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Old 07-15-2013, 09:38 PM   #2161
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Good point...
I just posted them to basically warn the members that the Leather/Audio package might not make them completely happy as the Katzkin is not 100% leather all the way around. Some folks don't care as the leather on the front is softer and a little more comfortable. For those that want it, I would not order it from the factory and would have a dealer install it cheaper.

Since I joined this forum, I have always tried to "tell it how it is" and not "beat around the bush", this is one of those instances where I think the Katzkin from the factory is a total rip off. Just my $.02...

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Old 07-15-2013, 09:40 PM   #2162
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So these pics are the leather trim package? I thought the seats were black or saddle... did I miss something? I actually like they color of those.. will look much better stitched. Do you have any pics of the Mopar Leather upgrade?
Those pics are Mopars Katzkin leather upgrade that we install in house. They are leather on the front and vinyl on the back and sides. I was just trying to show that the Katzkin is not 100% leather, just like the factory is not 100% leather.

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Those pics are Mopars Katzkin leather upgrade that we install in house. They are leather on the front and vinyl on the back and sides. I was just trying to show that the Katzkin is not 100% leather, just like the factory is not 100% leather.
I'm glad you posted that, Pat... I always thought Katzskin was all leather... And that matters to me because I've had a leather/vinyl combo before in a Ford, and I hated it because it was clearly 2 different textures/looks ...very cheap look and feel. Again, that was in a Ford from the factory.
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Those pics are Mopars Katzkin leather upgrade that we install in house. They are leather on the front and vinyl on the back and sides. I was just trying to show that the Katzkin is not 100% leather, just like the factory is not 100% leather.
Thanks once again Pat.
Ouch, Mopar Premium Sound and Leather is then $900 more for subjectively better (possibly less durable) leather and still plenty of vinyl, .. bummer
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Just wanted to get in on the action of page 73 of the information thread... no new news
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:52 AM   #2166
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Can anyone help with a couple of noob questions? Am looking into a:

Wrangler Unlimited Sport

$26990($26276) includes destination $995($1045 in HI)

23C manual trans N/C
24C $1275($1135)
23S $29590 ($28590)
24S $30865($29725)

Question: What's the difference between the 23S and 24S? Auto vs. manual?

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Is the Dual Top Group N/A with C package $2185($1945) the same as
Black 3 Piece Hardtop $995($886) + Premium Black Sunrider Soft Top $400($356)? I can't see how considering the price difference?

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I've not seen full leather in a normal price range factory car in years (Not sure about BMW, Mercedes, Infinity, Audi, etc.). They all have vinyl on sides and back--most of the new ones you have look really close to tell.
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Regarding first question: yes, auto vs manual

Regarding second question: your Jeep comes with a Sunrider soft top. You can pay $400 to upgrade to a Premium Sunrider soft top. You can pay $995 to upgrade FROM the soft top to JUST a hard top. In both cases you are only paying the difference in price for a better option. This is like upgrading from the U130 stereo to the U430 or U730.

If you want Dual tops, you have to pay the full price for one top, but because you Re buying a new Jeep, they still give you a discount from the Mopar parts store price. This is why the Dual Top package is usually about $1700 and the Premium Dual Top group is just under $2200. You're paying for an upgraded soft top plus a hard top.

Rocket science, I know, but they've found that people will pay for upgrades, so they offer them for a price
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if you are asking jeep for a brochure do you have to specify the year somehow or are they just switched over to the 2014 brochure's completely?
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if you are asking jeep for a brochure do you have to specify the year somehow or are they just switched over to the 2014 brochure's completely?
Ordered mine a month or so ago and got it last week. It was a 2013 brochure. My guess would be that you won't be able to get a 2014 one till closer to the official launch in September.
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Ordered mine a month or so ago and got it last week. It was a 2013 brochure. My guess would be that you won't be able to get a 2014 one till closer to the official launch in September.
I'm still waiting on my $500 dollar coupon.....
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Good afternoon. I have spent a lot of time trying to learn more about the leather options on the Wrangler so I wanted to share what I have been told and hopefully it helps out. It is disappointing to me how little information Chrysler shares with their dealerships especially in the first couple months of the new model year. I have spoken with several dealers (without any luck), spoken with Katzkin and spoken directly with Chrysler. Chrysler was kind enough to share this image with me.

It is an image of what they refer to as premium leather which has the increased leather content often referred to as a Premium Kit and it uses the Tuscany (softer) leather instead of the standard leather. It is black (face) on black (sides and back) with black stitching. If you order this there will be a Jeep logo on the seat, I am told, but the image they sent me doesn't have the logo embroidered.

Katzkin offers 2 different leather content options and a 2 types of leathers, standard and tuscany (the softer leather). They also have options such as perforated leather and some exotic textures that look like alligator n' such - so if you really want to go into detail just give Katzkin a call.

At my Katzkin dealer they offer the Katzkin products in kits they refer to as Deluxe, Premium and Tuscany. Below are the installed prices from a Katzkin dealer in Ontario, Canada. I am looking at a 2-tone design. Adding contrast stitching adds $59.00 and can be a really nice touch.

