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Old 06-08-2013, 06:03 AM   #331
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Just curious nothing more, I was wondering when was the last day for ordering a 2013?

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Old 06-08-2013, 06:26 AM   #332
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Just curious nothing more, I was wondering when was the last day for ordering a 2013?
First week of May was the last allocation period.

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Old 06-08-2013, 06:30 AM   #333
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Pat I may come by early in the morning to review the available options for 2014
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:06 AM   #334
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Jeep $500 Rebate in mail?

How can I get one of these? In the past few years i have randomly got one for $500 and one for $750. Are they still sending these out?
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:28 AM   #335
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Hey everyone (mainly, Pat & Milous :-) )!

Quick question on pricing for tops...

From the info in Pat's post on page 1:

•Body Color 3 Piece Hard Top $2185($1945)
•Dual Top Group $2185($1945)

The body color 3 piece hard top went to a discounted price IF you selected the dual top group for 2013.

Does the same hold true for 2014? If so, does anyone know what the MSRP and invoice are for the body color 3 piece hard top after applying dual top group?

Thanks!

Dual Top Group is $2185 msrp and $1945 invoice

Body color top is $1795 msrp and $1598 invoice.

When I build and price a wrangler with both options it does not show a discount, however, I think it's just a glitch and a discount will be reflected in the final price. Otherwise, Jeep would owe you a black hard top, a painted hard top and a premium soft top. We all know that's not going to happen.
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:50 AM   #336
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Has anyone ever seen a Rugged Brown JK? I sure haven't but would like to. You'd think they'd have a ton of paint left to carry over to this year...
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:10 AM   #337
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Has anyone ever seen a Rugged Brown JK? I sure haven't but would like to. You'd think they'd have a ton of paint left to carry over to this year...
They're out there, I own one and saw another driving around last weekend. Dealers around me all seem to have 1-3 on the lot.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:12 AM   #338
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Has anyone ever seen a Rugged Brown JK? I sure haven't but would like to. You'd think they'd have a ton of paint left to carry over to this year...
Search the forum for a thread called "Rugged Brown Photos", there are some in there!
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I clicked the link but didn't see anything but head issues and a ridiculous looking Hummer. What were you attempting to show? Do 2012's have oil coolers?
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Sounds like some or all do but they may have ongoing revision. Also i found out the oil pump is controlled by engine management allowing software changes to alter how lubrication is managed
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Now we just need the Photoshop gods to join in with renderings of the new colors. I'm thinking I'll end up with a JKUR in Amp'd, unless it ends up being more yellow than orange.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:26 AM   #342
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True Blue
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Welcome back, Milous! I have you and Pat to thank for the CGUR I'll take delivery for next week. So glad I ordered before 2013 closed!
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Now we just need the Photoshop gods to join in with renderings of the new colors. I'm thinking I'll end up with a JKUR in Amp'd, unless it ends up being more yellow than orange.
I could do some mockups in Photoshop, but the colors are going to look a lot different in the real world once they're in direct light.
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Old 06-08-2013, 10:12 AM   #344
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I saw rugged brown and imo it is like the black forest green just brown... don't see the brown until the sun hits it just right
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Well went this morning to order. The manager who does ordering is not there on weekends and no one else is authorized to do it. Sometimes it stinks with small town dealers.

Back to try on Monday and be like number 10,000 in line. Hello October...
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Old 06-08-2013, 10:50 AM   #347
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Well went this morning to order. The manager who does ordering is not there on weekends and no one else is authorized to do it. Sometimes it stinks with small town dealers.

Back to try on Monday and be like number 10,000 in line. Hello October...
No worries. I ordered last year on the first open day and got mine a month after people who ordered theirs 2 months after I did. It has more to do with your location, color choice, trim level and options then what day you ran to the dealer.
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How can I get one of these? In the past few years i have randomly got one for $500 and one for $750. Are they still sending these out?
I just got 2 in the mail, so yes. Go to jeep.com and sign up for brochures.
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Old 06-08-2013, 10:55 AM   #349
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And, most of the dealers don't even know they can order now. I called a few and they told me another 5 to 6 weeks. I asked them to humor me and double-check and sure enough they were wrong!
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Old 06-08-2013, 10:56 AM   #350
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Pat,
I appreciate all the intel you provide. It's refreshing. I am in Memphis. Is it reasonable, logistically, to buy directly from you?

