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Old 07-28-2013, 08:57 PM   #1
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3.6 performance parts?

When will we start seeing headers, intake manifolds, cams for the new 285 horse powerplant? So far all i can find is air cleaners and false dual exhausts, that gives me kind of a ricer vibe about my new 2013 that ive been so proud of so far... Not aiming for anything too crazy, id just like to get some more umph on demand

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Old 07-28-2013, 09:10 PM   #2
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When will we start seeing headers, intake manifolds, cams for the new 285 horse powerplant? So far all i can find is air cleaners and false dual exhausts, that gives me kind of a ricer vibe about my new 2013 that ive been so proud of so far... Not aiming for anything too crazy, id just like to get some more umph on demand
I believe the exhaust manifold is cast into the block. So I don't see how headers can be developed for this engine. I'm watching the RIPP SC at this point. Perhaps AEV will develop one as well. The Hemi and LS V8 options are out of my price range!

Oh yeah - RIPP has a cold air intake for the 3.6. Looks like a 3 HP increase from their dyno video.

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Old 07-28-2013, 09:29 PM   #3
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I didnt know that about the manifolds, thats a shame. I did read that they have great flow anyway. Forced induction is out of my price range, and id rather run a glass pack for cheap than spend 500 bucks on a name brand muffler that wouldnt be much different. The k&n intake tooks decent but ill wait for the price to go down. Id like to see 300 at the crank but im not sure if a muffler and air cleaner is up to that task
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:37 PM   #4
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According to this, all it takes is a more "aggressively designed" air intake system to get up to 305hp at the crank: Dodge Challenger: the 2011-2014 muscle cars

They say that the air intake system is the only difference on the Challenger that gives it a boost in power (probably the whole system, including the intake manifold, so a cold air intake won't give you gains like this).

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Oh yeah - RIPP has a cold air intake for the 3.6. Looks like a 3 HP increase from their dyno video.
That CAI doesn't really do much for peak HP, because its gains are most pronounced in the mid-range, and peak HP happens at redline. They claim 15-20 ft-lbs torque gain in the mid RPM range: JEEP Wrangler KIT 2012 RIPP Cold Air Kit for all snorkels

That actually looks like it might be a noticeable gain. Is it worth the $$$ to you?

I'm saving my money for the supercharger kit
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:52 PM   #5
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I looked, sure enough there is a sinlge exhaust outlet on each side of the engine. Breaks my heart to see things like that, they're making it harder for us to mess around with the vehicle. I would love to see a serious intake manifold and cams designed for the power band that would be practical off road
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I would love to see a serious intake manifold and cams designed for the power band that would be practical off road
What would you want different about the engine's torque curve? It already makes 90% of its peak torque starting at 1800 RPMs and carries it all the way to redline (nearly flat torque curve).

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Old 07-28-2013, 10:33 PM   #7
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I am like the guy above with the ripp. I plan on having one in less than a year.
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Old 07-28-2013, 11:21 PM   #8
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10-15 more pounds starting at or as close to idle as possible. Dont get me wrong, its great as is, im just the stubborn a-hole that just refuses to leave well enough alone. I need to tweak things, make them better.
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The reason they have the exhaust the way the do is that it keeps it open for forced induction.

I'm a GM tech, and back when the new Buick Regal came out, the 3.6 V6 , didnt have exhaust manifolds. They were cast into the cylinder header with a single 4 bolt flange on the side. GMs 3.6 had exhaust manifolds for years prior to this, now they don't.

Now what do they have hanging there... A turbo

By putting the turbo close to the engine, it helps eliminate lag, less exhaust and duct routing, and keeps the heat under the hood for the most part.

Does this mean Jeep is gonna hang a turbo, who knows. But it could mean another Chrysler vehicle will get a turbo, and since this engine is used in different platforms. We're stuck without exhaust manifolds.

And don't even think cams are worth it. This thing is packing 4 of them. Not worth modifying unless you go Forced Induction like RIPP
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:56 AM   #10
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Im so used to the freedoms of an SBC build. Looks like its time to start saving, thanks gents
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I found a ported intake manifold an throttle body. I have purchased these items but something to look into. good luck

3.6L V6 Pentastar Ported Throttle Body

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Old 07-29-2013, 10:52 PM   #12
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Honestly for those prices i could take them local to get machined, definitely food for thought though, glad you showed me that

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