to discount much."

I qualify for the Affiliate Program and the $500 recent college grad discount. Would it be best to negotiate my price before mentioning the grad discount?
YES! But, beware, they might give you numbers that they will say already accounted for that when you do bring it up.
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So after reading as man pages of this I could, I am still unsure, as I get ready to buy a 2013 right now, what the invoice price is...
For a '13 Sport, AC & Automatic
Any help?

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So after reading as man pages of this I could, I am still unsure, as I get ready to buy a 2013 right now, what the invoice price is...
For a '13 Sport, AC & Automatic
Any help?

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The spreadsheet on page one should still be active, or you can see invoice pricing on Edmunds or other websites. Jeep doesn't have any big year end incentives for the Wrangler, so good luck!

1% under invoice (affiliate pricing through tread lightly) is a good place to start, but you might be able to do better due to the model year end.
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So.... Inv/Msrp
Base Price = $21715/22295
AC = $895/995
Auto = $1068/1125

Total invoice (dealer price?) = $23,678
I have a dealer 100 mis away that says he'll go $23187, nearest local guy is at a grand more.. Do I take the other guys quote in and see if the local guy can match it?
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So.... Inv/Msrp
Base Price = $21715/22295
AC = $895/995
Auto = $1068/1125

Total invoice (dealer price?) = $23,678
I have a dealer 100 mis away that says he'll go $23187, nearest local guy is at a grand more.. Do I take the other guys quote in and see if the local guy can match it?
Ask him to go half way. 3 hours of your time is worth something. Buying it from them saves you 200 miles
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What was the FINAL PRODUCTION date for the 2013? Not the start of 2014, but the final for 2013. Thx
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What was the FINAL PRODUCTION date for the 2013? Not the start of 2014, but the final for 2013. Thx
Middle of July. That is the usual model change time. Not exact but I hope that helps.
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2013 build out was July 19. 2014 launch on the 22nd.

These are the dates listed in the 2014 information thread by a long time jeep insider who always provides accurate information. I am simply reposting what he told us.
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