Katzkin Deluxe (2-tone) $1470.00
Front seats have leather on the faces and vinyl on the sides and back
Rear seats have leather on the face insert (butt and lower back) only and vinyl on the rest

Katzkin Premium (2-tone) $1606.00
Front seats have leather on the faces and vinyl on the sides and back
Rear seats have leather on the faces
Approximately 40% more leather due to the additional leather on the rear seats

Katzkin Tuscany (2-tone) $1686.00
Tuscany is a much softer leather and feels like a nice couch leather
Same leather placement as the Premium

They will offer full leather kits, including the sides and the rear of the seats but this is not common. The fitment is difficult because the vinyl stretches better than leather and the vinyl should clean up better keeping in mind anyone sitting in the back will likely have their feet on that surface and those feet might be muddy. Different dealers refer to the kit levels differently. It is best to tell them exactly where you want leather and where you want vinyl. Then select the leather type, your colours and your stitching/piping.

My plan is to order the cloth seats with the seat heaters from the factory. Then head on over to my local Katzkin dealer to have the Premium 2-tone leather installed. I'm thinking black sides/back to tie in with the black interior and a lighter colour on the front so the seats are cooler when I have the roof off. And of course red stitching to match the Flame red exterior.
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Just a simple question: What are the different types of "orders"? (Would like to find out what a "sold order" is.)
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I just got an email with a coupon. It expires 8/31. Do I need to take delivery by then or just order by then?
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I just got an email with a coupon. It expires 8/31. Do I need to take delivery by then or just order by then?
I would think pay for it by then.
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I just got an email with a coupon. It expires 8/31. Do I need to take delivery by then or just order by then?
Must take delivery by 8/31.
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Just a simple question: What are the different types of "orders"? (Would like to find out what a "sold order" is.)
There are really only 2 types of orders:

Sold Order- customer wants a specific color and options and wants it ordered as sold to them

Stock Order/Dealer Order - an order placed by the dealer for inventory and to have on the lot to try and sell.
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Pat or Milous, can either of you confirm or deny that Copperhead is now available to order ??? a member on here went onto the 2014 order waiting room claiming that he just ordered a 2014 copperhead JKUR today. now is this guy a retard or is this legit ???? If so then i'll be contacting Brian tomorrow to place my order.
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Pat or Milous, can either of you confirm or deny that Copperhead is now available to order ??? a member on here went onto the 2014 order waiting room claiming that he just ordered a 2014 copperhead JKUR today. now is this guy a retard or is this legit ???? If so then i'll be contacting Brian tomorrow to place my order.
As far as I can tell, Copperhead is not available to order. All I see is the same colors that we already know can be ordered.
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As far as I can tell, Copperhead is not available to order. All I see is the same colors that we already know can be ordered.
Alrighty please keep us updated. i'd love to order one tomorrow if i can !!!
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Alrighty please keep us updated. i'd love to order one tomorrow if i can !!!
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, Don!
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I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, Don!
Thanks Starbrite !! like i said whichever is available first i'll end up getting.
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Pat or Milous, can either of you confirm or deny that Copperhead is now available to order ??? a member on here went onto the 2014 order waiting room claiming that he just ordered a 2014 copperhead JKUR today. now is this guy a retard or is this legit ???? If so then i'll be contacting Brian tomorrow to place my order.
i about jumped out of my office chair and ran down to the dealer when i read this/that on the thread.

glad pat cleared it up

My official guess for when copperhead will become available....End of september

I see rams driving around in copperhead and i start to drool thinking of the color on a wrangler...going to be super sharp
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i about jumped out of my office chair and ran down to the dealer when i read this/that on the thread.

glad pat cleared it up

My official guess for when copperhead will become available....End of september

I see rams driving around in copperhead and i start to drool thinking of the color on a wrangler...going to be super sharp
i spoke to the guy via PM. he claims its legit and he'll post paperwork up when he can.... hopefully this is the real deal.
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i spoke to the guy via PM. he claims its legit and he'll post paperwork up when he can.... hopefully this is the real deal.
my honest guess is that the dealer wanted a "sale" and is going to sit on the guys paperwork until it does become available.

I really hope this dealer is being honest, because that means i can order my jeep this weekend and this guys deposit wont be held for 4 months
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my honest guess is that the dealer wanted a "sale" and is going to sit on the guys paperwork until it does become available.

I really hope this dealer is being honest, because that means i can order my jeep this weekend and this guys deposit wont be held for 4 months
Well lets see what this guy has to say. I'm sure he'll post up his paperwork and info when he can.
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I'm in the copperhead boat too, and was just about to run to the dealer when I read that! I'm also wanting the x package--Is that available yet? Thanks to everyone providing this info.
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I have read quite a bit of this thread in hopes of answering a few questions I have. If I missed the answers somewhere throughout, go easy on me.

1. I see the 14 MY colors listed on page 1, I see a list of discontinued colors from MY 13. If a current MY color is not listed as discontinued, is it safe to assume that color will be returning? I.E. Gecko?

2. Does anyone know when we will see the 14 MY appear on the Jeep site, and or get the full list of available colors, or is this it?

3. Does anyone know if the Rubicon X will be limited on its colors like the 10A? It seems that some colors just would clash with the red accents that are supposed to be on the X.

4. Any idea when the Rubicon X will be available to order?
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I have been checking my system everyday for rubicon X to show up as an option for ordering, believe me guys I will be making a very excited victory post once my order is placed!
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This just showed up on our lot a few days ago going to be hard to resist the urge to buy it instead of waiting for the X!
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