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Old 06-08-2013, 11:07 AM   #351
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Thanks for your time Pat. Looking forward to remaining a Fields customer. A relationship that goes back to 2000.
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Old 06-08-2013, 11:11 AM   #352
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I wonder if Amp'd is going to be like the color off the Dodge Razor concept - that was a great color

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Old 06-08-2013, 11:13 AM   #353
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Pat, I sent you an email last night. Are you able to quote a price to me (or others) via email? Just seems more efficient. THANKS!
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No worries. It won't matter if you order now or Monday, maybe even next week, you'll still get it the same time. I ordered last year on the first day it was open and got it about a month after people who ordered a month after me did.
It probably won't be that bad this year. Chrysler changed some of their guidelines for ordering.

Chrysler is now auditing all customer sold orders to make sure they aren't fictitious. Basically if a dealer places fake orders and the vehicles aren't delivered to the customer that is on file, Chrysler will remove their sold order ability. The number is 25%. If an audit comes back showing 25% or more of the sold orders are fictitious then they will lose the ability to place a sold order. And if it keeps happening they will start losing some of their allocation.
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I just got 2 in the mail, so yes. Go to jeep.com and sign up for brochures.
What brochures do you have to sign up for I got the wrangler unlimited one a few months ago and it didnt have one with it.
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I ordered brochures just now and selected "1 month or less." I'll update on when I receive the brochures and what they do/do not contain.
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Not sure if this can be answered or not here in the forum but it may be good to know bargaining wise. At 2% under invoice and if the customer has Chrysler Affiliate Rewards how much can the dealer expect to make as profit on a new sale?

Also, as a dealer do you add doc fees onto the final negotiated price or included?

I'm just trying to be fair to my dealer, I know they need to make money but I want to have a number in mind on profit when discussing my trade.
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As a continuation on what MilkMan asked, when you can achieve 2% under invoice for the vehicle, tax tags and fees are added from that number correct? For instance, if the negotiated price of said Jeep came to be a fictional number of 28,000 at 2% under invoice. The tax tags and fees are then added to this number of 28 correct?
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Not sure if this can be answered or not here in the forum but it may be good to know bargaining wise. At 2% under invoice and if the customer has Chrysler Affiliate Rewards how much can the dealer expect to make as profit on a new sale?

Also, as a dealer do you add doc fees onto the final negotiated price or included?

I'm just trying to be fair to my dealer, I know they need to make money but I want to have a number in mind on profit when discussing my trade.
Here's how to look at it. Built into invoice is a 3% dealer holdback originally created to help dealers pay floor plan costs and as a way to sell new vehicles at invoice and still make a profit.
Keep in mind I am only talking about front end profit, not back end profit such as the sale of ext. service contracts, gap insurance, etc.

If a vehicle has an invoice of $30,000 than the holdback amount is $900, that's pretty simple math that we all should be able to do.
That makes true net on the vehicle $29,100. Anything over that is front end profit. Remember out of the profit, the dealer pays a salesman his mini comission of ~$100, the dealer has an internal charge for the detail of ~$50 and the dealer should pay for a full tank of gas ~$65-75. So for a dealer when all is said and done, even at $200 over net, dealer is still making $0.

Now if a dealer is offering 2% under invoice and the additional 1% AR discount then the dealer is making out ok. Reason for this is dealers are reimbursed 2% of invoice when they honor the AR program. So, you will get 3% under, and the dealer get reimbursed 2%. Taking our $30,000 invoice and $900 in holdback you will pay $29100, the dealer will get back 2% or $600. Again out of that $600 comes comission, detail and hopefully gas.

Per the AR rules, a dealer can not add any additional destination/delivery charges. It does state the dealer can charge the doc fee as long as they charge it to every customer. The AR discount is taken off of final invoice which does include the destination fee.
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Just placed my order for my Flame Red Spot S!

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